AGNOSTIC Accountability Groups Starting Up

[ValsalvaYourHeartOut]

Originally posted by: Palek
Well, my sarcasm meter exploded after reading the initial post.

Way to go guys, a "hate group" is just what was missing from this message board. I would not find your idea repulsive if your motives weren't so blatantly obvious. Starting a discussion about stem-cell research, abortion, etc. - I think that would be great. Even though these issues have been discussed before, it does not mean that everything that could be said has been said. But to start a support group for folks that hate/oppose Christians, now that is just juvenile and pathetic. Grow up and learn to accept people with different faiths/opinions. And if you really want to change them, you have to be a LOT more tactful. "You are stupid and I hate everything you stand for" just will not convince most intelligent people.

I think it is mighty presumptuous of you to call this a hate group...in fact, compared to the CHRISTIAN accountability thread, we're actually opening it up to everyone and encouraging discussion from any faith. Do you hear anyone whining about the Christian people coming in and spoiling things? Absolutely not! Cuz we're not like that!! OTOH, I notice that you've come in and already judged everyone...which somehow is not surprising.

However ,the most ironic thing you wrote was "grow up and learn to accept people with different faiths/opinions"...when in reality, it's the Christian faith that teaches its followers NOT to accept people of different faith because they are infidels and are all going to hell..in fact, Christianity teaches its believers to CONVERT people of other faiths, which is the epitome if disrespect for dissimilar beliefs, if you ask me. The other important point I need to make is that you ASSUME that agnostics are trying to "change" people (well, that's what you wrote)...no, sorry, we're not. The whole notion of "changing" people is a CHRISTIAN one, and undoubtedly represents your mentality when it comes to religion -- this is why you wrote about this concept, when in fact nobody here has suggested anything abotu changing anyone.

Valsalva

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Evolution = years of science, pointing conclusively to the fact that people evolved. Yes, I said fact.
Creationism = religous based hypothysis that people were somehow created by a God.

Don't try to disprove one wrong by pointing to another. Creationism is religous in nature and has no place in public schools. There is no arguement available to invalidate this.

Why do you suck? Because even in the face of logical discussions and fact you still depend on rhetoric to somehow prove your point. All is does is prove your inability to think in a logical manner.

"Try to disprove one wrong"? Double negatives make my head hurt. Learn english please. Anyway, if you had the slightest idea of what you're talking about (which you obviously don't) you'd be aware that there actually is scientific fact to back up some of creationisim. There's also scientific fact that is contradictory to creationisim. Exactly the same way that there is plenty of scientific fact to prove evolution and there is also scientific fact that is contradictory to evolution. But arguing with someone who think's theory is absolute is pointless.

Btw, feel free to criticize my "rhetoric" if you like but at least I've progressed past the age of 12 where "you suck" can be used as a way to get your point across. Although it was very convincing

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Evolution = years of science, pointing conclusively to the fact that people evolved. Yes, I said fact.
Creationism = religous based hypothysis that people were somehow created by a God.

Don't try to disprove one wrong by pointing to another. Creationism is religous in nature and has no place in public schools. There is no arguement available to invalidate this.

Why do you suck? Because even in the face of logical discussions and fact you still depend on rhetoric to somehow prove your point. All is does is prove your inability to think in a logical manner.

"Try to disprove one wrong"? Double negatives make my head hurt. Learn english please. Anyway, if you had the slightest idea of what you're talking about (which you obviously don't) you'd be aware that there actually is scientific fact to back up some of creationisim. There's also scientific fact that is contradictory to creationisim. Exactly the same way that there is plenty of scientific fact to prove evolution and there is also scientific fact that is contradictory to evolution. But arguing with someone who think's theory is absolute is pointless.

Btw, feel free to criticize my "rhetoric" if you like but at least I've progressed past the age of 12 where "you suck" can be used as a way to get your point across. Although it was very convincing

"Try to disprove one wrong" = "Try to prove one correct."

