Accident!! 3570k not stable anymore!!

Ahmoody

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Hi folks,My last PC was in 2005, I got a new rig here are the specs:

3570K
Asus p8z77-v
7950 OC 3GB
Hyper T4 Cooler
Hyper X Kingston Ram 1600 Mhz
Gigabyte PSU 720W

I overclocked my processor to 4.4 ghz @ 1.23V it was stable for 8 hour max Temp 75C using prime95 blend test , so I decided to lower the voltage more to 1.21V then 1.19V but ACCIDENTALLY I Input in the bios 1.9V and restarted the pc but got a bios error that voltage and temps are so high so I adjusted the voltage and restarted the PC to find that the PC isn't stable so I pumped the voltage up again to 1.21 and then to 1.23 but no use(Although it was stable before) and kept rising it to 1.30 and also not stable(Under full load but windows boots normally) WTH is going wrong did my chip fail? is something wrong how can the system be stable before at 1.21 and now its not even stable at 1.3? PLEASE HELP, Its so sad to buy a new rig and finding this to happen!!

note: tried flashing bios again useless
 

Centauri

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Misery loves company; For a few moments last night, I had my NB voltage over 1.5v while screwing around with IGP clock speeds.

Nothing but problems since. Settings that were stable before are worthless now. Still haven't figured out a way around it. What's worse is that things seem to actually be deteriorating, as I'm having to lower voltages and clock speeds further in order to maintain in-game stability.
 

Ahmoody

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sorry to hear that, im really depressed saved alot of money for this now I dont know what to do!!
 

Centauri

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I hear ya man. On the upside, I'd rather frag the CPU myself than have an electrical issue beyond my control frag everything. At least be happy your data survived, along with your motherboard (in all likelihood), your RAM and your Radeon (almost certainly).
 

Centauri

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Obvious question; have you tried going back to default with ALL of your CPU settings in the BIOS?
 

BallaTheFeared

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Buy the overclocking protection plan, would be my first suggestion.

Edit: Link http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/

i5 is $20, if you kill it overclocking, they'll replace it once.

Most likely you cause some degradation at an accelerated rate which you won't be able to undo.


1.9v is a suicide run at -180C, imagine what your processor feels like after doing it on air >.<
 
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Idontcare

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Buy the overclocking protection plan, would be my first suggestion.

Edit: Link http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/

i5 is $20, if you kill it overclocking, they'll replace it once.

Most likely you cause some degradation at an accelerated rate which you won't be able to undo.


1.9v is a suicide run at -180C, imagine what your processor feels like after doing it on air >.<


Doesn't help him now, he's already fried his CPU.

Unless you were implying he should buy it and then make a fraudulent claim against it...which of course would be fraud and he and you can both to jail for that sort of thing (not to mention that is a bannable offense around here).

OP - the overclocking protection plan is good advice but you must buy it in advance of f'cking up your processor. Warranty fraud raises costs for everyone else, don't be that guy.

...but ACCIDENTALLY I Input in the bios 1.9V and restarted the pc but got a bios error that voltage and temps are so high...

Sorry to hear that, but yeah that's "kill your processor" type voltage and it sounds like that is exactly what has happened.

As for what to do now, consider it a lesson in life and buy a replacement. Consider buying the performance tuning plan with the new CPU as well.

Don't make one disaster become an even bigger one by doing something drastic at this point like trying to scam for an RMA or a fraudulant warranty claim.
 
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Whatever you do don't rma that chip and get a free new one.
Warranties are not to be trifled with.
 
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squirrel dog

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what happens when you set everything to default ? I would not think over volting for a second or two would ruin your cpu .
 

zebrax2

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Do motherboards not have extra protection for voltages that high like say an extra prompt confirming the setting?
 

UNhooked

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This might work. Re-flash the mobo bios and set everything to default and run it that way for a few days
 
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Do motherboards not have extra protection for voltages that high like say an extra prompt confirming the setting?

Nope.

At a certain level of complexity, the computer assumes that if you're here, you know what you're doing and it will do what you tell it to.

See also: sudo rm -stuffyoushouldn'ttype.
 

blckgrffn

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It's the danger inherent to overclocking.

I don't OC to the point where more voltage (manual configuration) is needed anymore. Fast enough is fast enough for me.

Friends of mine who want to do it I just advise to try the auto OC feature most nice motherboards have these days. Probably too much voltage used there too - but not kill your CPU on post voltage either.

Sounds like you might need to limp on a $40 celeron for a bit. It could be much, much worse as others have pointed out. And Celerons suck much less than they used to as well...
 

