Accident!! 3570k not stable anymore!!

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Ahmoody

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Guys first I'm not as lucky as you I don't live in the USA I live in UAE so I don't think I'll be able to return the CPU although I'll call the guy I bought the cpu from and ask for an exchange what's annoying me is the processor is stable at 4.3 at 1.21V but past 4.3 is annoyingly unstable at least 1.32 is needed for 4.4 ghz (Although I need only 1.23V before this incident) what I want to know is could the cpu be damaged in a matter of like 5-10 seconds and the temprature in the bios read 84C ??
 

UNhooked

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....passing 1.9V even for a few seconds tends to do that. I would run the chip at stock for a few days and check for stability.

I also think your cpu socket may have sustained some damage.
 

BrightCandle

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You are very lucky to have a working CPU and socket at all. That voltage could have instantly popped both your CPU and motherboard and any other components. Be thankful that appears you did no real damage to your PC beyond limiting the over clock.
 

Idontcare

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Guys first I'm not as lucky as you I don't live in the USA I live in UAE so I don't think I'll be able to return the CPU although I'll call the guy I bought the cpu from and ask for an exchange what's annoying me is the processor is stable at 4.3 at 1.21V but past 4.3 is annoyingly unstable at least 1.32 is needed for 4.4 ghz (Although I need only 1.23V before this incident) what I want to know is could the cpu be damaged in a matter of like 5-10 seconds and the temprature in the bios read 84C ??

The message I get when crashing is CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT any ideas??

Yeah you definitely stressed those tiny transistors and wires with the 1.9V.

You should check into the tuning plan, seriously, as Balla said. You might not have to send to the USA for your return. I bet Intel has a local UAE office that they accept RMA's at.
 

Ahmoody

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There is something I would like to add I've noticed when adjusting the voltage in the bios; the voltage values have colors, before the mistake I did(of setting the value to 1.9) when i enter 1.23V the color was YELLOW, which matches a table in the user manual of the motherboard, to simplify what I mean is that the manual states that the range 0.8-1.22 will be displayed in BLACK, 1.225-1.280 is in YELLOW, 1.285-1.335 is in PINK, and finally from 1.340-1.990 is in RED.
So now when I key in 1.23V it is in PINK instead of YELLOW, any ideas about the color thing??
 

SetiroN

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That is either one heck of an oversight by Intel or an intentional loop-hole built into the plan to be as accommodating as possible to enthusiasts.

Or simply covers the production and handling cost of the CPU for Intel.
Warranty "fraud" doesn't mean hustling a company for £300, you're just getting a replacement you shouldn't be entitled to, amounting for a whopping £10-20.

Not very honest? Sure, but it certainly doesn't warrant your OMG CRIMINAL!! reaction.
 

Idontcare

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Or simply covers the production and handling cost of the CPU for Intel.
Warranty "fraud" doesn't mean hustling a company for £300, you're just getting a replacement you shouldn't be entitled to, amounting for a whopping £10-20.

Not very honest? Sure, but it certainly doesn't warrant your OMG CRIMINAL!! reaction.

I don't take kindly to thievery. This isn't about honesty, it is about theft.

You can tell a lie (be dishonest) and not cost your neighbor a penny, but you cannot steal from your neighbor's supplier without raising your neighbor's costs of buying goods.

If all you got out of my post was that I posted an "OMG CRIMINAL!!" reaction then that tells me more about you than you probably know about me.

For example I can guess what you would do if you found £10-20 left on a table at a restaurant (pocket it, it's just £10-20 after all, not very honest, sure, but certainly not criminal as you would put it in your own words).
 

BrightCandle

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I agree with IDC. I see a lot of warranty white collar fraud discussed here and it should never be encrouraged. Tell the manufacturer what you did and deal with the consequences. Because if you get caught defrauding them, and you could, the authorities may very well consider it seriously and that could end up much worse. You can get away with it but you are raising the price of those components for everybody with your dishonesty and that isn't right.