If you had even some fundamental grasp of English, you'd understand that.

- M4H

 

[TheBDB]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Evolution = years of science, pointing conclusively to the fact that people evolved. Yes, I said fact.
Creationism = religous based hypothysis that people were somehow created by a God.

Don't try to disprove one wrong by pointing to another. Creationism is religous in nature and has no place in public schools. There is no arguement available to invalidate this.

Why do you suck? Because even in the face of logical discussions and fact you still depend on rhetoric to somehow prove your point. All is does is prove your inability to think in a logical manner.

"Try to disprove one wrong"? Double negatives make my head hurt. Learn english please. Anyway, if you had the slightest idea of what you're talking about (which you obviously don't) you'd be aware that there actually is scientific fact to back up some of creationisim. There's also scientific fact that is contradictory to creationisim. Exactly the same way that there is plenty of scientific fact to prove evolution and there is also scientific fact that is contradictory to evolution. But arguing with someone who think's theory is absolute is pointless.

Btw, feel free to criticize my "rhetoric" if you like but at least I've progressed past the age of 12 where "you suck" can be used as a way to get your point across. Although it was very convincing

Your knowledge of english far outweighs your knowledge of science.

 

[fatbaby]

If we teach the theory of christian creationism in school, we would also have to teach the theories that buddhism, islam, hinduism, and whatever else exists too. Then the kids will be so confused that they will play video games and listen to rock music..

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: fatbaby
If we teach the theory of christian creationism in school, we would also have to teach the theories that buddhism, islam, hinduism, and whatever else exists too. Then the kids will be so confused that they will play video games and listen to rock music..

That derned Rook Musics and Vid-Yeh Telly-Games are goin' ta tern them into the Dark Spawn'a SATAN, Billy Joe Jim Bob! Git me mah holy water and a crucifix!

- M4H

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Evolution = years of science, pointing conclusively to the fact that people evolved. Yes, I said fact.
Creationism = religous based hypothysis that people were somehow created by a God.

Don't try to disprove one wrong by pointing to another. Creationism is religous in nature and has no place in public schools. There is no arguement available to invalidate this.

Why do you suck? Because even in the face of logical discussions and fact you still depend on rhetoric to somehow prove your point. All is does is prove your inability to think in a logical manner.

"Try to disprove one wrong"? Double negatives make my head hurt. Learn english please. Anyway, if you had the slightest idea of what you're talking about (which you obviously don't) you'd be aware that there actually is scientific fact to back up some of creationisim. There's also scientific fact that is contradictory to creationisim. Exactly the same way that there is plenty of scientific fact to prove evolution and there is also scientific fact that is contradictory to evolution. But arguing with someone who think's theory is absolute is pointless.

Btw, feel free to criticize my "rhetoric" if you like but at least I've progressed past the age of 12 where "you suck" can be used as a way to get your point across. Although it was very convincing

The scientific weight of evolution is exponentially higher than that of anything you could muster for creationism. If you want to shoot yourself in the foot, though, be my guest. I'd love to watch.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: ValsalvaYourHeartOut

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocateActually, I just wanted to know why you guys were singling out Christians.

You want some reasons? Okay, here goes:

1) Christians attempt to disrupt the lives of others by imposing their views and altering foreign policies to reflect their religions. Examples: stem-cell research, abortion, etc. Do you see Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, or agnostics doing this? NO. Only Christians.

2) Christians feel the need to convert other people to save them from hell. Attempting to change someone's religion is by definition DISRESPECTFUL of another person's belief. Do you see Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, or agnostics doing this? NO. Only Christians.

3) Many Christians feel that they are holier than thou and attempt to pass judgment on others. Do you see Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, or agnostics doing this? NO. Only Christians.

4) Christians harrass you in public places like university campuses and the supermarket and try to give you stupid little books...they even knock on your door on Sunday trying to teach you about the gospel of Jeebus. Do you see Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, or agnostics doing this? NO. Only Christians.

