Am I a liberal

daniel49

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If this article doesn't alarm and or concern you then you can rest at peace, you truly are a liberal.

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dannybin1742

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nice flame bate, maybe you fail to realise its getting harder for the busheviks to use fear to try and manipulate the sheep public
 

Amplifier

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So in the terrorist version of Islam a martyr dies and gets 77 virgins in the afterlife. Not a bad deal for a guy.

But what if a girl dies blowing up one of our buildings does she get 77 virgins? Rofl that's a funny thought. A 27yr old woman goes to the afterlife expecting peace and finds that 77 horny teenagers from heavens science club are anxiously waiting for her.
 

shira

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I guess I'm a true liberal. I'm not concerned about Islam, per se, in the least.

I AM concerned about religious fanatics of all stripes. Anyone that is so sure of what they believe that they want to force their beliefs on others - or change society to reflect those beliefs - has neither an understanding of what a free society really is nor a place in such a society.
 

cwgannon

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It's been said time and time again, but maybe the OP doesn't realize it:

These "Muslim terrorists" are no more Muslim than any member of the KKK is a Christian.

It's honestly not hard to grasp the concept that radical groups such as the aforementioned manipulate people's strong faith in their respective religion to do their cruel and wicked bidding.
 

Todd33

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Odds of dying in a terrorist attack? .000000001%

Odds of dying in a car accident from moron teen driver? .001%

Sorry if I don't sweat the small stuf in the name of imperialism and oil.

BTW nice troll thread.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Odds of dying in a terrorist attack? .000000001%

Odds of dying in a car accident from moron teen driver? .001%

Sorry if I don't sweat the small stuf in the name of imperialism and oil.

BTW nice troll thread.

Speaking of which, I'd like to see the foaming at the mouth crowd get all up in arms about things that are much more likely to kill them. Listening to them call everyone "traitor liberals" for not giving enough support to the fight against fast food related health problems would be highly amusing. But alas, the fact that they are foaming at the mouth in the first place means the rational part of their brain is pretty much drugged out or on vacation or something.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Odds of dying in a terrorist attack? .000000001%

Odds of dying in a car accident from moron teen driver? .001%

Sorry if I don't sweat the small stuf in the name of imperialism and oil.

BTW nice troll thread.

Now compare the economic damage of a wrecked Hyundai to the collapse of billion dollar buildings.
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Todd33
Odds of dying in a terrorist attack? .000000001%

Odds of dying in a car accident from moron teen driver? .001%

Sorry if I don't sweat the small stuf in the name of imperialism and oil.

BTW nice troll thread.

Now compare the economic damage of a wrecked Hyundai to the collapse of billion dollar buildings.

Now compare the number of wrecked Hyundais to the number of collapsed billion dollar buildings...
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Todd33
Odds of dying in a terrorist attack? .000000001%

Odds of dying in a car accident from moron teen driver? .001%

Sorry if I don't sweat the small stuf in the name of imperialism and oil.

BTW nice troll thread.

Now compare the economic damage of a wrecked Hyundai to the collapse of billion dollar buildings.

Now compare the number of wrecked Hyundais to the number of collapsed billion dollar buildings...

Over a million jobs were lost in the month after 9/11. I don't think car accidents do that...
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Over a million jobs were lost in the month after 9/11. I don't think car accidents do that...

Now consider how many attacks on the scale of 9/11 have occured in the past 10 years, and compare that to the number of wrecked Hyundais.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: daniel49
If this article doesn't alarm and or concern you then you can rest at peace, you truly are a liberal.

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So someone is liberal if they don't think all Muslims are terrorists?
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: daniel49
If this article doesn't alarm and or concern you then you can rest at peace, you truly are a liberal.

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So someone is liberal if they don't think all Muslims are terrorists?

Agreed, I'm confused as to what is supposed to 'alarm' me. It's a somewhat interesting survey though.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Todd33
Odds of dying in a terrorist attack? .000000001%

Odds of dying in a car accident from moron teen driver? .001%

Sorry if I don't sweat the small stuf in the name of imperialism and oil.

BTW nice troll thread.

Now compare the economic damage of a wrecked Hyundai to the collapse of billion dollar buildings.

now compare the economic damage from 2 wrecked towers to a million auto wrecks a year and several thousand fatalities annually
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Todd33
Odds of dying in a terrorist attack? .000000001%

Odds of dying in a car accident from moron teen driver? .001%

Sorry if I don't sweat the small stuf in the name of imperialism and oil.

BTW nice troll thread.

Now compare the economic damage of a wrecked Hyundai to the collapse of billion dollar buildings.

Now compare the number of wrecked Hyundais to the number of collapsed billion dollar buildings...

Over a million jobs were lost in the month after 9/11. I don't think car accidents do that...

i'm sure if a years worth of car accidents happened in one day the results would be much worse.
 

Harvey

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I took the test, and it's a fraud. The results came back and said I was pregnant. Interesting for a 63 year old guy.
 

magomago

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Well atleast you got conclusive results! I took it twice, and the first time it was blue, and the second time was pink!


And being a Muslim myself, I can only give a HUGE thumbs up to the fact that progress is being made to eradicate lies.
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Todd33
Odds of dying in a terrorist attack? .000000001%

Odds of dying in a car accident from moron teen driver? .001%

Sorry if I don't sweat the small stuf in the name of imperialism and oil.

