Adding/Removing Software under Freebsd

[LuckyTaxi]

Normally I would go into the /usr/ports directory of the software and do a 'make deinstall'
Then I'm reading about 'pkg_remove' and 'pkg_add'

What is the difference, and what is the appropriate way to install new software.

Also how to go about updating software with a newer version.

 

[LuckyTaxi]

bump

 

[pedrog]

Hi,

Generally, I only compile myself, from ports, if I have to (special optimizations, special libraries, etc.).
You can install a binary and it's dependencies using the -r (remote) command.

pkg_add -r programname

Here is what the FreeBSD guys have to say about ports, (pretty much what you do now)

FreeBSD handbook

and somebody else too

more info yet

and even more!

 

[n0cmonkey]

I think with packages you have to have the package locally on the machine, but Im not sure.

 

[LuckyTaxi]

thx for the tip. 'pkg_add' requires the tar file in hand, while 'make install clean' will go fetch the files for you.
This is why I love freebsd. It took me 15 minutes to update PHP on my mandrake box today. damn dependencies!

 

[Nothinman]

This is why I love freebsd. It took me 15 minutes to update PHP on my mandrake box today. damn dependencies!

Perhaps you should install a distribution that actually does what you want then? Debian does auto-dependency fullfilling and you won't have to wait for it to compile.

 

[LuckyTaxi]

im going to wait for woody to come out. do you know when that will be?

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< im going to wait for woody to come out. do you know when that will be? >>



When its done

 

[LuckyTaxi]

good one...im itching to try it out. i hear good things about apt-get

However, i dont want to touch potato right now. i have this thing against old kernels.
it's running like 2.2 right? i like having the new stuff. besides, i dual boot and cant stand
the 8 gig limitation LILO puts on you with the older kernels.

 

[Nothinman]

When its done

Pretty much. It's frozen, but no date has been set so I wouldn't hold my breath. They have to wait for all 6-8 (some are just hoped for woody releases) ports to get working before a date can be set.

It did a http install of woody last night (XFS boot disks are woody only) and it worked great. I personally don't see a reason to wait.

Just saw your post about old kernels. woody is also slated for release with a 2.2 kernel, because they don't believe the 2.4 kernels are stable enough. You can run 2.4 kernels with no problem, but the CDs will have 2.2.something on it.

the 8 gig limitation LILO puts on you with the older kernels.

It has nothing to do with 2.2 kernels, it's a lilo/BIOS limitation. Using a newer lilo and 2.2 kernel won't be affected by the 1024 cylinder problem.

 

[LuckyTaxi]

is it worth downloading SID? I just found a mirror to get the ISO. It has the 2.4.17 kernel.

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< When its done

Pretty much. It's frozen, but no date has been set so I wouldn't hold my breath. They have to wait for all 6-8 (some are just hoped for woody releases) ports to get working before a date can be set. >>



KDE developers use the "when its done" excuse. I heard that and loved it. Did you ever check out my dselect for Mac OS X link?

 

[LuckyTaxi]

good lord....SID has like 8 cd images. which to get?!?!?

 

[pedrog]

no the '-r' options automagically downloads the binaries from the mothership

try it

 

[pedrog]

i just added cvsupit (and dependencies) with this

pkg_add -r cvsupit

look ma not local tar files

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< i just added cvsupit (and dependencies) with this

pkg_add -r cvsupit

look ma not local tar files >>



Ill try it on OpenBSD next time I delve into ports. I never bothered with packages much because I like to add optimizations to some things.

 

[LuckyTaxi]

<< It has nothing to do with 2.2 kernels, it's a lilo/BIOS limitation. Using a newer lilo and 2.2 kernel won't be affected by the 1024 cylinder problem. >>



So, if i were to download the stable version (Potato) I should be ok? I am tempted to download SID.