5) Christians feel the need to infiltrate our government and public schools in annoying ways, such as inscribing "In God We Trust" on our currency and making poor young kids say "one nation under god" every morning in the Pledge of Allegiance. Do you see Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, or agnostics doing this? NO. Only Christians.

I am flabbergasted that you honestly ask why Christians are "singled out"!!! It should be patently obvious to anyone who was in touch with reality, but given your recent bout of psychosis (see above), I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Valsalva

Islam does all of these things.
Let's face it, Val - you are scared to death of a fictional character and the people that like to read the book about him. Religious people may have a psychosis....but so do you.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: TheBDB

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Evolution = years of science, pointing conclusively to the fact that people evolved. Yes, I said fact.
Creationism = religous based hypothysis that people were somehow created by a God.

Don't try to disprove one wrong by pointing to another. Creationism is religous in nature and has no place in public schools. There is no arguement available to invalidate this.

Why do you suck? Because even in the face of logical discussions and fact you still depend on rhetoric to somehow prove your point. All is does is prove your inability to think in a logical manner.

"Try to disprove one wrong"? Double negatives make my head hurt. Learn english please. Anyway, if you had the slightest idea of what you're talking about (which you obviously don't) you'd be aware that there actually is scientific fact to back up some of creationisim. There's also scientific fact that is contradictory to creationisim. Exactly the same way that there is plenty of scientific fact to prove evolution and there is also scientific fact that is contradictory to evolution. But arguing with someone who think's theory is absolute is pointless.

Btw, feel free to criticize my "rhetoric" if you like but at least I've progressed past the age of 12 where "you suck" can be used as a way to get your point across. Although it was very convincing

Your knowledge of english far outweighs your knowledge of science.

Ok, so I'll let you be the one to prove what I've said wrong. Here's your homework assignment for the evening.

1) I said that there are areas of creationisim that have been scientificly proven. Prove that false for me.
2) I said there are areas of creationisim that run contradictory to science. Prove that wrong as well.
3) I said there is a good deal of scientific fact to back up evolution. Please prove this one wrong also.
4) I said that there are areas of evolution that run contrary to science. Prove that wrong for me too.

There you go. That's your job for the night. Don't bother posting until you've disproved at least one. Also please do a good job because I have facts to back up each one of those statements and you will be graded on this. If you're unable to do so I suppose you have no idea what my knowledge of science is.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Evolution = years of science, pointing conclusively to the fact that people evolved. Yes, I said fact.
Creationism = religous based hypothysis that people were somehow created by a God.

Don't try to disprove one wrong by pointing to another. Creationism is religous in nature and has no place in public schools. There is no arguement available to invalidate this.

Why do you suck? Because even in the face of logical discussions and fact you still depend on rhetoric to somehow prove your point. All is does is prove your inability to think in a logical manner.

"Try to disprove one wrong"? Double negatives make my head hurt. Learn english please. Anyway, if you had the slightest idea of what you're talking about (which you obviously don't) you'd be aware that there actually is scientific fact to back up some of creationisim. There's also scientific fact that is contradictory to creationisim. Exactly the same way that there is plenty of scientific fact to prove evolution and there is also scientific fact that is contradictory to evolution. But arguing with someone who think's theory is absolute is pointless.

Btw, feel free to criticize my "rhetoric" if you like but at least I've progressed past the age of 12 where "you suck" can be used as a way to get your point across. Although it was very convincing

The scientific weight of evolution is exponentially higher than that of anything you could muster for creationism. If you want to shoot yourself in the foot, though, be my guest. I'd love to watch.

Pics?

- M4H

 

[TheBDB]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: TheBDB

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Evolution = years of science, pointing conclusively to the fact that people evolved. Yes, I said fact.
Creationism = religous based hypothysis that people were somehow created by a God.

Don't try to disprove one wrong by pointing to another. Creationism is religous in nature and has no place in public schools. There is no arguement available to invalidate this.

