a8n-sli chipset heatsink fan

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P0pinjay

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Well I hooked up my fanmate from my Zalman CPU cooler and at its lowest setting the chipset fan only got to about 3500 rpm...and I didn't notice a terribly large change in the sound output.

As far as temperature is concerned, using Speedfan I was not able to see any change in temperature. When I touched the heatsync, however, I thought it was a bit hotter than when the fan was spinning at stock speed.

Now, I was under the impression that at the lowest setting the fanmate was sposed to stop the fan altogether but I guess this is not the case. I think I will have to elminate my gfx card as a source of sound in order to tell a huge difference with this fanmate solution.
 

Aquila76

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dlw5: Can you fit a second card in there with that skyscraper-esque Chip cooler? I'm running (2 6600GT's) SLI and would prefer not to short out the back of my second card.
 

wspano

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Okay my chipset died too. Then it went about 10 RPM, then spun up and gave me the rattle of doom.

It seems to be here, that the best (and least difficult plan) is to go with a standard 40mm fan, on top of the basic heatsink.

That said, how long can you run without the fan before doing damage?

And, with the way the fan was put into the heat sink was with these three screws. Does the 4:3 screw adapter kit work with that size? Is it standard?

And finally if I do want to take off the stock heatsink, do I need to get at it from the back? (As in take it out of the case?
 

iscsidude

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Originally posted by: dlw5
The ASUS A8N-SLI chipset fan is piece of junk. I replaced it with a Swiftech MCX 159-R (Chipset Cooler). Well made and low noise...

Any chance of a picture?
Not sure how you got the massive Swiftech with a Leadtek 6600GT in the first PCIe slot.
 

cdcushman

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Ill be posting results with the pabst once i get my fan, counting down the days untill i can creatively obliterate the old fan... any suggestions?:evil:
 

wspano

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How long can I run with out a fan on that Heat Sink?

Provided I shut down or Hibernate everytime I leave for more than 10 minutes.
 

Dream Operator

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installed the nbj47 (i think thats the model, anyway). idle temps went down 2 degrees celcius in nvmonitor for system. not sure about the load temp haven't checked. yet, will post soon.

becare whatever you do. i'm the second person i know to loose the secondary IDE after replacement. not sure what happened.

new mobo today. haven't changed yet though
 

Dream Operator

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Originally posted by: T101
Originally posted by: iscsidude
Well, I put a DB meter next to my A8N-SLI rig and unplugged the chipset fan. It went from 54 to 53 Decibels. Not sure if the original fans are louder than the current ones, but one thing I am sure of is that for one DB reduction in noise, it is no longer worth it to me.

In my case it turned out to be the one fan I had neglected to change out from my original Cooler Master Praetorian case. It resides in the back, so I thought it would be insignificant. Wrong and very red faced I disconnected this fan and found the DB level to go from 54 to 50.

Ordered another ThermalTake Smart Fan and will be good to go in a couple of days.

I also installed the Arctic Cooling NV5 which lowered the temp. 53 and DB level 58, to 50 and 54 respectively.

All I can think of is that ASUS changed the heatsink fan somewhere along the line. Asus Probe reports it running at 8KRPM, yet it is not generating any noise to speak of.

Just a small note, you know that decibel is not an incremental scale, but a logaritmic scale? which means an increase of 1 db means there is twice the amount of sound volume.

You are correct that it is logarithmic. However, 1db does not equal twice the amount of sound volume. 10db us most often referred to as perceived doubling of volume (some say 6 or 7, it does change some from person to person).

Don't think a 3db quiter fan will be that different, you would hardly notice the change.
 

Wild1

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Originally posted by: Jimbob
Hi all thought I had to post pics of the mod I performed on my A8N setup. I'm running 2 x XFX 6800GT's in SLI, 2Gig Crucial Ballistix RAM and a 3500+ clocked up to 2.6Ghz. I can't stand PC noise and have managed to get this beast of an SLI system almost completely silent under my desk. I'm using the ultra quiet Tagan 480Watt PSU, Zalman CNPS7700-CU CPU cooler and 2 x Arctic Cooling Rev.4 nVidia 5 VGA Silencers which some people have asked about above. I also use a 120mm 11dba SilenX rear fan.

