Fair enough, but how could they drill these precision holes without a drill or the ability to make a steel drill bit!?,
A lot of stone, sandstone, most limestones, is soft and easily carved. Much of the more intricate ancient stonework you see is created of these materials. Stone carvers today have better tools, but still use essentially the same manual techniques.
the extreme perfection of the lines is amazing, then at the whole site there are countless more examples of fitting extremely large, precision-cut stones together at Puma Punku. Construction experts working with today's powered tools have gone on record as saying "I don't know if we could do it nearly as well". I'd rather doubt it was ancient aliens but clearly these people had discovered/invented a technology that is unexplainable to modern man..
The rocks do not weight 1000s of tons. Not even close. Some of them weigh only a ton or two. The largest being around 80 tons. This is easily movable with hundreds or thousands of people, with enough leverage and enough time.
Everything on the History Channel should be taken with a grain....I mean, a bottle of salt.
Fair enough, but how could they drill these precision holes without a drill or the ability to make a steel drill bit!?,
some ancient greek guy came up with the size of earth like some time between 500 bc and 300 ad
True of Greece, if not of Egypt. And most of those slaves were from other countries. So they did have aliens help build ancient wonders. They just weren't space aliens. ^_^And more importantly they had a nearly endless supply of expendable slaves.
Fair enough, but how could they drill these precision holes without a drill or the ability to make a steel drill bit!?,
lol, hundreds of thousands of people. The amount of space required, rope needed , social skills and management necessary alone is a feet of astonishment moreso than the size of stones and placement.
I can think of an easier way to do it. Level out the land underneath the stones and chisel the stones as they naturally rest. The idea that some stones come from hundreds of miles away is absolute theory and is only based on current geographical locations and there is no hard evidence to support the notion. Doesn't mean granite stones were not already there, why not just remove what is under a pile of stones and chisel out block formations of each stone. Lots of rocky areas where stones just pile on top of each other. Or maybe they used a heard of elephants and whipped them into pulling the stones.
7 degree ramps is another method and doesn't require too many people using logs as rollers. Another would be using Sand to lower the blocks into place as the sand pours out of a built structure.
Anything but aliens, c'mon now.
A demonstration showed using sand and a tall log of sorts with rope spiraled so that each side pulls and it twists the log and the sand carves into the stone. A team of scientists made it work and drilled a hole into granite but doesn't mean that was exactly the original method. I think they used horses to walk around in a circle.
True of Greece, if not of Egypt. And most of those slaves were from other countries. So they did have aliens help build ancient wonders. They just weren't space aliens. ^_^
I'm not picturing how this would work but even if it did, these holes are like "1/4 and there are dozens of them on this one stone alone, it would take forever to make all the holes found at that site never-mind what's underneath which has been been discovered by ground penetrating radar but they don't want to maul the existing site to see what's there.
native (North, South and Central) Americans were MORE advanced; they respected the environment.
that is a joke. ever read up on what happened in the maya world
Yes they murdered a relatively few to appease their God. We go on murdering a lot more for whatever reason. Yes we are more 'advanced'.
Well, I sort of line up with the "you'd be surprised what they could accomplish" camp. Boring straight holes in stone and metal was not a problem for the Greeks and Romans. Imagine boring a canon bore out of a bronze casting in the age of water power . The Italians could do it in... like the 14th century or so. For all I know the Chinese may have done it earlier than that. Precision work from ancient craftsmen does not impress me nearly as much as the heavy construction work they were able to do. The mathematics and measurement techniques were well-developed by classical Greek times, at the latest.
IIRC these ruins date well before Greek times but anyway imagine what it must have been like when the first cannons were used in combat, I'd bet you probably never saw an army retreat so fast once they knew what they were up against..
I think the earliest examples were almost always deployed against fortifications. They were big, cumbersome affairs, and only their creators knew how to work them so they often came complete with a crew to operate the weapon. One account I've read describes a Venetian squad and the hours-long ritual they would go through to prepare the big gun for firing.
A lot of stone, sandstone, most limestones, is soft and easily carved. Much of the more intricate ancient stonework you see is created of these materials. Stone carvers today have better tools, but still use essentially the same manual techniques.
Here's a video of our astronauts walking through ruins on the moon. Not that I believe or disbelieve but it's fun to watch. I am curious as to what exactly that mummy is with that thing over her eyes as I'm sure it's not what was found on the moon but whatever, there it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRWbmiXQba0&list=TLH3bBi_2x3iRUwhl4xVDem4KIGl6JRo8r