BTW nice troll thread.

Now compare the economic damage of a wrecked Hyundai to the collapse of billion dollar buildings.

Now compare the number of wrecked Hyundais to the number of collapsed billion dollar buildings...

Over a million jobs were lost in the month after 9/11. I don't think car accidents do that...

i'm sure if a years worth of car accidents happened in one day the results would be much worse.

But, alas, they don't. And right there, your argument dies. Car accidents, hate to say it, actually help the economy in may ways. Car accidents create jobs in the form of mechanics and body shops. Hurricanes do the same thing, except in the construction industry. 9/11, well, a million jobs were lost.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: ntdz
But, alas, they don't. And right there, your argument dies. Car accidents, hate to say it, actually help the economy in may ways. Car accidents create jobs in the form of mechanics and body shops. Hurricanes do the same thing, except in the construction industry. 9/11, well, a million jobs were lost.

You're argument lacks a bit of logic. Out of any type of destruction, it is quite possible for several jobs being created; that's a given. However, while some jobs were lost, I don't see how a million are now gone.

Also, you keep saying a million, please provide some evidence that proves that to be true.

Outside of the bubble bursting on the internet boom (And I don't think anyone could have prevented it), I don't see this million that we're lacking. Even the surfacing of all of the accounting frauds, I'm not sure about this million number; and those were not caused by 9/11.
 

EyeMNathan

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The only reason any American says they have a positive view of Islam is because they don't want to be accused of being a racist.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Todd33
Odds of dying in a terrorist attack? .000000001%

Odds of dying in a car accident from moron teen driver? .001%

Sorry if I don't sweat the small stuf in the name of imperialism and oil.

BTW nice troll thread.

Now compare the economic damage of a wrecked Hyundai to the collapse of billion dollar buildings.

Now compare the number of wrecked Hyundais to the number of collapsed billion dollar buildings...

Over a million jobs were lost in the month after 9/11. I don't think car accidents do that...

i'm sure if a years worth of car accidents happened in one day the results would be much worse.

But, alas, they don't. And right there, your argument dies. Car accidents, hate to say it, actually help the economy in may ways. Car accidents create jobs in the form of mechanics and body shops. Hurricanes do the same thing, except in the construction industry. 9/11, well, a million jobs were lost.

Using that criteria, so do Terrorist attacks. They provide Patients for Hospitals, new Construction work, increased spending on Security Infrastructure, Wars for Weapons suppliers, hell Al Quaida has done more to stimulate the US Economy than years worth of Auto Accidents. Just ask Haliburton.
 

Tommunist

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Todd33
Odds of dying in a terrorist attack? .000000001%

Odds of dying in a car accident from moron teen driver? .001%

Sorry if I don't sweat the small stuf in the name of imperialism and oil.

BTW nice troll thread.

Now compare the economic damage of a wrecked Hyundai to the collapse of billion dollar buildings.

Now compare the number of wrecked Hyundais to the number of collapsed billion dollar buildings...

Over a million jobs were lost in the month after 9/11. I don't think car accidents do that...

i'm sure if a years worth of car accidents happened in one day the results would be much worse.

But, alas, they don't. And right there, your argument dies. Car accidents, hate to say it, actually help the economy in may ways. Car accidents create jobs in the form of mechanics and body shops. Hurricanes do the same thing, except in the construction industry. 9/11, well, a million jobs were lost.

Using that criteria, so do Terrorist attacks. They provide Patients for Hospitals, new Construction work, increased spending on Security Infrastructure, Wars for Weapons suppliers, hell Al Quaida has done more to stimulate the US Economy than years worth of Auto Accidents. Just ask Haliburton.

someone will make money on every situation - that's what capitalism is all about.
 

RightIsWrong

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Originally posted by: ntdz

But, alas, they don't. And right there, your argument dies. Car accidents, hate to say it, actually help the economy in may ways. Car accidents create jobs in the form of mechanics and body shops. Hurricanes do the same thing, except in the construction industry. 9/11, well, a million jobs were lost.

Where were these "million jobs" lost? They certainly weren't all lost in NYC. A study there found that only 105,200 were lost at an average salary of $11.00/hr. And of those 105,200, the biggest sector of jobs that were lost were restaurant.

Source

I would argue that the "other" 900,000+ jobs (which I would love to see a breakdown of) could be attributed to the state of the economy at that time. If you remember, jobs were being lost PRIOR to 9/11 because of the recession that everyone on the right still loves to say Clinton left Bush. I would think that it would be hard to distinguish between this recession and the actual impact of 9/11. I think that you could make a case for the airlines layoffs, but even then, they layoff so much and so sporadically that some of those layoffs could have been in the works for months and 9/11 just gave them the excuse they needed to follow through without the public backlash.

How do you differentiate between sectors that were already slowing and laying off like manufacturing? If you notice on this report from the GAO, they show that NYC and the rest of the country were losing jobs at a pretty good clip prior to 9/11 also. They also concluded that, although bad, the original financial impact of 9/11 was not as bad as they originally estimated.

I could argue also, that they jobs that were lost in NYC were outsourced to other states where companies saw the risk lessoned. Care to show where your numbers are coming from and how they arrived at them?
 
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