AMD Richland avaiable at Newegg

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VirtualLarry

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So, Richland, or Haswell, for a mini-ITX box?

Not much gaming, mostly web browsing, Skype, and some distributed computing. Haswell (quad-cores) have AVX2, but Richland has a (GCN?) IGP, which can be used by some distributed-computing programs using OpenCL drivers TODAY, not having to wait like AVX2 support.

Plus, I run FDE, so AES support would be nice.
 

mrmt

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Not much gaming, mostly web browsing, Skype, and some distributed computing. Haswell (quad-cores) have AVX2, but Richland has a (GCN?) IGP, which can be used by some distributed-computing programs using OpenCL drivers TODAY, not having to wait like AVX2 support.

Haswell is competitive with OpenCL too, and you won't have to deal with AMD anemic CPU. If you can afford, you should go with Haswell.
 

absolutezero

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So, Richland, or Haswell, for a mini-ITX box?

Not much gaming, mostly web browsing, Skype, and some distributed computing. Haswell (quad-cores) have AVX2, but Richland has a (GCN?) IGP, which can be used by some distributed-computing programs using OpenCL drivers TODAY, not having to wait like AVX2 support.

Plus, I run FDE, so AES support would be nice.

Haswell if you are willing to shell out several hundred more. Theres really no noticeable difference between the two while browsing
 

NTMBK

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So, Richland, or Haswell, for a mini-ITX box?

Not much gaming, mostly web browsing, Skype, and some distributed computing. Haswell (quad-cores) have AVX2, but Richland has a (GCN?) IGP, which can be used by some distributed-computing programs using OpenCL drivers TODAY, not having to wait like AVX2 support.

Plus, I run FDE, so AES support would be nice.

There is always the Intel CPU OpenCL driver- which includes support for AVX2 and FMA3.
 

Centauri

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It's newegg, they price gouge on new releases.

No, they don't. Trinity in particular was as cheap at NewEgg as it was anywhere else, plus there were plenty of combo discounts available.

I got mine on launch day for $119 after combo with a cheap mobo.
 

pcsavvy

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Microcenter has the A10-6800K sale price $139 and get $30 off the FM2 motherboard combo. Some mItx boards are included in the list of boards.
With this combo you can get a high end apu and m/b for just under $200. Not bad when considering what Intel with the same performance will cost you.

Microcenter has the A10-6800K as coming soon in its latest catalog.
 

Kallogan

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A10-6800K and A10-6700 available and in stock in France. Both at 144,90 euros.

A10-5800K and A10-5700 were priced at 114,90.

I need reviews.
 

TREX-HUNTER

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So now that's Richland is in the house... how's this for a new build?

i3-3225 (HD4000) + GA-H77 (mITX)
vs.
A10-6700 + Asrock FM2A85X-ITX (mITX)

Same TDP and almost the same price (England, UK).

Trinity had a poor'er' single threaded performance, but the speed bump should make this more interesting.

The rig will be used by a technophobe couple who upgrade in a 5 yearly cycle (if that). So mainly office based products, surfing, some movies, etc.
 

R0H1T

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So now that's Richland is in the house... how's this for a new build?

i3-3225 (HD4000) + GA-H77 (mITX)
vs.
A10-6700 + Asrock FM2A85X-ITX (mITX)

Same TDP and almost the same price (England, UK).

Trinity had a poor'er' single threaded performance, but the speed bump should make this more interesting.

The rig will be used by a technophobe couple who upgrade in a 5 yearly cycle (if that). So mainly office based products, surfing, some movies, etc.
As compared to the older i3 you'll get better CPU performance, less for ST tasks, & definitely much better IGP so AMD all the way IMO :thumbsup:
 

strata8

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So now that's Richland is in the house... how's this for a new build?

i3-3225 (HD4000) + GA-H77 (mITX)
vs.
A10-6700 + Asrock FM2A85X-ITX (mITX)

Same TDP and almost the same price (England, UK).

Trinity had a poor'er' single threaded performance, but the speed bump should make this more interesting.

The rig will be used by a technophobe couple who upgrade in a 5 yearly cycle (if that). So mainly office based products, surfing, some movies, etc.

