AMD launches Ryzen Mobile 7 2700U & 5 2500U with Vega Graphics

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piesquared

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These Ryzen Mobile APUs are fantastic. They open up markets for AMD that they haven't been able to participate in for many years. Being able to play Battlefield on that form factor is quite a surprise. Even though i don't imagine many will be buying it as a gaming laptop, having that GPU performance is a very nice added bonus. They also provide for much simpler and cheaper designs for OEMs without having to add a discrete GPU. Ryzen Mobile will be hard to beat in this form factor.
 

OTG

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You're all joking about the Aspire, right?
The Swift is a pound lighter and half an inch thinner.
I'm not sure that I need a laptop like that (hell, I'm still using a 7-year-old Macbook), but there's for sure a market that does and
you can't with a straight face argue that the two are directly comparable.
 

Headfoot

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Pretty amazing turn around compared to FX... With these the difference between Intel's top end and the Ryzen ones is easily within the margin of error of OEM cooling/throttling design. Basically now its more important to check the specific notebook's benchmarks than to check the CPU cross-compare (iGPU aside)
 
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LTC8K6

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Didn't seem to be that much difference between the 2500U and the 2700U as far as gaming.
I was expecting more of a separation.
 

rainy

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Didn't seem to be that much difference between the 2500U and the 2700U as far as gaming.
I was expecting more of a separation.

I'm not suprised at all: first, it's a power budget (TDP) limitation and second of course is bandwith - DDR4-2400 is an obvious bottleneck for stronger IGP of 2700U.
Most probably, we will see similar picture in desktop - IGP of 2400G would be circa 15 percent faster than 2200G.
 
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Gideon

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Didn't seem to be that much difference between the 2500U and the 2700U as far as gaming.
I was expecting more of a separation.
The Acer also seems to be much more thermally limited, as it sometimes scores less than the Envy (which considering the specs should never be the case, with all else being equal)

two examples, from here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlrWe34zFUM





The funny thing is, that the Acer actually is bigger (according to the reviewer) therefore should have more headroom.

But I wouldn't really read too much into it. According to Lisa Su's interview, these first Raven Ridge laptops were all "pipeline cleaning" designs anyway ...

I believe that not every partner will go extreme on 25x20, but we will get a couple of partners to really take advantage of those capabilities. In some sense it is on us to show them what we are capable. The Raven Ridge/Ryzen Mobile design was sort of like the first step, but we are nowhere near done with everything that can be done, so you are going to see that power profile get better and better as new systems come out. So yes, I am very optimistic about the whole, like I said, I am simply amazed with some of the things that you can do, or we can do with in partnership with the OEMs.
and
Q15: Do you feel like OEM partners are listening to guidance when it comes to system design?

LS: They are much more engaged than they have been in the past and frankly, we are also in their labs. We have a number field application engineers in their labs helping them to optimize their systems.
and
Q20: One of the things we found with previous mobile AMD launches was that the reference designs were not that great, and were built to a price point rather than trying to showcase the best of the platform. Did that change with Ryzen Mobile?

LS: I think it’s gotten better. If you take a look at the first couple of [Ryzen Mobile] platforms, I think they are better, and I still think that there is room for the platforms to be an even better showcase of the products. I would say that the OEMs are, in some sense, surprised with how good Ryzen Mobile is and from the expansion of the capability. I would say that the first couple of platforms were there to clean the pipeline a little bit and what you’ll see in 2018 is a much broader set of platforms including the commercial platforms.
(Ian's questions in italic, emphasis mine)

I expect much more from the platforms launching later, where AMDs employees have worked together with OEMs to fine-tune and actually design laptops for Raven Ridge from ground up.
 
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LTC8K6

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I'm not suprised at all: first, it's a power budget (TDP) limitation and second of course is bandwith - DDR4-2400 is an obvious bottleneck for stronger IGP of 2700U.
Most probably, we will see similar picture in desktop - IGP of 2400G would be circa 15 percent faster than 2200G.
Why couldn't they use faster ram to see what the results are?
 

ahimsa42

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looking to replace my 6+ year old laptop so am wondering if there is a release date for the r3 2300u. i certainly hope that we see some more mobile ryzen laptops from other vendors soon-i'm not too impressed with the acer or hp options currently available and would like to see what a company like asus would offer.
 

Blitzvogel

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looking to replace my 6+ year old laptop so am wondering if there is a release date for the r3 2300u. i certainly hope that we see some more mobile ryzen laptops from other vendors soon-i'm not too impressed with the acer or hp options currently available and would like to see what a company like asus would offer.

Best Buy is selling a 13" Dell 2-in-1 at $700 with the Ryzen 5 2500U, 8GB DDR4-2400, 256GB SSD, and 1080p screen. It's a pretty tempting purchase.
 
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realibrad

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I would love to see this get put in something like an NUC and for the chips to get some updated drivers. Would go perfect for my HTPC setup.
 
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