AAAAAAAAAACK!!! That Broad Is Pregnant!!!!!

[snakesnfrogs]

the best thing that could happen is if she died during childbirth---that's asssuming she is pregnant. A fitting demise, I think.

 

[SuperSix]

<< did you know that when you give birth, there is a possibility that there can be a chemical imbalance??? it is not a certainty so there is no way of knowing who will get it or if they will get it at every birth.

this lady's next baby could not cause her depression. therefore she will be able to raise the child without problems.

let me ask you this, should we kill every baby who's mother has post pardum depression??? >>



You're kidding right?

Thousands if not millions of women worldwide suffer from post-partum, and don't MASS MURDER their children. She committed COLD-BLOODED, PRE-MEDITATED MURDER, yet you somehow defend it. You make me sick.

My take? Let her have the child, place the child with a loving family, and slowly.. VERY slowly, execute her..

 

[Aihyah]

btw, there are different levels of post partum depression, only a small percentage are psychotic. You can't make a blanket statement like that. if all the conditions are right, psychotic break isn't out of the question.

 

[wolf550e]

she does not deserve a second chance. she should have the kid, and it should be raised by someone lese. hopefully her condition is not transferable to her kids.
she should not be allowed to have more kids, and robably should be ina mental hospital, or if she's not crazy enough in jail.

 

[GrimmX]

People like to call mass murderers crazy. The fact is they're usualy sane. A violent killer is slightly less likely to be insane. Us norms don't want to think that people like us would do something like this, the fact is you don't know who is going to murder and they are like you (in that they're not slobbering maniacs.) And please, religion has nothing to do with her crime. Don't blame religion, don't blame the husband, don't blame depression, don't blame society, SHE IS THE KILLER.


Not to start a flame or anything but is it a bunch of women defending her?
I'm honestly curious.

 

[Sciolist]

Reliable reports say the woman is NOT pregnant. They needed to give her medication, and it is standard procedure to administer a pregnancy test first. Although results aren't officially released for a few days, the results are read immediately, and it was leaked by someone who saw the results that she is not pregnant.

Somebody assumed that because she was given a pregnancy test, she might be pregnant, started the rumor that she was, and well, it gets perpetuated on forums like this!

 

[Antisocial Virge]

<< supportive mother and had not abused the children >>

yep..thats true. Right up to the point when she killed them :disgust:. Wha Wha she has depression. So does half the country but you don't see them doing this. If she had straped them all in a car and drove it and herself into the river it would have made more sence. Instead she killed them one at a time and even dragged one back. She then proceeded to call her husband and the police so she apparently knew she did something wrong. Fry her and move on.

 

[tm37]

<< btw, there are different levels of post partum depression, only a small percentage are psychotic. You can't make a blanket statement like that. if all the conditions are right, psychotic break isn't out of the question. >>



You are right on BUT it still does not excuse her from what she did.

By giving her an excuse you justify her actions, while not condoning it you accept it. It is her fault, Her ACTIONS caused the death of five children. FIVE little ones that laughed played and had their whole life in front of them. I told my wife if she had done that I would be the only one in jail. She would be in a box.

I do understand the phycological problems people deal with. I also believe that by excusing her actions allows her to do it again. You should be judged by you ACTIONS, and hers were horrific.

You will never in my mind justify her actions in my book. People with that many problems should be helped, but what if they are beyond help? At some point a person is guilty for their ACTIONS and not their mental state. She should not be allowed to raise that child. It would be best that this child NEVER KNOW who it's parents are. I Hope that compasion doesn't ruin this child's life as well. This woman KILLED five children. You can say all you want about mental state and depression. Those five children are still DEAD. Allowing her another chance would be a travisty!

 

[kyutip]

jeez, I can't believe 90% of this thread put all the blame on the mother (except aihyah).
where the hell the baby came from ? she can't make it by her self, can she ?
if you think about it, it's the husband who think with his wiener that cause all this.
Come one, how many children in how many years ?
If I were his wife, I'd chopped off his wee wee a long time ago.
inconsiderate sob !
And right now knowing her wife problem, he made her pregnant again ?
I said castrate the guy and throw him in jail with some horny cellmate.
and for some of you ignorant jerk, I hope you all get some sickness that nobody will believe.
that will teach you some lesson.

 

[Aihyah]

the point is, if someone has a mental illness, you don't slam them into prison. you put them into a mental institution. she was apparently a high achieving loving person before she started having children. its not like she was in perfect mental health and suddenly an idea popped into her head.. gee wouldn't it be nice if i killed all my kids slowly one by one? get off your high horse..

as for don't blame religion, if their religious beliefs prevented rational family planning that contributed to the disaster... well yes, it takes some blame.


i think it was .02% of post partum depression cases were psychotic. numbers help don't they


righteous indignation.. gotta love it

 

[Aihyah]

if she does recover mentally, she'll face more torture then anything you could dish out. and for those of you that are religious and talked about roasting her... so little faith.

