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desprado

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Russian showed me the errors of my judgement regarding 4GB being fail for 4K. When faced with evidence to the contrary, a man changes his mind.

It's essentially a very simple concept: these GPUs lack the grunt to push 4K with AA settings that bottleneck the vram.
Thank you for coming to reality which is totally different.
 
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Do not bring EVGA Hybrid GTX 980 ti because it is nearly 30% faster than Fury X water to water.

Fury X real competitor is GTX 980 Ti reference so we keep it that way.

Until there's a review which shows CF v SLI with those setups at 4K, your number is meaningless.

You already showed a highly factory-OC G1 980Ti SLI trading blows with a reference Fury X.
 

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Until there's a review which shows CF v SLI with those setups at 4K, your number is meaningless.

You already showed a highly factory-OC G1 980Ti SLI trading blows with a reference Fury X.
Wrong it is Water Cool reference that is why it is a bit expensive and their will be no other version of Water cooling of Fury X.

Let me make it clear that

Water Cooling Fury X> Custom Air Cooling Fury X.
 
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My point was that 4 way results are meaningless. the only results that matter are 2 way because thats the only practical config 99% of multi-gpu users will use. Yes the Fury X scales well and catches up to the 980ti but it only goes from losing mostly in single card configs to about even at 4k.

ATM with the reviews we have.

1440P:
Fury X ~5-10% slower than 980Ti.

4K:
Fury X ~= 980Ti
2x Fury X ~10% faster than 2x 980Ti.
4x Fury X ~ridiculously faster than 4x 980Ti.

Maybe someone will be brave enough and put 4x G1 OC 980Ti in a case (1000W in a closed case will wreck ambient temps, PC goes into thermal meltdown heh!) and battle it out versus 4x Fury X...
 

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ATM with the reviews we have.

1440P:
Fury X ~5-10% slower than 980Ti.

4K:
Fury X ~= 980Ti
2x Fury X ~10% faster than 2x 980Ti.
4x Fury X ~ridiculously faster than 4x 980Ti.

Maybe someone will be brave enough and put 4x G1 OC 980Ti in a case (1000W in a closed case will wreck ambient temps, PC goes into thermal meltdown heh!) and battle it out versus 4x Fury X...

5-10% at 1440p is generous. it gets slaughtered at 1440p. The Fury X should only be considered by 4k users.
 
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5-10% at 1440p is generous. it gets slaughtered at 1440p. The Fury X should only be considered by 4k users.

Sorry that major review sites don't agree with you.

Feel free to check the performance summary at 1440p from TPU, Computerbase, Sweclockers etc. Toms & Guru3d found similar results.
 

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Russian showed me the errors of my judgement regarding 4GB being fail for 4K. When faced with evidence to the contrary, a man changes his mind.

It's essentially a very simple concept: these GPUs lack the grunt to push 4K with AA settings that bottleneck the vram.

If I'm going to buy a $650 flagship card, I'll be buying it to play games a year or two out and seeing that games are pushing 4gb now I would feel much better with the 6gb 980ti. Especially if I was going sli/crossfire.
 

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Sorry that major review sites don't agree with you.

Feel free to check the performance summary at 1440p from TPU, Computerbase, Sweclockers etc. Toms & Guru3d found similar results.

Don't you OC your cards? What's the gap after both are OC'ed 20~25%?
 

desprado

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Sorry that major review sites don't agree with you.

Feel free to check the performance summary at 1440p from TPU, Computerbase, Sweclockers etc. Toms & Guru3d found similar results.
The question did you check Anandtech and Guru3D benchmark?GTX 980 Ti reference is above 10% faster than Fury X.
 
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If I'm going to buy a $650 flagship card, I'll be buying it to play games a year or two out and seeing that games are pushing 4gb now I would feel much better with the 6gb 980ti. Especially if I was going sli/crossfire.

Titan 6GB vs R290X 4GB, CF vs SLI, pretty sure CF R290X is much faster these days, and its a few years out from their original release.

Currently CF Fury X at 4K is faster than SLI 980Ti. It takes a G1 980Ti SLI to match stock Fury X CF, but suffer worse temps (GPU & case ambient) & noise. Different priorities for different people.
 

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I'm saying VSR with its superior IQ will mean 4K performance is relevant for people not on 4K.
Well just accept the fact that GTX 980 Ti is better than Fury X in every term and plz do not give excuse or justification.

GTX 980 Ti deserve the respect of hardcore gamer.
 
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The question did you check Anandtech and Guru3D benchmark?GTX 980 Ti reference is above 10% faster than Fury X.

You can check [H] too, where 980Ti is 25%-50% faster than Fury X.

But feel free to make it seem like whatever % you want. I trust sites like TPU, computerbase, sweclockers that run a lot of games, neutral, AMD GE and NV GW combined, and offer a performance summary chart.