Why do you suck? Because even in the face of logical discussions and fact you still depend on rhetoric to somehow prove your point. All is does is prove your inability to think in a logical manner.

"Try to disprove one wrong"? Double negatives make my head hurt. Learn english please. Anyway, if you had the slightest idea of what you're talking about (which you obviously don't) you'd be aware that there actually is scientific fact to back up some of creationisim. There's also scientific fact that is contradictory to creationisim. Exactly the same way that there is plenty of scientific fact to prove evolution and there is also scientific fact that is contradictory to evolution. But arguing with someone who think's theory is absolute is pointless.

Btw, feel free to criticize my "rhetoric" if you like but at least I've progressed past the age of 12 where "you suck" can be used as a way to get your point across. Although it was very convincing

Your knowledge of english far outweighs your knowledge of science.

Ok, so I'll let you be the one to prove what I've said wrong. Here's your homework assignment for the evening.

1) I said that there are areas of creationisim that have been scientificly proven. Prove that false for me.
2) I said there are areas of creationisim that run contradictory to science. Prove that wrong as well.
3) I said there is a good deal of scientific fact to back up evolution. Please prove this one wrong also.
4) I said that there are areas of evolution that run contrary to science. Prove that wrong for me too.

There you go. That's your job for the night. Don't bother posting until you've disproved at least one. Also please do a good job because I have facts to back up each one of those statements and you will be graded on this. If you're unable to do so I suppose you have no idea what my knowledge of science is.

Hahaha. Nah, if you want me to respect your knowledge of science go ahead and provide your facts. I'll take a look at them.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Ok, so I'll let you be the one to prove what I've said wrong. Here's your homework assignment for the evening.

1) I said that there are areas of creationisim that have been scientificly proven. Prove that false for me.
2) I said there are areas of creationisim that run contradictory to science. Prove that wrong as well.
3) I said there is a good deal of scientific fact to back up evolution. Please prove this one wrong also.
4) I said that there are areas of evolution that run contrary to science. Prove that wrong for me too.

There you go. That's your job for the night. Don't bother posting until you've disproved at least one. Also please do a good job because I have facts to back up each one of those statements and you will be graded on this. If you're unable to do so I suppose you have no idea what my knowledge of science is.

1) Link it or I'm calling shenanigans.
2) Hmm. That would be "pretty much everything" but let's start with the Adam & Eve thing. By that theory, we're sterile by second generation offspring, tops.
3) Seems true, seeing as science tends to back stuff that's been proven. (Note - that != "backing evolution", it means "backing the facts that support evolution" before you get your panties in a knot)
4) Chaos theory.

Hmm, you use the phrase "I said" a lot. Well, "I say" you should go have your nightly chat with the Invisible Man and continue your life inside the Matrix.

- M4H

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: TheBDB

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: TheBDB

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Evolution = years of science, pointing conclusively to the fact that people evolved. Yes, I said fact.
Creationism = religous based hypothysis that people were somehow created by a God.

Don't try to disprove one wrong by pointing to another. Creationism is religous in nature and has no place in public schools. There is no arguement available to invalidate this.

Why do you suck? Because even in the face of logical discussions and fact you still depend on rhetoric to somehow prove your point. All is does is prove your inability to think in a logical manner.

"Try to disprove one wrong"? Double negatives make my head hurt. Learn english please. Anyway, if you had the slightest idea of what you're talking about (which you obviously don't) you'd be aware that there actually is scientific fact to back up some of creationisim. There's also scientific fact that is contradictory to creationisim. Exactly the same way that there is plenty of scientific fact to prove evolution and there is also scientific fact that is contradictory to evolution. But arguing with someone who think's theory is absolute is pointless.

Btw, feel free to criticize my "rhetoric" if you like but at least I've progressed past the age of 12 where "you suck" can be used as a way to get your point across. Although it was very convincing

Your knowledge of english far outweighs your knowledge of science.

