Amazon Subprime

[MrSquished]

Amazon has more than 110 active fulfillment centers in the US.The states with the most Amazon warehouse locations are California, Texas, Illinois, Florida, and Pennsylvania.

I get packages from at leat 10 different warehouses, probably more. Including Pennsylvania, right by you. Now explain how where I live effects how long it takes them to actually ship the package? Not delivery time, shipping the package.

Years ago they always shipped the same day. Even Newegg can do that, without paying for a membership.

It's like you are so close but yet will never get there. Yes, Amazon has over 110 fulfillment centers, but to you it's impossible there is any variance in quality of service provided between them.

That's great you get from fulfillment centers in Pennsylvania, I don't. It has no relation to my experience in Northern NJ. I mean I dunno what to tell you to keep your dream alive, stuff here I order generally ships fast and gets here fast. It's not a perfect record but it's a very high hit rate. So if possible variance between fulfillment center quality is impossible to happen over 110 fulfillment centers, then why this disparity in service? What's YOUR theory?

 

[WilliamM2]

It's really beyond your comprehension. They don't stock everything at every warehouse. I don't care where you live, they will use more than one warehouse for your orders.

They must have a single magical warehouse for Mr. Squished, where everything is stocked, and shipped promptly.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

They have completely changed how things get to me. Packages always went to a distribution center near Cincinnati, then to another major hub city where UPS picked them up and carried them through at least one more hub in another state, before finally getting to me. I could usually track packages all the way on the UPS site. Time was all over the place, maybe a day or three, maybe over a week, sometime almost two weeks, for the same travel route.

Now they seem to carry it on their own to one of their centers about 100 miles from me, then reship via Mail. And it seems they even carry it to my local PO instead of using normal Mail systems. I can't really track accurately at all until the last day.

 

[nakedfrog]

It's really beyond your comprehension. They don't stock everything at every warehouse. I don't care where you live, they will use more than one warehouse for your orders.

They must have a single magical warehouse for Mr. Squished, where everything is stocked, and shipped promptly.

He does live in/near the most populous city in the entire country... I also stopped seeing delays before items are shipped once I moved from podunk to near a major city.

 

[MrSquished]

It's really beyond your comprehension. They don't stock everything at every warehouse. I don't care where you live, they will use more than one warehouse for your orders.

They must have a single magical warehouse for Mr. Squished, where everything is stocked, and shipped promptly.

Where did I say I only get things from one Warehouse? Again you're just making things up. I live in Northeast New Jersey. Guess what genius, Amazon has multiple warehouses up here. I think some do come from out of state here and there but it's more rare than not. I would say without looking at my package history at least 80 to 85% originate in New Jersey.

I'm not sure what's so hard for you to get that it's possible for there to be variances out of over 110 warehouses in multiple regions.

So what's your theory as to why why the majority of my packages ship ip pretty fast and get here fast? I'm still waiting for your counter argument. Since it can't be any variants and quality across 110 warehouses. I

 

[WilliamM2]

Where did I say I only get things from one Warehouse? Again you're just making things up. I live in Northeast New Jersey. Guess what genius, Amazon has multiple warehouses up here. I think some do come from out of state here and there but it's more rare than not.

I think you may finally be getting it. I get things shipped from Jersey as well. They use the same warehouses for all customers, depending on where the item is stocked.

So what would your theory be, as to why the same warehouse would take longer to ship to different areas?

 

[MrSquished]

I think you may finally be getting it. I get things shipped from Jersey as well. They use the same warehouses for all customers, depending on where the item is stocked.

So what would your theory be, as to why the same warehouse would take longer to ship to different areas

I'm not sure if I can quite get down to the kindergarten level of logic I have to use to get this through your head but let me try.

What are the top three warehouses your Amazon packages come from? The city they are in you can see that easily via Amazon tracker.

 

[WilliamM2]

I'm not sure if I can quite get down to the kindergarten level of logic I have to use to get this through your head but let me try.

What are the top three warehouses your Amazon packages come from? The city they are in you can see that easily via Amazon tracker.

Just buzz off. Most of them have been in your area. Baltimore, Jersey and Pennsylvania.

 

[MrSquished]

Just buzz off. Most of them have been in your area. Baltimore, Jersey and Pennsylvania.

Which cities specifically? This is not a trick question it's a very fair question.

I looked through twenty orders and found the cities and there is a distinct pattern.

So look through a bunch of orders and tell us the cities.

edit: Also, another factor is probably the shipper used. For example, 8 out of 10 of my packages come from Amazon Logistcs, if not even closer to 9 out of 10. There is definitely a potential difference in how Amazon gets packages to their own shipping company vs external ones. For the orders I looked at, they were almost all Amazon Logistics delivered.

 

[mindless1]

I shop from amazon a fair amount but have no use for their aux services such as audio video games etc.

I've had prime and not had it, off and on over the years, and live near a major city and nearer still to a major amazon hub.

I noticed a change from before covid, to during and post-covid. Before covid, with prime, I'd get packages in 2 days more often than not, sometimes taking 3-4. Before covid, without prime, they would sit on the order for a few days as if they were punishing me for not having prime, then once the order did ship, arrived in 1-2 days.

Post-covid, without prime, they no longer sit on the order and wait to ship, but even with prime, a lot more items take more than 2 days to arrive, and it's an unpredictable mix of UPS (not sure if they are still using them in 2024), USPS, and Amazon vehicles. I seldom see any amazon drivers with their own vehicles.

