AMD - Less then impressed...

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SDTom

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When clocking on that board, go easy on the FSB take baby steps up in speed untill you find the limit on yours. Chances are that it will be less than the 110 buss.

Asus does not have a clear CMOS jumper on that board. What they have are 2 solder points on the board, two little solder bumps. You can short them with a flat blade screw driver, or as was suggested, just pull the battery for a few min.
Remember to shut off and unplug the computer first.

In the future, try and refrain from blaming hardware for your lack of knowledge.

Tom
 
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ya sounds like if you reset cmost then youll be fine
you should be getting a blank screen and no beeps if its a prob w/ the processor/mobo
 

IaPuP

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I wanted to comment to JeffG that you're NOT CRAZY for thinking that the L1 bridges were connected by default.

Many Durons ship like that...

OTHER people here are showing THEIR lack of knowledge on the subject in bitching at you.
Just take it baby steps on the FSB speeds. The KT133 and AMD750 are really bad FSB overclockers. It's best if you only use the FSB to fine-tune your desired speeds when you want finer granularity than the 0.5x multiplier steps can give.

Eric
erichagen@bxboards.com
 

UCBPride

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RESET THE BIO!!!!!!!! Theres a jumper switch on your bio to do so. Just put a jumper on and press the power. Dont worry if it doesnt power on, thats normal. Then take the jumper out and press power again. btw THis is YOUR fault, dont blame AMD for YOUR mistakes.
 

JeffG

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Sorry for my "lack of knowledge"....

Per the article on this site:

"Unfortunately, one big downside of the VIA KT133 chipset was that overclocking the front side bus (FSB) was simply not effective since, in most cases, it would not run any faster than 110MHz, a mere 10% overclock."

Guess I thought with the hardware I chose that I would fall somewhere within the "most cases".

I also thought that should I NOT fall within "most cases" that it would be a simple matter to change the BIOS back to the factory default, and life would go on. I certainly never expected to fry the CPU, or entirely lock the system up so bad I couldn't get back out of the situation. While OC'ing may have it's hazards, typically I equate those to doing something way out on the fringe, or lack of cooling, and everything I read did not indicate that anything I planned would be extreme.

It seems that resetting the board is more of an issue with ASUS then AMD, if indeed the CPU survived. Still it doesn't seem to live up to the many adjustments I have been able to make with all of my Celeron systems, and a single PII that I've overclocked at work. Again though, this could be ASUS.

As far as researching the situation before attempting the new parameters, that's how I came to purchase the conductive ink pen. I really did not expect to get into a hairy situation unless I had to unlock the CPU. The jury was still out as to whether I would attempt this anyway, as the Duron 750's performance may have been enough to satisfy me, especially with the new vid card. Again the bridges looked to be connected underneath an admittedly weak magnifying glass, and I figured the locked/unlocked status would be revealed fairly quickly when I tried to change the settings the first time.

Thanks for all the suggestions, I think that most likely the CPU has survived, and I'll follow up here with the results of my attempts to reset the board.
 

RoboTECH

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Jeff, the reason you got no boot is because you tried to boot with the wrong multiplier selected. Your Duron's bridges were NOT locked, and when you try to boot up with the multiplier set "incorrectly", you will not post.

You need to do the stupid Asus BIOS reset trick and start over.
and change the title of the thread, please. Just go back to your first post and edit it.

good luck.
 

Dennis Travis

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Jeff, on that new manual you downloaded try Page 57 toward the bottom. It shows how and the location of the Bios Clear Jumper points on the board. You will have to use a Long Nose pliers or something like that to short the two points. I am viewing the manual in Adobe Acrobat reader. It also says after you short the traces you have to then power on and hold the "DELete" Key. It's all on page 57.

Hope this helps.
 

Sugadaddy

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Oh boy...:disgust:

It's not an issue with Asus either, all motherboards will most likely do this. And I guarantee you your CPU isn't fried either. Try what all the good people have suggested (which is the same thing, CLEAR CMOS), and if it's too complicated, stick with Intel.
 

tom3

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<< I also thought that should I NOT fall within &quot;most cases&quot; that it would be a simple matter to change the BIOS back to the factory default, and life would go on. >>



Like everyone has been saying, when you overclock the CPU too much that it fails to POST, you just need to clear the CMOS (change the BIOS back to the factory default). Then life would go on.

This is not only true to AMD set-ups, it's true to your celeron and PII too. Try changing the FSB on your celeron to 133 or something unrealistic. Your system will fail to post, just like you are experiencing right now with the AMD combo. What do you do then?? reset the CMOS...

You have not fried your chip, I believe you can only fry it if you up the voltage too much or inadequate cooling.
 

Dennis Travis

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There is nothing wrong with Asus boards. The only thing that is harder is that dang jumper is not really a jumper but two solder pads on the board that you have to short out. True it's harder than some other boards with a real jumper over two pins but it's there none the less and works the same way. It's not an Athlon issue either. If one reads here on this and other fourms overclocking an AMD CPU has been discussed over and over again. It's different with AMD than Intel and you have to unlock the multiplier. Durons do not come from the factory UnLocked. Once that is done you can play with the FSB and get a nice overclock.

 
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