Ok, so I'll let you be the one to prove what I've said wrong. Here's your homework assignment for the evening.

1) I said that there are areas of creationisim that have been scientificly proven. Prove that false for me.
2) I said there are areas of creationisim that run contradictory to science. Prove that wrong as well.
3) I said there is a good deal of scientific fact to back up evolution. Please prove this one wrong also.
4) I said that there are areas of evolution that run contrary to science. Prove that wrong for me too.

There you go. That's your job for the night. Don't bother posting until you've disproved at least one. Also please do a good job because I have facts to back up each one of those statements and you will be graded on this. If you're unable to do so I suppose you have no idea what my knowledge of science is.

Hahaha. Nah, if you want me to respect your knowledge of science go ahead and provide your facts. I'll take a look at them.

Sounds like you're chicken to me, thumper.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Evolution = years of science, pointing conclusively to the fact that people evolved. Yes, I said fact.
Creationism = religous based hypothysis that people were somehow created by a God.

Don't try to disprove one wrong by pointing to another. Creationism is religous in nature and has no place in public schools. There is no arguement available to invalidate this.

Why do you suck? Because even in the face of logical discussions and fact you still depend on rhetoric to somehow prove your point. All is does is prove your inability to think in a logical manner.

"Try to disprove one wrong"? Double negatives make my head hurt. Learn english please. Anyway, if you had the slightest idea of what you're talking about (which you obviously don't) you'd be aware that there actually is scientific fact to back up some of creationisim. There's also scientific fact that is contradictory to creationisim. Exactly the same way that there is plenty of scientific fact to prove evolution and there is also scientific fact that is contradictory to evolution. But arguing with someone who think's theory is absolute is pointless.

Btw, feel free to criticize my "rhetoric" if you like but at least I've progressed past the age of 12 where "you suck" can be used as a way to get your point across. Although it was very convincing

The scientific weight of evolution is exponentially higher than that of anything you could muster for creationism. If you want to shoot yourself in the foot, though, be my guest. I'd love to watch.

Let me refresh your memory with excerpts from my post in big bold letters for you just so you can't miss them.

First quote: "there actually is scientific fact to back up some of creationisim.

Second quote: "Exactly the same way that there is plenty of scientific fact to prove evolution.

Just in case you're still confused about what those two quotes mean let me spell it out for you. plenty of > some of

So thank you Albert for telling me that there's more scientific fact behind evolution. Really, you don't say? Jesus Christ, you'd think I'd tried to imply it was the other way around. If you're bound and determined to argue you really should learn to read.

 

[TheBDB]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: TheBDB

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: TheBDB

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Evolution = years of science, pointing conclusively to the fact that people evolved. Yes, I said fact.
Creationism = religous based hypothysis that people were somehow created by a God.

Don't try to disprove one wrong by pointing to another. Creationism is religous in nature and has no place in public schools. There is no arguement available to invalidate this.

Why do you suck? Because even in the face of logical discussions and fact you still depend on rhetoric to somehow prove your point. All is does is prove your inability to think in a logical manner.

"Try to disprove one wrong"? Double negatives make my head hurt. Learn english please. Anyway, if you had the slightest idea of what you're talking about (which you obviously don't) you'd be aware that there actually is scientific fact to back up some of creationisim. There's also scientific fact that is contradictory to creationisim. Exactly the same way that there is plenty of scientific fact to prove evolution and there is also scientific fact that is contradictory to evolution. But arguing with someone who think's theory is absolute is pointless.

Btw, feel free to criticize my "rhetoric" if you like but at least I've progressed past the age of 12 where "you suck" can be used as a way to get your point across. Although it was very convincing

Your knowledge of english far outweighs your knowledge of science.

Ok, so I'll let you be the one to prove what I've said wrong. Here's your homework assignment for the evening.

