you get em dulanic, dont let em bad mouth the best, look at all the other threads,my epox wont go above 132mhz, my iwill wont give me lower multiplyers, my msi wont boot except at stock settings, my abit raid sucks. these are the only weaknesses of the a7v133, promise raid is lite raid, this can be easily fixed with cbrom extracting r100b24.bin then adding ft100130.bin then flashing modded bios. then you have sripe mirror and span any stripe size you want.weakness number 2 vcore resets to default, all you have to do is pencil in one L7 bridge on the tbird and the duron to max the vcore 1.85, this will now be default.it also gives higher vi/o settings than most for high fsb, this may make the difference with your ram.it only likes the sblive in slot #3.some people were having difculties with geforce and agpx4. this has been fixed in the new bioses. and for the record toms hardwareguide shoot out a7v133 came out on top, of the pack on every bench, now how the hell did it do that with such a weak voltage regulator. huh!to tell youn the truth, i almost got board with the review with a7v133 being at the top all the time ,by some good margines, ohh except mecedes benz truck racing.