Anyway like the rest of you replacing the 8800 rpm screamer fan was a must for me! The Arctic Cooling VGA silencers are superb - not only very quiet but they exhaust the hot air via their plastic encasement directly out of the slot next to each graphics card. This is very important because two 6800GT's create way too much ambient case heat that otherwise you'd have to remove with faster louder case fans.

If I replaced the Northbridge fan with a heatsink the first cards cooling unit would be in the way of it... however I realised if I modded the Arctic cooling unit by removing a piece of the plastic encasement directly above the Northbridge I could fit a larger heatsink. This would also be superb for overclocking as the VGA fan would be spinning air directly onto the larger Norbridge Heatsink AS WELL as the 6800GT chipset! Bonus The 47mm high widely available blue Zalman heatsink was too tall however there is a yellow 32mm high Zalman ZM-NB32J - only available in the UK at www.quietpc.com that I could find. The blue Coolermaster PAC-P01 also 32mm high would also do the trick however isn't available in the UK.

Here's some pics:-

Zalman ZM-NB32J Heatsink with Arctic Cooling mod

Inside my case from above

It worked perfectly. As expected due to the fact it's now got a heat source under the fan GPU 1 has risen in temperature slightly. However so has GPU 2 and the CPU slightly. Unfortunately at the same time as the mod I also installed noise dampening material blocking some side venting as well as the slower SilenX rear fan, and I'm sure that has added to the temperatures! However it proves that the mod would probably have even less effect if this is all you're changing. The Northbridge is much cooler anyway! Great for overclocking should you wish to push it harder than I have. Here's temperatures monitored through Nvidia drivers and Asus Probe before and after the changes over many days, room temp ranging 20.5-22 degrees:

Before

Average in Windows/Idle
CPU 30
Northbridge 32
GPU1 43
GPU2 38

Highest recorded (Just after playing Halflife 2 and Call of Duty sometimes for 3-4 hours.)
CPU 45
Northbridge 44
GPU1 54
GPU2 45

After

Average in Windows/Idle
CPU 31
Northbridge 28
GPU1 51
GPU2 43

Highest recorded
CPU 45
Northbridge 39
GPU1 66
GPU2 50

Taking the VGA silencer apart was very easy - you can remove the large front plastic cover and hacksaw the exact piece of plastic away before screwing it back onto the back piece of plastic and then re-installing the unit onto the card.

Hope it helps someone.

Jimbob

Has anyone else tried this solution? I will be using an AC NV Silencer 5 for my 6800GT. Is there a preferred solution for quiteting the noisy chipset fan that will work with the Silencer5? Instead of using the Zalman NB32J, will the 40cm (10cm wide) fan fit under the Silencer with the orig heatsink? Gotta get this noise under control! Its LOUD, especially when I have SilenX fans everywhere else.
 

Leo777

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hi

im another victim of the asus chipset fan "noise maker"... after reading this thread,
i have the following questions which are based on the approach that i dont want
to de-assemble the comp simply because i might not be able to ... that means i
dont look for the "nbj47 de-assemble the mobo" solution but for a "simple exchange
the fan possible also for newbies"... what i understood is, that the papst 40mm is
favored by some people like
- TheNiceGuy
- induveca
- esromneb
- cdcushman

it looks like the first two of them already got their new solutions running so i would
like to ask WHAT EXACLTY (step by step) has a tech noob like me to do...
- what parts do we need to order (papst fan, adaptor 3/4 ?, screws?, ...)
- what i have to do "step by step"
- any security issues = what is to check after installations?

i know it is asked a lot but im sure the community would highly appreciate the effort
to answer these questions helping lots of people siiting with their nice asus mobo and
a screaming 8k demon fan ...

thx a lot in advance!!!

leo
 

imported_CW

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I support what Leo777 asked.