There was a guy on the Watercooling uk forums who broke his cards with leaking water who in the end sent the card back with the original cooler and just told them it broke randomly. Someone on the forums reported him, the fraud squad got the details of who he was from WCUK and successfully prosecuted him for the fraud. The company did send him a replacement long before it caught up with him but it wasn't worth it.
 

SetiroN

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I don't take kindly to thievery. This isn't about honesty, it is about theft.

You can tell a lie (be dishonest) and not cost your neighbor a penny, but you cannot steal from your neighbor's supplier without raising your neighbor's costs of buying goods.

If all you got out of my post was that I posted an "OMG CRIMINAL!!" reaction then that tells me more about you than you probably know about me.

For example I can guess what you would do if you found £10-20 left on a table at a restaurant (pocket it, it's just £10-20 after all, not very honest, sure, but certainly not criminal as you would put it in your own words).
Just like before, you tend to swiftly jump to conclusions.
The OMG CRIMINAL! bit was obviously a silly exaggeration to quickly make a point: I'm not endorsing warranty fraud, just trying to put things into perspective. OP was being honest and straightforward: the idea of purchasing the protection plan is good and morally right, so I don't think he deserved such a strong reaction because what many people don't realise is that the mere production and handling cost of a modern CPU is very low. He wouldn't be stealing a costly CPU (which has to absorb the high R&D costs that he had paid for the first time), just getting another piece of silicon.

I wholeheartedly agree with you about thievery, and getting a replacement you're not entitled to IS wrong, I'm sorry if I gave out the impression of thinking otherwise, but it has to be put into perspective, that is all. Stealing a £10 replacement (which the company has largely already accounted for) is OBVIOUSLY wrong, but it's not as wrong as actually stealing a £300 CPU.
Saying that doesn't make me a CPU thief and you shouldn't assume that I am, let alone that I would be pocketing the same amount of money out of a restaurant table - which is an entirely different matter anyway, something I would punch a face for.

There are many degrees of wrong. OP was in the right, Intel agrees and I pointed out your overreaction: nothing against you or your moral character, just sayin' things should be judged for what they are.
 
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jihe

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Why don't you try to run it at stock?

Hi folks,My last PC was in 2005, I got a new rig here are the specs:

3570K
Asus p8z77-v
7950 OC 3GB
Hyper T4 Cooler
Hyper X Kingston Ram 1600 Mhz
Gigabyte PSU 720W

I overclocked my processor to 4.4 ghz @ 1.23V it was stable for 8 hour max Temp 75C using prime95 blend test , so I decided to lower the voltage more to 1.21V then 1.19V but ACCIDENTALLY I Input in the bios 1.9V and restarted the pc but got a bios error that voltage and temps are so high so I adjusted the voltage and restarted the PC to find that the PC isn't stable so I pumped the voltage up again to 1.21 and then to 1.23 but no use(Although it was stable before) and kept rising it to 1.30 and also not stable(Under full load but windows boots normally) WTH is going wrong did my chip fail? is something wrong how can the system be stable before at 1.21 and now its not even stable at 1.3? PLEASE HELP, Its so sad to buy a new rig and finding this to happen!!

note: tried flashing bios again useless
 

Ahmoody

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Mar 28, 2013
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So I found the solution of my problem, well not a solution but the cause, I've confirmed that it's the CPU, I'm saying this so everybody else can benefit from a situation like this, I went to the guy I bought the PC from, but unlike USA or Others, here in UAE they test first then they replace the cpu, I don't know if they're going to replace it or no because it's working perfectly fine at stock speeds, they gave me a substitute 3570k until they decide whether to replace it or not, its working fine and ABOUT THAT COLOR THING, in the motherboard I mention it's back to normal now with the substitute cpu. Hope this experience will help anyone who's trying to attempt something foolish even by mistake
 
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