Granted, I have to also factor in that I am often buying things when they drop to especially low price, and Amazon often ends up out of stock on those items the same or next day, so amazon may have a little lag from selling out of stock then shipping remaining orders with soon-to-arrive, new stock.

Overall, the Amazon experience has been more positive than negative, though I am still a little disturbed that my primary account there was perma-banned from positing on their site... for not doing anything except asking why I had been banned previously, for pointing out fake capacities on batteries and false lumen ratings on flashlights.

That is the most disturbing thing about amazon, that they don't effectively police this kind of fraud and still carry public nuisance illegal items like LED retrofit headlight bulbs. I can appreciate it being like a game of Wack-A-Mole to get rid of the fake capacity memory products but they seem to just turn a blind eye to lumen ratings and battery capacities.

I could be wrong, these might (not!) really be 100,000 lumens:

Amazon.com

 

[WilliamM2]

Which cities specifically? This is not a trick question it's a very fair question.

I looked through twenty orders and found the cities and there is a distinct pattern.

So look through a bunch of orders and tell us the cities.

edit: Also, another factor is probably the shipper used. For example, 8 out of 10 of my packages come from Amazon Logistcs, if not even closer to 9 out of 10. There is definitely a potential difference in how Amazon gets packages to their own shipping company vs external ones. For the orders I looked at, they were almost all Amazon Logistics delivered.

I can only track the last few orders. There is no tracking button on orders prior to March, and a couple in March are also missing the tracking button now.

Edison, NJ
Baltimore, MD

They start out with Amazon Logistics, and are then handed off to USPS or UPS once they are in my city, or near my city. Although that would affect time in transit, not time to ship. I psss Amazon semi's quite often in this area.

They are building a facility on the edge of town, but are very tight lipped about it. Not sure if it will be a shipping hub, or a fulfillment center.

 

[MrSquished]

I can only track the last few orders. There is no tracking button on orders prior to March, and a couple in March are also missing the tracking button now.

Edison, NJ
Baltimore, MD

They start out with Amazon Logistics, and are then handed off to USPS or UPS once they are in my city, or near my city. Although that would affect time in transit, not time to ship.
They are building a facility on the edge of town, but are very tight lipped about it. Not sure if it will be a shipping hub, or a fulfillment center.

So for me, the vast majority of my packages originate in Carteret, NJ or Kearny, NJ. The vast majority are sent AND delivered by Amazon. I can get two deliveries in the same day from an Amazon van - and it will be one driver in the early afternoon, and another driver in the evening. Walking the dog around my neighborhood I'll often see multiple Amazon deliveries happening by different Amazon vans/trucks at the same time. I do get some UPS and some USPS handoffs but they are 1-2 times out of 10 orders.

We have different warehouses servicing us, and we also have mostly different fulfillment methods. We live in different areas with different populations and density and thus those variables are created. Also every warehouse is not going to be run the same efficiency wise. Some management teams at one warehouse will run things better than at others. Those are your variables right there IMO.

In my last twenty orders I did get one thing fulfilled from Behrlingsville, PA and one thing from an Ohio warehouse. But Carteret and Kearny in NJ are my spots. There are variables between warehouses.

 

[Zor Prime]

what happened is most ATOT millionaires moved out into the country, and Amazon Logistics doesn't extend that far. (It does sound like Louis DeJoy's USPS has gotten worse, no surprise to anyone.)

The rest of us stuck in urban doom loops and the suburbs get to keep our 2 day (or less) delivery time.

Can confirm.

My place in WV I can get Amazon packages with typical city delivery times. My dad less than 10 minutes away it's a guess as to when he's going to get Amazon packages. So when he needs something ASAP I'll order him something and just have him drive less than 10 minutes away to my place there to get it. lol

Out here in CA I can get things same-day. So there we have it, a 3-step sliding scale. "Who Knows," to "Relatively Quick," to "Freaky Fast."

 

[Zor Prime]

Amazon isn't just trying to make things complicated and fleece people paying for Prime, they also try to find new and innovative ways to fleece and screw 3rd party sellers, too.

I sell stuff on Amazon. Recently they introduced to sellers a "low-inventory fee." This has caused a gargantuan headache. What happens if you tell your sellers that you're going to start fining them for not having enough inventory? Well, particularly those with razor-thin margins as it is, they gather up as many units as possible and everyone starts sending stuff en mass to one of the big intake hubs.

Now what does that do? It causes a huge bottleneck. It's now taking what used to be a same-week intake process, maybe 2 weeks with shipments by freight, to now around 2 months.

Case example. My most recent shipment took 3 weeks to get from the yard to the dock to be sorted through. Here I am losing money. People cancelling orders. I don't blame them for a second, I would too.

You know good and well they can't be so stupid they didn't see this mess coming. They don't care. They're heartless pricks. They're @$!# as a business partner. It's like living in an abusive relationship.

 

[skyking]

I cancelled prime for a couple of reasons:
1) not giving fucknuts another dime whenever possible.
2) See #1
3) price vs services. Price went up, services have declined.
If I can find what I want from a local retailer not owned by one of the richest assholes on the planet, I'll go there.

 

[Torn Mind]

Accidental post. Delete/ignore.

 

[balloonshark]

So now they added AI to the "Looking for specific info?" search box on product pages. I use the search all the time so this sucks since I now need to click the "show related answers" arrow to view the info I want to see.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

^^^ They infested Adobe Reader with that crap too. Couldn't find a way to delete it, so I rolled back to the previous version.