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imported_jjj

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The consumers just eat up Ryzen but it seems the suppliers can't handle the demand, the entire launch is very resistive from the industry as a whole. Motherboard shortages, RAM prices, AM4 Adapter shipments, Pre-Order mishaps.

I'll be letting out a HUGE sigh of relief when I get my Motherboard & Corsair AM4 Bracket and get the system up and running. I'll keep it at stock 2400 mem clocks until BIOS matures.

It will be interesting when Ryzen 5 & 3 launch, can the rest of the industry handle the second wave?

RAM prices have no relation to Ryzen yet but if Ryzen sells very well,it will have an impact, Prices will keep going up anyway but Ryzen could give them another boost.
Mobo makers will be more than happy to deliver as their sales have been declining year after year. The mobo shortages could be on AMD delivering the chipsets late but ,if that's the case, it shouldn't last.
 

fleshconsumed

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The consumers just eat up Ryzen but it seems the suppliers can't handle the demand, the entire launch is very resistive from the industry as a whole. Motherboard shortages, RAM prices, AM4 Adapter shipments, Pre-Order mishaps.

I'll be letting out a HUGE sigh of relief when I get my Motherboard & Corsair AM4 Bracket and get the system up and running. I'll keep it at stock 2400 mem clocks until BIOS matures.

It will be interesting when Ryzen 5 & 3 launch, can the rest of the industry handle the second wave?
Yeah, motherboard manufacturers did not anticipate demand. However, I think it's more indicative of really really low sales expectations rather than Ryzen selling like hotcakes. If you look at ebay auctions from monoprice and geekdeal that sell 1700x for $370-380 ($340 if you're lucky to get 10% ebay bucks promo) and no tax, they didn't sell all that many. Currently Geekdeal only sold 13 CPUs and the deal has been posted to slickdeals and other deal sites. 13. THIRTEEN. Monoprice if I remember correctly sold less than 100 CPUs before the deal expired. This is just my opinion, but if Ryzen was selling like hotcackes everybody would be jumping on a chance to buy 1700x at 10-20% off retail a week after launch, we would have seen a lot more sales than these ebay auctions show, and yet the sales are really lackluster.
 

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Yeah, motherboard manufacturers did not anticipate demand. However, I think it's more indicative of really really low sales expectations rather than Ryzen selling like hotcakes. If you look at ebay auctions from monoprice and geekdeal that sell 1700x for $370-380 ($340 if you're lucky to get 10% ebay bucks promo) and no tax, they didn't sell all that many. Currently Geekdeal only sold 13 CPUs and the deal has been posted to slickdeals and other deal sites. 13. THIRTEEN. Monoprice if I remember correctly sold less than 100 CPUs before the deal expired. This is just my opinion, but if Ryzen was selling like hotcackes everybody would be jumping on a chance to buy 1700x at 10-20% off retail a week after launch, we would have seen a lot more sales than these ebay auctions show, and yet the sales are really lackluster.

I saw the 1700 deal from Geekdeal last night before I went to bed. It sold 73+ and I think it said "almost gone". They probably sold ~100 of the 1700 alone. The 1700X was not nearly as popular.

However, with motherboards (X370 in particular) in short supply, that's the limiting factor right now.
 

Markfw

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Yea, same here, this will be desktop#16(I already have 5 laptops also), and I don't need it at all, I just want to play with new hardware so I can speak from personal experience while posting.
 

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R7 1700 @ max oc on stock volts (not found yet) currently at 3.4 all core, Wraith cooler , Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3, 16GB CL15 3000, R9 290.

Running in parallel with the 4790K system, not sure if I will migrate to an X370 board in a few months.
 

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Basically they sold more motherboards than they knew they had, in order to lock people into a purchase contract. It's a dick move, but one many places do. So you'll get your board, but you'll be in a queue of people waiting for the next shipping batch.
Newegg don't really do that. In fact during all this Ryzen craziness I had a few times where going from adding to cart to trying to purchase they removed it from the cart automatically because stock was gone. They don't allocate stock that's in cart so if you do it fast enough you can purchase something that's not in stock.
 

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This is just my opinion, but if Ryzen was selling like hotcackes everybody would be jumping on a chance to buy 1700x at 10-20% off retail a week after launch, we would have seen a lot more sales than these ebay auctions show, and yet the sales are really lackluster.
Or the fact that a lot of people, like myself, don't go to eBay to buy new goods.
 

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If anyone needs/wants lots of RAM, I have found this deal:

HyperX Predator Black 64GB Kit DDR4 3000MHz CL15 (HX430C15PB3K4/64)

Only for Prime members.. 64 GB of DDR4-3000/CL15 for $400 is a very good price considering current 16 GB kit (2 x 8 GB) prices.

Edit: It appears these sticks are dual-rank sticks, which have a disadvantage in clocking in comparison to single-rank sticks, but single-rank 16 GB sticks are probably difficult to find. Most of them appear ECC RAM.
 
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Markfw

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newegg is shipping my 1800x today, and its IN STOCK at the moment.

now if I could only find a dang motherboard somewhere (the one I want, the ASRock Taichi)
 
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Magic Hate Ball

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Does anyone have an Asrock Taichi X370 in hand besides me at the moment?

I can't seem to find anywhere in the BIOS to disable SMT for some testing I want to do...
 