1) I said that there are areas of creationisim that have been scientificly proven. Prove that false for me.
2) I said there are areas of creationisim that run contradictory to science. Prove that wrong as well.
3) I said there is a good deal of scientific fact to back up evolution. Please prove this one wrong also.
4) I said that there are areas of evolution that run contrary to science. Prove that wrong for me too.

There you go. That's your job for the night. Don't bother posting until you've disproved at least one. Also please do a good job because I have facts to back up each one of those statements and you will be graded on this. If you're unable to do so I suppose you have no idea what my knowledge of science is.

Hahaha. Nah, if you want me to respect your knowledge of science go ahead and provide your facts. I'll take a look at them.

Sounds like you're chicken to me, thumper.

Thank you for your comment. I care. I really do.

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Evolution = years of science, pointing conclusively to the fact that people evolved. Yes, I said fact.
Creationism = religous based hypothysis that people were somehow created by a God.

Don't try to disprove one wrong by pointing to another. Creationism is religous in nature and has no place in public schools. There is no arguement available to invalidate this.

Why do you suck? Because even in the face of logical discussions and fact you still depend on rhetoric to somehow prove your point. All is does is prove your inability to think in a logical manner.

"Try to disprove one wrong"? Double negatives make my head hurt. Learn english please. Anyway, if you had the slightest idea of what you're talking about (which you obviously don't) you'd be aware that there actually is scientific fact to back up some of creationisim. There's also scientific fact that is contradictory to creationisim. Exactly the same way that there is plenty of scientific fact to prove evolution and there is also scientific fact that is contradictory to evolution. But arguing with someone who think's theory is absolute is pointless.

Btw, feel free to criticize my "rhetoric" if you like but at least I've progressed past the age of 12 where "you suck" can be used as a way to get your point across. Although it was very convincing

The scientific weight of evolution is exponentially higher than that of anything you could muster for creationism. If you want to shoot yourself in the foot, though, be my guest. I'd love to watch.

Let me refresh your memory with excerpts from my post in big bold letters for you just so you can't miss them.

First quote: "there actually is scientific fact to back up some of creationisim.

Second quote: "Exactly the same way that there is plenty of scientific fact to prove evolution.

Just in case you're still confused about what those two quotes mean let me spell it out for you. plenty of > some of

So thank you Albert for telling me that there's more scientific fact behind evolution. Really, you don't say? Jesus Christ, you'd think I'd tried to imply it was the other way around. If you're bound and determined to argue you really should learn to read.

Gosh darn that science, gettin' in the way of our crusade!

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Really, you don't say? Jesus Christ, you'd think I'd tried to imply it was the other way around. If you're bound and determined to argue you really should learn to read.

Go say some Hail Marys. You just broke a Commandment.

Oh, and if you don't, you have to go to Hell.

- M4H

 

[TheBDB]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Really, you don't say? Jesus Christ, you'd think I'd tried to imply it was the other way around. If you're bound and determined to argue you really should learn to read.

Go say some Hail Marys. You just broke a Commandment.

Oh, and if you don't, you have to go to Hell.

- M4H

Hahaha...sucks to be Christian now huh!

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Really, you don't say? Jesus Christ, you'd think I'd tried to imply it was the other way around. If you're bound and determined to argue you really should learn to read.

Go say some Hail Marys. You just broke a Commandment.

Oh, and if you don't, you have to go to Hell.

- M4H

Ok, homework assignment for you as well. Go find a post of mine proclaiming myself to be christian. Good luck though as I highly doubt you'll find one since that's not me.

 

[OITLadyOwl]

I practice Shinto. (Gotta love the kami!) One of the specific tenets of Shinto is respect and acceptance of all people, regardless of their beliefs or lifestyles.

Please respect each other, despite what you may think of their beliefs. If more people did that, the world would be a better place, IMO.

Apt quote of the day:
"Scientific research shouldn't be hampered by religious notions."

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Really, you don't say? Jesus Christ, you'd think I'd tried to imply it was the other way around. If you're bound and determined to argue you really should learn to read.