Rvenger

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Call Intel and request an RMA, explain that you accidently applied too much voltage to the chip. Sometimes they will do a good will RMA and maybe just charge you a small service fee to get a replacement chip. Doesn't hurt to try. AMD did so to me when I mounted my HSF incorrectly and fried my Athlon XP.
 

Tsavo

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Unless you were implying he should buy it and then make a fraudulent claim against it...which of course would be fraud and he and you can both to jail for that sort of thing .

Warranty fraud raises costs for everyone else, don't be that guy.

LMAO. Man gets 30 years for warranty fraud, news at 11. But, you are right. warranty fraud raises the cost for everyone. I'll shave a few atoms off of a penny...that should just about cover what I paid for everyone rooking Intel blind on K warranty claims. :hmm:
 

Geforce man

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You might have to settle with stock speeds, or a much lower OC. At this point I wouldn't put anything past 1.2v into your chip, as its most likely already sustained some damage.
 

tweakboy

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Firstly do a BIOS upgrade if you have to.

Take out the battery and move the pin.. look in mobo book for this.
Then put back battery and move dip back to where it was originally. This should reset everything and you should get in the BIOS to fix that accident. gl
 

BallaTheFeared

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Doesn't help him now, he's already fried his CPU.

Unless you were implying he should buy it and then make a fraudulent claim against it...which of course would be fraud and he and you can both to jail for that sort of thing (not to mention that is a bannable offense around here).

I was under the impression the processor still worked, just not at previously stable overclock voltages.

Or do we need to purchase the protection plan prior to using/overclocking? I mean clearly this is in the gray, if it works but you've caused some extreme degradation... Maybe ask what Intel thinks, just don't lie they've heard it all and the truth will probably have more merit than anything else.
 
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Idontcare

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I was under the impression the processor still worked, just not at previously stable overclock voltages.

Or do we need to purchase the protection plan prior to using/overclocking? I mean clearly this is in the gray, if it works but you've caused some extreme degradation... Maybe ask what Intel thinks, just don't lie they've heard it all and the truth will probably have more merit than anything else.

What is "in the gray" about this?

Do you buy car insurance after you've rear-ended someone because you then want to file a claim on the accident that occurred prior to you getting the insurance?

As soon as he over-volted or over-clocked he voided his warranty. There is no gray about it.
 

BallaTheFeared

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The part where I assumed it still worked since it was going through post.

I think the gray area is the part where I don't see anything indicating that plans for overclocking failure can't be purchased after overclocking has already taken place.

The Plan provides a one-time replacement: (i) only applicable to the replacement of Eligible Processors (defined below) and (ii) only when the Plan is purchased within one (1) year of the purchase of the Eligible Processor. The Plan may only be purchased from the Plan website

Replacement Eligibility: No Eligible Processor replacements will be allowed within the first 30-day period after purchase of the Plan.

Is it there?

http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/Terms.aspx

I didn't see anything that indicates you can't get it after overclocking (even if nothing happens). That's not to say it isn't there, only that I couldn't see it.

Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer! Best idea would be to contact Intel and see what, if any options you have available to you.
 

FalseChristian

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I agree that he could tell Intel the truth about what happened and maybe they'll replace it-ONCE! Just tell the whole truth. If they don't buy another one and overclock it to 4.5GHz
using 'AUTO" settings. I have my i5 2500K at 4.5GHz with everything on 'AUTO" and it only uses 1.275v at no-load and a max of 1.32v at 100% usage.

Good luck to you.
 

Idontcare

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The part where I assumed it still worked since it was going through post.

I think the gray area is the part where I don't see anything indicating that plans for overclocking failure can't be purchased after overclocking has already taken place.

Is it there?

http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/Terms.aspx

I didn't see anything that indicates you can't get it after overclocking (even if nothing happens). That's not to say it isn't there, only that I couldn't see it.

Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer! Best idea would be to contact Intel and see what, if any options you have available to you.

Wow! I just read through it like you did, as well as the FAQ, and you are totally right!

There are absolutely no limitations implied or applied to the case wherein the processor was overclocked (incurring damage or not) prior to the purchase of the performance tuning plan.

It definitely appears to be completely acceptable and not fraud for the OP to go ahead and purchase a plan today, wait the required 30-day minimum, and then file a claim regarding the voltage-induced degradation of his processor.

That is either one heck of an oversight by Intel or an intentional loop-hole built into the plan to be as accommodating as possible to enthusiasts.

Either way the OP should definitely look into it. $20 for the plan plus shipping to return his damaged processor and he could have a new 3570k to play with.
 
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