How soon do you need it? Kabini mITX boards will be coming out soon and the top model should beat Richland in terms of performance/watt and cost to performance ratio. 50-60% of the power (across the board, CPU + GPU) for 1/3 the power consumption and nearly 1/3 the price.
 

inf64

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I hear that Richland should OC better than Trinity .

edit:
"Old" review of 6800K by Zol. This user measured up to 47W (!) lower system power draw of 6800K vs 5800K under same workloads while iGPU in 6800K was even OCed.Take it with a grain of salt of course:
Zol review Gtranslated said:
180w even as much, but also lower than 5800K That 227w 47w, or low.
Yes, these are all my super 1200 GPU under test, not the default, the default will be much lower than this, we can rest assured. 4.4G 844MHz/2400MHz default under, 3DMARK11 the Combine Test with only 150w, not high

Google translated summary:
Do some summary, and I measured A8-6600K results were almost identical. Although almost no performance enhancing, but the power consumption, heat, including overclocking, Richland's performance is very good, not at all the kind of goods than the Trinity, she says. First, power consumption down, the temperature drop. I remember some time ago, I wonder if some time ago, and now, ZOL in AMD A10 forum also complained temperature, although Trinity's original radiator very dregs, but the temperature of the A10 is indeed too high. VLIW4 Although it is one thing, but this is not a high temperature of the culprit. The so-called second-generation AMD APU Trinity temperature and significantly higher than the generation of high-power, although the performance is great progress, but the temperature is the greatest criticism. Richland even completely get rid of! I am very satisfied with this Trinity2.0 version of APU Richland, I can responsibly say, Richland is the real meaning, the perfect second generation APU! ! !
 
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Meekers

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So now that's Richland is in the house... how's this for a new build?

i3-3225 (HD4000) + GA-H77 (mITX)
vs.
A10-6700 + Asrock FM2A85X-ITX (mITX)

Same TDP and almost the same price (England, UK).

Trinity had a poor'er' single threaded performance, but the speed bump should make this more interesting.

The rig will be used by a technophobe couple who upgrade in a 5 yearly cycle (if that). So mainly office based products, surfing, some movies, etc.

This is the exact question I have for the same reason. Building my dad a new computer and those are the 2 cpus I am considering. Would love to see some reviews. He is upgrading from a 7 year old turion laptop, so he will be amazed either way.
 

TREX-HUNTER

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How soon do you need it? Kabini mITX boards will be coming out soon...
Well, I am expected to finalize the build by end of June. I was hoping the Haswell launch would clear the picture and perhaps drop the i3-3225 price.
It has cleared the picture (no Haswell build), however it hasn't dropped the IVB prices .... yet.
The problem with Kabini is: whilst it may provide better performance/watt; I do wonder if the absolute raw performance is good enough.... it is a mobile part after all, no?
As it stands, I'm extremely comfortable with a Richland build and waiting for the reviews to confirm my thoughts on this. The rest of the build (posted prior to Haswell), hasn't really changed much, this is how it stands:
Noctua NH-L9a
Asrock FM2A85X-ITX
SanDisk 120GB Extreme II
Seagate 1TB Barracuda
Crucial 8GB DDR3 Ballistix
BitFenix Prodigy
Be Quiet Pure Power L8 430W*
Microsoft Windows 8
 

strata8

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This is the exact question I have for the same reason. Building my dad a new computer and those are the 2 cpus I am considering. Would love to see some reviews. He is upgrading from a 7 year old turion laptop, so he will be amazed either way.

On the performance side Richland is just a clock bump so it's pretty easy to estimate. Here's my reckoning:

15% single thread perf. advantage for i3-3225
8% multi thread perf. advantage for A10-6700
50% GPU perf. advantage for A10-6700
 

Meekers

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On the performance side Richland is just a clock bump so it's pretty easy to estimate. Here's my reckoning:

15% single thread perf. advantage for i3-3225
8% multi thread perf. advantage for A10-6700
50% GPU perf. advantage for A10-6700

Since he is not doing anything more video demanding than youtube he will basically not be able to tell the difference between the two while browsing the web and using Office. If that is the case my personal philosophy is tie goes to AMD.
 

inf64

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Cat-the-fifth at hexus has found a Thai review of 6800K .
This thing does 5Ghz on air cooling, that's a big step up from average Trinity OC. For comparison, ,my 750K can't do more than 4.4Ghz @ 1.52V (and 5800K can get to ~4.5Ghz-4.6Ghz tops with excess Vcore and awesome cooling). This thing does 5Ghz with 1.46V which is much better. AMD has done a good job optimizing Trinity die for clock and power. Worthy of mentioning is the NB OC to 2.5Ghz and the iGPU OC to 1200Mhz, whole 42% over stock. With such an overclock this chip , provided you have good ram modules that can go above 2100Mhz, is going to rival some lower end discrete GPUs out there .
 
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TREX-HUNTER

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Cat-the-fifth at hexus has found a Thai review of 6800K .
This thing does 5Ghz on air cooling, that's a big step up from average Trinity OC. .
Holy smokes
And AMD had us thinking that Richland is a "speed bump" to Trinity.... You'd think Richland would have maxed out its performance at G-Foundries!!
If this was my build I'd have contemplated something more sinister than the innocent Noctua NH-L9a.... but for day to day use I think 3.7Ghz stock to 4.3Ghz turbo will suffice!!
 
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