Go say some Hail Marys. You just broke a Commandment.

Oh, and if you don't, you have to go to Hell.

- M4H

Ok, homework assignment for you as well. Go find a post of mine proclaiming myself to be christian. Good luck though as I highly doubt you'll find one since that's not me.

Then you're definately going to hell!

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Evolution = years of science, pointing conclusively to the fact that people evolved. Yes, I said fact.
Creationism = religous based hypothysis that people were somehow created by a God.

Don't try to disprove one wrong by pointing to another. Creationism is religous in nature and has no place in public schools. There is no arguement available to invalidate this.

Why do you suck? Because even in the face of logical discussions and fact you still depend on rhetoric to somehow prove your point. All is does is prove your inability to think in a logical manner.

"Try to disprove one wrong"? Double negatives make my head hurt. Learn english please. Anyway, if you had the slightest idea of what you're talking about (which you obviously don't) you'd be aware that there actually is scientific fact to back up some of creationisim. There's also scientific fact that is contradictory to creationisim. Exactly the same way that there is plenty of scientific fact to prove evolution and there is also scientific fact that is contradictory to evolution. But arguing with someone who think's theory is absolute is pointless.

Btw, feel free to criticize my "rhetoric" if you like but at least I've progressed past the age of 12 where "you suck" can be used as a way to get your point across. Although it was very convincing

Choke on it, Einstein.

 

[crabbyman]

Originally posted by: Alchemist99
Count me in too, and i agree with allot of what Valsalvayourheartout had to say.

I'm not an Atheist but i feel Religion can and is very dangerous. one only needs to look at
How many lives have been cut down in the name of God? Would the world be a better place without God?
If God does exist and this is the best plan he could come up with?

Man plus religion has proven itself to be a bad combo!

What I don?t get is how everyone considers their Religion to be the one and only true religion (some minor exceptions)

I am open minded to the possibility of some greater purpose, but i feel organized religion is not the way. Imho

I agree with Alchemist. I used to be a Christian. I don't know what I believe now. I don't know if I really believe in a higher power or not. There are some flaws to the whole story of Christianity. I actually want to read the Koran. I wish I had a class that would teach/read that. I am one of the nicest people you could know. I don't see why everyone is attacking everyone else. I say live and let live and let it be. I turned from the Christian faith for the hypocrisy of the church I was attending. Every other church I have been to has been similar. One of my best friends is Hard Core Christian and we get along well. I tell him my side of the story and he shares his thoughts and ideas with me. He tells me what the Bible says and I tell him what I experience. ...I just don't know.

I do have to say one thing....Mercenary For Hire...you are hilarious no matter what you say!

 

[ValsalvaYourHeartOut]

Originally posted by: crabbymanOne of my best friends is Hard Core Christian and we get along well. I tell him my side of the story and he shares his thoughts and ideas with me. He tells me what the Bible says and I tell him what I experience. ...I just don't know.

STAY AWAY FROM THAT GUY..he's bad news. You sound very susceptible based on what you wrote, and you could easily be sucked back into the Borg if you continue to listen to his mumbo jumbo. Be strong. Listen to the voice of reason rather than your friend's meaningless rhetoric. He will stop at nothing to assimilate you because he believes he has been commanded to do so...and he doesn't want you to burn in hell...he thinks he's doing you a favor but it's not. Get out while you can.

Valsalva

 

[crabbyman]

Originally posted by: OITLadyOwl
I practice Shinto. (Gotta love the kami!) One of the specific tenets of Shinto is respect and acceptance of all people, regardless of their beliefs or lifestyles.

Please respect each other, despite what you may think of their beliefs. If more people did that, the world would be a better place, IMO.

Apt quote of the day:
"Scientific research shouldn't be hampered by religious notions."

I am interested in your "religious" practices. Can you tell me about Shinto or lead me in the right direction to learn?