They don't even run Civ BE in Mantle mode, where the gains are huge:



If those sites actually did, the 1440p gap will shrink from 5-10% to even less.
 
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Well just accept the fact that GTX 980 Ti is better than Fury X in every term and plz do not give excuse or justification.

GTX 980 Ti deserve the respect of hardcore gamer.

No, it's actually not a religion.

When Fury X multi-GPU pwns 980Ti multi-GPU, that isn't actually "better" for the 980Ti.
 

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Titan 6GB vs R290X 4GB, CF vs SLI, pretty sure CF R290X is much faster these days, and its a few years out from their original release.

Currently CF Fury X at 4K is faster than SLI 980Ti. It takes a G1 980Ti SLI to match stock Fury X CF, but suffer worse temps (GPU & case ambient) & noise. Different priorities for different people.

Wrong. When the titan came out 6 gb was excessive, games weren't using anything close to 6gb(just like the 12gb titan X is now) and everyone knew it. A better example is the 2gb 680 vs the 3gb 7970, when the 680 came out reviews didn't show it to be a problem (similar to fury x now) but games were already starting to push the frame buffer to the limit. About a year later the 3gb 7970 turned out to be the much better choice.
 

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No, it's actually not a religion.

When Fury X multi-GPU pwns 980Ti multi-GPU, that isn't actually "better" for the 980Ti.

U mean to say GTX 980 Ti reference SLI is a bit weak than Fury X CF on 4K than yes see it is not that hard to admit facts.
 
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Wrong. When the titan came out 6 gb was excessive, games weren't using anything close to 6gb(just like the 12gb titan X is now) and everyone knew it. A better example is the 2gb 680 vs the 3gb 7970, when the 680 came out reviews didn't show it to be a problem (similar to fury x now) but games were already starting to push the frame buffer to the limit. About a year later the 3gb 7970 turned out to be the much better choice.

What we know now, based on review evidence:

1 GPU is not enough to even run 4K at semi-max settings.
2 GPUs are not enough to run 4K at maxed settings with 4x MSAA where vram matters.

Note this is FXAA, not MSAA, performance would tank massively to a slideshow.


This isn't even maxed, it's using post AA and not MSAA, vram doesn't matter in Witcher 3 as well, its all GPU processing power.


4 GPUs would be required to truly max and have 4x MSAA in some games.

What's the major logical assumption moving forward? Future games will be more GPU demanding, not less.

So in the hypothetical scenario, 2 years from now, applying current-gen Fury X/980Ti scenario:

1 GPU is not enough to run 4K at medium/high.
2 GPU is not enough to run 4K at semi-max settings without MSAA.
4 GPU is probably enough to run 4K at maxed without MSAA.

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I used to believe that 4GB vram was not enough at 4K but certainly after reading Russian's posts and the evidence presented, it's very hard to argue that case anymore. Games will increasingly demand more GPU grunt and texture quality is already 4K for some, 4GB will be enough until games start pushing 8K textures, at which point, these gen GPUs will just tank due to lack of performance in general, so it doesn't matter.
 

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U mean to say GTX 980 Ti reference SLI is a bit weak than Fury X CF on 4K than yes see it is not that hard to admit facts.

Fury X is a good card. But when it didn't meet the insane hype, people will grasp any positive they can find to justify it like crossfire performance at 4k while ignoring everything else like future vram needs for 4k or overclocking potential.
 

desprado

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What we know now, based on review evidence:

1 GPU is not enough to even run 4K at semi-max settings.
2 GPUs are not enough to run 4K at maxed settings with 4x MSAA where vram matters.



This isn't even maxed, it's using post AA and not MSAA, vram doesn't matter in Witcher 3 as well, its all GPU processing power.


4 GPUs would be required to truly max and have 4x MSAA.

What's the major logical assumption moving forward? Future games will be more GPU demanding, not less.

So in the hypothetical scenario, 2 years from now, applying current-gen Fury X/980Ti scenario:

1 GPU is not enough to run 4K at medium/high.
2 GPU is not enough to run 4K at semi-max settings without MSAA.
4 GPU is probably enough to run 4K at maxed without MSAA.

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I used to believe that 4GB vram was not enough at 4K but certainly after reading Russian's posts and the evidence presented, it's very hard to argue that case anymore. Games will increasingly demand more GPU grunt and texture quality is already 4K for some, 4GB will be enough until games start pushing 8K textures, at which point, these gen GPUs will just tank due to lack of performance in general, so it doesn't matter.

2 Highly OC GTX 980 Ti SLI are enough but Not 4X Fury CF due to lack of Vram.
 

desprado

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Fury X is a good card. But when it didn't meet the insane hype, people will grasp any positive they can find to justify it like crossfire performance at 4k while ignoring everything else like future vram needs for 4k or overclocking potential.
Still they are saying wait for Win 10 and just wait.We will show you kind of threat.
 
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