I'm also planning to buy a Papst 412, but is there something special to be done or it's just to unscrew the Asus chipset fan ?
 

Leo777

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@ innamoramento: even if that looks a rather expensive solution - what did you have to do to put it on the motherboard? do you have to de-assemble the heatsink of the original chipset-fan or do you put the swiftech just on top of the whole fan (makes no sense?) or the orginal heatsink after getting rid of the original fan part? i would appreciate your feedback what you actually did ... leo

p.s.: i just brwosed the swifttech and i guess you have to "touch" the mobo for that ...
 

transman666

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Hello

I installed the papst fan a few days ago. I' m a newbie but found it very easy. Other than the fan itself all you need are 4 screws. I'm not sure of the exact specifications but number 3 or 4 screws with length of half inch to three quaters should do the trick. The steps I took were

1. Remove 4 screws from front plate on motherboard fan. Note how these screws fit into the grooves of the chipset heatsink as this is where the new screws will be going.

2. Once plate has been removed you should see pos stock fan. Rotate it to see 3 screws beneath fan blades. Disconnect power wire and remove these screws to get rid of fan.

3 Get new vantec fan and attach (the right way around) in same way as front plate using screws you bought. About half an inch extra clearance is needed directly above the chipset. The papst fan is powered by linking in to 4 pin cable from power supply.

End result is my computer makes almost no noise now. The temperature climbs a bit quicker than it used to when first switched on but settles at a temperature on average 2 degress lower.

Hope this helps
 

imported_Jimbob

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Originally posted by: Wild1
Has anyone else tried this solution? I will be using an AC NV Silencer 5 for my 6800GT. Is there a preferred solution for quiteting the noisy chipset fan that will work with the Silencer5? Instead of using the Zalman NB32J, will the 40cm (10cm wide) fan fit under the Silencer with the orig heatsink? Gotta get this noise under control! Its LOUD, especially when I have SilenX fans everywhere else.

There is "just" enough room to fit an NV 5 Silencer over the heatsink/fan that comes with the mobo. The plastic is about 1mm away from the top of it!

So you only have 2 options: mod the NV 5 like I did and replace with a larger heatsink or fan no more than 32mm high - or replace it with a quieter heatsink/fan that is no higher than the original (1cm).

... or use a different VGA cooler!
 

Leo777

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@transman: thx a lot . i think, thats what i/we look for... but right now i have at elast 2 more questions:
1. is the fan you got the same like posted here before? citation from page 6...

" Hey guys, been following this thread for a while.
Found a fan which works GREAT, and also even dug through the crates at home depot to find screws which would easily screw onto the existing heatsink through the new fan.
I hope this saves you guys a lot of time. Note however, the fan is a 4 pin fan........so if you want to plug it into the Northbridge fan slot you'll need a 4 pin to 3 pin connector. I just plugged it into a 4 prong.
This fan has an RPM of 4300, and is only 19 DBA! It's also made by a GREAT company, Papst. My northbridge temps idle at 32-34 C and it's completely quiet!
I bought the fan for about 16 bucks here:
(NOTE: Remove the current fan, it's simple and temps are lower without leaving it in there.)
http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/40mmpapst.html "

-> yes i have the question about "you'll need a 4 pin to 3 pin connector"... did you need any kind of an adaptor? what is the problem in here? do you understand that issue?

2. you wrote "3.Get new vantec fan and attach (the right way around) in same way as front plate using screws you bought. About half an inch extra clearance is needed directly above the chipset. The papst fan is powered..."

-> so did you gor a new vantec fan or/and a new papst fan? sorry, here you can see that im a complete newbie if it comes to mobos .... may be you have a product link what you bought ...

oki, thats it for now but i THANK you a lot... that looks like the needed solution!!

leo
 

transman666

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1. is the fan you got the same like posted here before?

http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/40mmpapst.html "

-> Yes. I ordered from those guys as well.

2. yes i have the question about "you'll need a 4 pin to 3 pin connector"... did you need any kind of an adaptor? what is the problem in here? do you understand that issue?

