Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Yup...
she asked for it.. she got it...
if it was worth so little give the purse and call the cops ..
life to get another purse...
dumb chick... had a Darwin moment and payed for it.
give it a rest. the poor woman is dead.
hell, if you died you wouldn't want some punk on a tech forum to flame on your grave
Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: Arkitech
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: Hammer
its sad. i feel bad for her fiance too.
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Witnesses told investigators that one of the men grabbed for the other woman's purse and duFresne intervened, asking, "What are you going to do, shoot us?" A man then fired one shot at her, police said.
"GodDAMN awesome dude!"
Did the mods give this guy a vacation yet?
its a movie quote. can remember the name, but i think its eddie murphy and some big black woman fighting in an alley. she whoops his ass, he pulls a gun, she says "whatre you gonna do, shoot me?", and eddie proceeds to shoot her in the toe.
no need for bannage at this time.
Originally posted by: xospec1alk
http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/39299.htm
February 2, 2005 -- The sniveling jailbird charged with shooting Nicole duFresne had an "accident" in his trousers when a cop pointed a gun at him during a 2001 arrest, documents reveal.
Rudy Fleming admitted pointing a gun at Staten Island cops in 2001 when he was stopped for truancy ? but lost control of himself when a cop aimed a gun back at him, according to a transcript of his parole hearing last year.
"Everything went crazy, and the police officer pointed a weapon at me, and I got nervous," he told the three-member parole panel. "I had a little accident in my pants, to be exact."
Fleming was hauled in for truancy and was being searched by a school safety agent when she asked him whether he had anything he shouldn't, authorities said.
When she noticed the gun, she hollered, which brought four cops running over, guns drawn ? and Fleming pointed his .380 semiautomatic pistol at them.
"At that moment, I knew I was doing wrong, and I was trying to give the weapon, but the woman beside me panicked, and everything went crazy," Fleming told the board.
He also said he learned from his time in the joint because prison "teaches you to learn from your mistakes."
Originally posted by: exdeath
It happened in the gun fearing liberal Republik of New York of all places; no surprise there.
Don't bring words to a gun fight.
Originally posted by: exdeath
It happened in the gun fearing liberal Republik of New York of all places; no surprise there.
Don't bring words to a gun fight.
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: exdeath
It happened in the gun fearing liberal Republik of New York of all places; no surprise there.
Don't bring words to a gun fight.
How about bringing words to a word fight only to find out that one person is packing? Are you going to go around life with your head down, not looking anyone in the eye, not speaking to anyone just in case they have a gun, shoot you for saying something they don't like, and having someone on an internet message board bash YOU for saying something stupid instead of the moron with the gun?
Originally posted by: exdeath
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: exdeath
It happened in the gun fearing liberal Republik of New York of all places; no surprise there.
Don't bring words to a gun fight.
How about bringing words to a word fight only to find out that one person is packing? Are you going to go around life with your head down, not looking anyone in the eye, not speaking to anyone just in case they have a gun, shoot you for saying something they don't like, and having someone on an internet message board bash YOU for saying something stupid instead of the moron with the gun?
Absolutely not. Living in fear is not the answer. I mind my own business, treat everyone with the respect I expect from them, and maintain 360 deg situational awareness at all times. In cases like this story, I shoot first, and since I live in Arizona, I am legally protected by ARS 13-411 to do so thank you very much (ie: use of deadly force to prevent armed robbery is lawful).
I think you may have misunderstood me... I was of course referring to the socialist pacifist nature of NY.
Originally posted by: xospec1alk
http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/21693.htm
DuFresne, who spoke from her home in Minnesota, said she hopes her daughter's death will convince people to think more seriously about enacting stronger gun-control laws.
wtf? gun control laws would have done nothing to save her child, NYC has one of the strictest gun control laws on the books, and it doesn't do any good. Im sure this kid didn't get his gun by any legal means which throws all the laws out the window...friggin people...
Originally posted by: chowmein
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Yup...
she asked for it.. she got it...
if it was worth so little give the purse and call the cops ..
life to get another purse...
dumb chick... had a Darwin moment and payed for it.
give it a rest. the poor woman is dead.
hell, if you died you wouldn't want some punk on a tech forum to flame on your grave
If i was dumb enough to taunt a freaking group of thugs with a gun over some credit cards and a leather wallet.. ID EXPECT to get flamed..
screw the dead bitch..
who gives a flying fvck about her anyway..
what did she ever do that was so damned important?
create a cure for cancer?
Find a way to get humans to mars?
invent a new fuel source?
no she was a 2 bit actor hack/writer that really didnt amount to anything.
she was dumb and arragant and got shot.. big woop..
good riddence...
doesnt affect me in the slightest why should I care what happens to a stranger?
especially a stupid one...
Originally posted by: tec699
The only reason her death has gotten so much attention is because she's A WHITE FEMALE! If it had happened to a black couple the story would have been talked about for a day and then it would have been quickly discarded.
And you guys know that.
Originally posted by: JDub02
<shocked> how in the world did those criminals get a gun? guns are illegal in NYC. I can't believe those criminals would actually break the law! </shocked>
does anyone else see how dumb gun laws are? criminals won't do that kind of stuff if they think that people are carrying.
Originally posted by: Zebo
Just a question... as perp was fleeing scene would you have shot him, and his friends for that matter?
I doubt it's legal, but "window of opportunity" would be there as they must retreat vulnerable unless they kill the whole group...
I think I would have if he shot my wife like that.
Originally posted by: Ime
That's very sad, but you gotta admit she practically asked to be shot.
It doesn't matter the situation. If you are confronted with 4 armed robbers, you don't taunt them! Sheesh!
I feel badly for her fiancee.
Originally posted by: Zebo
Just a question... as perp was fleeing scene would you have shot him, and his friends for that matter?
I doubt it's legal, but "window of opportunity" would be there as they must retreat vulnerable unless they kill the whole group...
I think I would have if he shot my wife like that. my life would be over so what's the diff.
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: Ime
That's very sad, but you gotta admit she practically asked to be shot.
It doesn't matter the situation. If you are confronted with 4 armed robbers, you don't taunt them! Sheesh!
I feel badly for her fiancee.
seems like they didn't even know they had guns.
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: Zebo
Just a question... as perp was fleeing scene would you have shot him, and his friends for that matter?
I doubt it's legal, but "window of opportunity" would be there as they must retreat vulnerable unless they kill the whole group...
I think I would have if he shot my wife like that. my life would be over so what's the diff.
That's hard to answer, because of the way it all went down. I would have handled the whole thing differently. However, I'd like to think with all my experience and training I'd be able to avoid such a choice, either by avoiding the whole situation, giving them something so they'd go away without hurting anyone, or managing some method to kill them before they killed any of us.
IF I was in a similar situation where someone I was with was shot, then yes, I'd kill them no matter what (if I was able to). Law means very little to me, justice is FAR more important. The only real question is rather I'd go for the cover-up/excuse out, or just stand up and take my lumps in court. I'd like to think I'd stand up and take it, but it's hard to say without being in the situation. I mean, you could always take aim from cover, whistle at them, shoot them when they turn and then claim later that they were turning to fire again. In court you could claim temporary insanity. Etc.