DisEnchantment

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I have pulled the trigger, save me

I had to split the orders between Amazon.de and mindfactory.de

550 Watt Corsair CS Series CS550M Modular
16GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR4-3200 DIMM CL15 Dual Kit
8GB XFX Radeon RX 480 GTR Aktiv PCIe 3.0 x16 (Retail)
500GB Samsung 960 Evo M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 3.0 x4 32Gb/s 3D-NAND TLC Toggle (MZ-V6E500BW)
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X 8x 3.40GHz So.AM4 WOF
Asus Prime B350-Plus AMD B350 So.AM4 Dual Channel DDR4 ATX Retail

Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4 Premium Low-Profile CPU Kühler für AMD AM4
Windows 10 Home 32/64 Bit USB Flash Drive

I cannot find any other board other than this one

How do I get the installation from USB stick?
Once I get my system running how I do I post pictures here

I am taking leave on Friday to set up my system
 
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unseenmorbidity

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Does anyone have an Asrock Taichi X370 in hand besides me at the moment?

I can't seem to find anywhere in the BIOS to disable SMT for some testing I want to do...
Ohh lucky. Let us know how it goes.

As far as your question, idk. I am pretty sure it isn't in the ryzen master settings though.
 

guskline

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DooKey, we have the same motherboard and nearly the same cpu but you spank me with that TitanXP

I decided to keep my 1800XP stock especially with this motherboard though I'm running the DDR4-3200 ram at 2666 speed after enabling the D.O.C.P feature in the bios.
This Asus Prime B350 Plus limits the second RX480 to 4x while the first runs at 8x. I ultimately will buy a high end X370 chipset mb when they become available

The Prime B350 Plus uses a Realtek NIC instead of an Intel one so network speed suffers a bit.

All in all it was a relatively inexpensive way for me to run my 1800x and still have CF on my AMD gpus.
 

DooKey

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I have pulled the trigger, save me

I had to split the orders between Amazon.de and mindfactory.de

550 Watt Corsair CS Series CS550M Modular
16GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR4-3200 DIMM CL15 Dual Kit
8GB XFX Radeon RX 480 GTR Aktiv PCIe 3.0 x16 (Retail)
500GB Samsung 960 Evo M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 3.0 x4 32Gb/s 3D-NAND TLC Toggle (MZ-V6E500BW)
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X 8x 3.40GHz So.AM4 WOF
Asus Prime B350-Plus AMD B350 So.AM4 Dual Channel DDR4 ATX Retail

Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4 Premium Low-Profile CPU Kühler für AMD AM4
Windows 10 Home 32/64 Bit USB Flash Drive

I cannot find any other board other than this one

How do I get the installation from USB stick?
Once I get my system running how I do I post pictures here

I am taking leave on Friday to set up my system

I'm very pleased with my B350-Plus. Only regret is it only has 3 fan connections onboard. Check my sig for overclock with this board.
 
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DisEnchantment

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Are there BIOS updates for the B350-Plus?
I just read some issues with the Trident Z kit, is this true?
I am worried ...
@DooKey You have same kit?
 

DooKey

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Are there BIOS updates for the B350-Plus?
I just read some issues with the Trident Z kit, is this true?
I am worried ...

All the boards are having RAM problems. There is a 2-28 BIOS update that supposedly increase memory compatibility.
 

Markfw

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BTW, my Corsair H100i should be shipping today. I talk with their tech support. If you go to corsair.com/ryzen scroll down, and it lists the ones compatible out of the box and the ones not Most interesting is the new H100i V2 is NOT, but the old one is..
If yours is NOT compatible, register on their site, then put the AM4 bracket in your shopping cart, then enter the code they gave you one that first screen, and it will all be FREE, the bracket and the shipping.

Edit, and the ASRock Taichi motherboard is estimated at Amazon to come in on the 14th. Maybe Newegg will get them the same day ? Thats my last piece, the rest will be here by Sat.
 

guskline

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mDisEnchantment, relax. The Asus Prime B350 Plus most recent BIOS, 0503, available on the website and released 2-28-17 helps memory compatability. My set of Gskill DDR4-3200 Trident Z CL16 ram (2 sticks of 8G each) runs at auto at 2133, but I can jump it to 2666 STABLE on this BIOS, by merely chosing in the BIOS under advanced the Dram choice and changing from Auto to D.O.C.P. which will set the parameters and all the timing. Then set your ram speed at 2666 and see if it boots. It will up the ram voltage from 1.2 to 1.35.

I decided to stop at 2666 for now. Tried 2933 but had trouble booting in. Just going from 2133 to 2666, my Aida64 Memory read and right scores jumped from slightly over 30,000 to @40,000!

If you have other problems with the board just PM me. I'll try to help you. I bought mine late Saturday afternoon at the MicroCenter in St. David's PA and pulled an "all niter" with the setup. Had trouble with my EK water block so I went back to my trust Corsair H110i GT which is working great. The 480PCIe NVMe M.2 2280 ssd is blistering fast and the windows setup (I also used the Windows 10 32/64 USB stick) was incredibly fast.
 

guskline

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Markfw, my Corsair H110i GT uses the AMD bracket that has hooks on each side that attaches to the mounts already on the MB.
 
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Markfw

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DisEnchantment

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I forgot Thermal Paste, does the Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4 Premium Low-Profile CPU Kühler für AMD AM4 come with Thermal Paste?

edit:
Sorry I was paranoid, it comes with paste . I was planning on getting a day off, some beer and building my rig
  • Inklusive Low-Noise Adapter und renommierter NT-H1 Wärmeleitpaste
 
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