Active shooter at Florida State

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Muse

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PSA: there are 400 million other firearms out there not being used in this manner. Ignore that fact and continue not preparing yourself for the fascism you see around you. Totally not an own-goal in the making.

If you actually believe that fascism is here and we're in the midst of a constitutional crisis, then why haven't you gone out and purchased a firearm? Are you waiting for the fascists to take away that right before lamenting on how they're taking away our freedoms one by one by one? Are you not concerned about what happens when YOU are not allowed to own a firearm?

The curse of Cassandra is real.

You can be peaceful without being harmless.
I do not equate my freedom with my ability to buy an object the purpose of which is to kill or threaten people or animals with severe injury or painful death.
 

Muse

Lifer
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Self-harm is certainly a legitimate reason. However, in addition to trigger locks, every firearm I've purchased has also come with a lock that goes through the action in such a way as make an accidental shooting impossible (the result of California legislation, as I understand it, and sensible IMO).
So, that makes your designed-to-be-lethal-weapon safe to own?
 

HomerJS

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How long before the right labels this white kid as “misunderstood” or “mentally ill”

Anything to keep from calling him a terrorist. That’s reserved for brown people
 
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Muse

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From news conference:

One shooter. 2 deceased non-students. 5 wounded. Shooter is a student and was wounded by law enforcement after failure to comply with their instructions. He has been apprehended and is in the hospital. shooter 20yr old Phoenix Eichner (spelling is mine) (correct spelling is Ikner) deputy sheriff's son. Used his mother's personal weapon. Also had some long gun.
So, steeped in gun culture. Nice guy, obviously.
 

Moonbeam

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It was more about the general atmosphere being more hostile. Like when the people in charge start messaging that certain people are "undesirable" it doesnt take long for the brownshirts to start turning up, and those are people that would be put off with a show of force!

This was a bit of fun geology i saw the other day! I was trying to work out how that bit in the middle got rolled like that!
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Thanks for showing me that.
 
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Moonbeam

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Well, he removed all doubt.
As I said fucked up young men who feel abandoned by society are to be pitied and should be cared for but they are also dangerous to help. People who hate themselves tend to resent any signs of kindness as tricks and lies, con jobs that someone whats something from them, etc.
 

nickqt

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I do not equate my freedom with my ability to buy an object the purpose of which is to kill or threaten people or animals with severe injury or painful death.
There are tens of millions of Americans who equate their freedom with being able to own a firearm with which to kill you, your family, and your community.

All of them fully support your choice not to safely own and know how to operate a firearm.
 
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DZero

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How long before the right labels this white kid as “misunderstood” or “mentally ill”

Anything to keep from calling him a terrorist. That’s reserved for brown people
Even worse, how many until they declare him as the hero of the story?
 

Greenman

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Patch him up, have a trial (his guilt seems obvious), put him away for life or fricassee his ass in the electric chair. My only issue is that the whole series of events will take twenty years and cost as many millions. One year start to finish should be plenty.
Maybe they could do him and Luigi in series and save a bit on their electric bill.
 

DZero

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Patch him up, have a trial (his guilt seems obvious), put him away for life or fricassee his ass in the electric chair. My only issue is that the whole series of events will take twenty years and cost as many millions. One year start to finish should be plenty.
Maybe they could do him and Luigi in series and save a bit on their electric bill.
The issue? Trump will execute Luigi in public and make him the executor and the national hero. Just like a movie.
 

Muse

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There are tens of millions of Americans who equate their freedom with being able to own a firearm with which to kill you, your family, and your community.

All of them fully support your choice not to safely own and know how to operate a firearm.
You cannot speak for people you know nothing about other than that they "own" a gun.
 
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