 

[GrimmX]

It is amazing to my Aiyah that you would blame her husband in your posts (yes I know religion and depression as well.) I don't hope she dies painfully or anything like that but she is responsible for the death of her children and if she does recover and is a rational thinking person when she does she shouldn't feel responsible enough to raise another child. Think about it. If you were responsible for the death of your children would you take the chance on one more dying because you relaps? As for chopping off weiners, she did not have to have sex with him, She didn't have to stay married to him, she could have use birth control without him knowing, women have been doing this since recorded history.

 

[GrimmX]

There is a possibility that she thought having another baby would cheer her up. We'll probably never know. Oh and Aihyah, I didn't mean to mispell your name.

 

[Aihyah]

amazing? a guy that should know his wifes mental health is deteriorating yet fathers 5 children in 7 years? he bears some responsibility. btw, did i say she should walk free? ....i didn't think so, i'm just disturbed by the knee jerk reactionism here.

btw just a guess, i don't think ppl with post partum would think that another child would solve their problems. 5 children.. yelling screaming, needing to be taken care of all the time,.. endless cycles of sleepless nites taking care of yet another infant....

 

[GrimmX]

No you didn't say she should go free, but you did say that she shouldn't be in jail, but in a mental institution. I don't think insanity pleas should work, why? Because even if you are insane you are responsible. Too many people are not responsible for their actions. The devil made me do it, a chemical imbalance made me do it, I reached down and felt something, it was a knife and suddenly she was stabbed and it wasn't my falt. Sometimes people just have to be responsible for their actions. Like when they kill people. Don't get me wrong it's not just for the girls, I think guys should pay for their actions to. I'm glad McVeigh had to pay the piper and I think this house wife should pay for her crimes as well.

 

[jcuadrado]

she should be drowned 5 times...

 

[kyutip]

puhlease. so everything has to be woman responsibility ?
if their husband is am inconsiderate jerk then there is nothing he can do about it ?
It is really convenient isn't it. guys always never held accountable for this sort of things.
it is always the women that takes the fall.
do you think with her state of mind she can prevent all this thing that happening to her ?
how hard is it to use condom ?????????????
It is really bad that things happen this way, I did not condone what she has done.
but to put the blame solely on her shoulder is ignorance.

 

[GrimmX]

Kyutip
if it was the husband that had killed the kids would you say Oh the woman is partly responsible she kept having these babies, he was depressed. No I doubt it. Husbands are largely blamed for anything that goes wrong. If a woman does something wrong it isn't the husbands fault. This should be obvious to everyone. Sure maybe he made some mistakes But he didn't drowned his own children dragging them kicking and screaming to a most terrifying end! She still has free will she did this herself.

 

[obiwaynekenobi]

<< Yeah, I think Child Protective Service will be waiting in the delivery room. >>



along with the police to slap cuffs on her

&quot;I don't care if your bleeding, and have no clothes on and covered in your own sh1t. your going to jail.&quot;

 

[bigd480]

<< did you know that when you give birth, there is a possibility that there can be a chemical imbalance??? >>

that's great... many ppl are chemically imbalanced... hell my g/f is once a month... she doesn't kill ppl... neither do 99.999999% of the other billion women that have children...

<< let me ask you this, should we kill every baby who's mother has post pardum depression??? >>

no we should kill every mother who kills their babies...

 

[bigd480]

<< Thousands if not millions of women worldwide suffer from post-partum, and don't MASS MURDER their children. She committed COLD-BLOODED, PRE-MEDITATED MURDER, yet you somehow defend it. You make me sick.

My take? Let her have the child, place the child with a loving family, and slowly.. VERY slowly, execute her.. >>

couldn't have said it better myself

BigD <~~ glad he lives in TX

 

[Sundog]

<< it was not her fault. >>



I have seen that statement more than once in this thread. What a load of crap!!

 

[Optimus]

I think it makes us all feel safer to say &quot;It wasn't her fault - it was chemical, it was the husband, it was society, it was religion...&quot;. I fear the truth we can't accept is that, while there were several circumstances that were causing difficulty in her life, in the end it was her that drowned 5 small, innocent children.

I don't think we as a society can accept that. I don't think we can believe in evil.

It must have been video games, rap music, bullies.

It was post-traumatic stress disorder.

Road Rage.


It wasn't that person's fault.

We need a reason.




Alaiyah: Your attempts to pin this on Christianity are disgusting. The couple having all those children was thier own choice, not that of a religion. Christianity doesn't forbid birth control. Even Catholics like me, who only practice natural family planning, would have no reason other than personal choice to have all those kids. We use NFP and have spaced our children perfectly so far. While NFP is not perfect (no birth control is), it does not = 5 kids in 7 years.

And I know families that have willingly had that many, and more kids. They love them, care for them, and are happy. Not one murder. Geez, kinda flies in the face of blaming this on Christianity, huh?

 

[Bozo Galora]

right on, well said

 

[loosbrew]

im not here to dispute anyopnes opinions nor am i here to stir stuff up...

but i thought that christianity did all forms of oppose birth control? did they &quot;ammend&quot; any &quot;rules&quot;. again im not agrueing, i just dont know!

it is very possible for a woman to develop chemical imbalances after and during pregnancy. i know because i live with it everyday.

it is very possible that the children of the parents of that same imbalances when they get older. again, i deal with it daily.

just some thoughts of mine...