-> You can link it in to a 4-pin plug from the power supply like what I did. It works fine this way but if you want to plug it directly into the motherboard you need a 4-pin to 3-pin adaptor. The only issue I see arising from connecting directly to the power suply is you cannot monitor the fan speed although wether this would be possible if you connected directly to the motherboard I cannot say for sure. Was hoping to see for myself but accidentally got a 3-pin to 4-pin adaptor.

3. you wrote "3.Get new vantec fan and attach (the right way around) in same way as front plate using screws you bought. About half an inch extra clearance is needed directly above the chipset. The papst fan is powered..."

so did you gor a new vantec fan or/and a new papst fan?

-> Apologies. I meant to say Papst.
 

cdcushman

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hey thanks guys, mine should be in the mail today, will still post my experience, I can't wait! If i remember right i got the connector, although i wouldnt put it past me either to have ordered the 3to4 accidently, sounds like something i would do, so well see...

Thinking about it though, the rpms on that fan are low enough to not really need to control/monitor the fan speed, maybe i'll hook it into my case fan speed control function and take some temp readings, but that will be down the road, and somewhat unnecessary if this fan is as quiet as i think its going to be.
 

Innamoramento

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Originally posted by: Leo777
@ innamoramento: even if that looks a rather expensive solution - what did you have to do to put it on the motherboard? do you have to de-assemble the heatsink of the original chipset-fan or do you put the swiftech just on top of the whole fan (makes no sense?) or the orginal heatsink after getting rid of the original fan part? i would appreciate your feedback what you actually did ... leo

p.s.: i just brwosed the swifttech and i guess you have to "touch" the mobo for that ...


Yes... I had to take everything out of the case... The asus fan comes off when you squeeze those pins with some pliers on the back of the board. The pins just pop out.. And you can insert them back later if you want... Temps are about 27-28 when idle and 34-36 when running something..
Yes it was more expensive than the Zalman solution but I figured that I can use in some future boards so I guess it ok.
 

Leo777

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@transman: excellent information - thx a lot!!!... im sure many people will go for that solution, including myself ...

@cdcushman: sure, pl let us know, how the things turned out with your system.. as soon i will get the papst, i post it too... unfortunately over here (switzerland) the shipping is rather expensive so i need to find a shop tomorrow which will order it for me...

stay tuned...

leo
 

Dream Operator

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Yes... I had to take everything out of the case... The asus fan comes off when you squeeze those pins with some pliers on the back of the board. The pins just pop out.. And you can insert them back later if you want... Temps are about 27-28 when idle and 34-36 when running something..
Yes it was more expensive than the Zalman solution but I figured that I can use in some future boards so I guess it ok.[/quote]

The pins just pop out? This has been the most difficult part for me. I'm doing it on board #2 now, not fun. The trouble is that they won't "pop" out. Using needle nose pliers and all.

Edit - Ah Ha! Maybe this is news to only me, but I can't beleive it hasn't been mentioned. The trick to removing the pins is to push them in first, then squeeze, then they should pop. Call me a noob, but this should have been the first post by the first person to remove the fan.

Happy modding
 

sxr7171

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Originally posted by: Dream Operator


Yes... I had to take everything out of the case... The asus fan comes off when you squeeze those pins with some pliers on the back of the board. The pins just pop out.. And you can insert them back later if you want... Temps are about 27-28 when idle and 34-36 when running something..
Yes it was more expensive than the Zalman solution but I figured that I can use in some future boards so I guess it ok.

The pins just pop out? This has been the most difficult part for me. I'm doing it on board #2 now, not fun. The trouble is that they won't "pop" out. Using needle nose pliers and all.

Edit - Ah Ha! Maybe this is news to only me, but I can't beleive it hasn't been mentioned. The trick to removing the pins is to push them in first, then squeeze, then they should pop. Call me a noob, but this should have been the first post by the first person to remove the fan.

Happy modding [/quote]



Yeah it was a nightmare to get those out. To make it worse I went back in to reorient the HS and I put it back in the wrong orientation 3 times out of stupidity before I did it right. Doh!
 
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