AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

[unseenmorbidity]

I tried that, power unplugged, no change. Uploading the new bios seemed to resolve this.

Resetting defaults might have worked. idk

 

[Markfw]

Resetting defaults might have worked. idk

I tried resetting defaults, I saved, powered off, I tried all the normal tricks. It was a beta bios.

 

[guachi]

A couple A320 based mobos announced
http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-A320-DS3-rev-10#kf
http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-A320M-HD2-rev-10#kf

Also spotted a MSI A320 mobo listed on Newegg with a funny name -Pro VD
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7HN5HW5934

I have a micro-ATX HTPC I have that's soldiering on with a PIIx2 chip. I'm intrigued by the cheaper A320M board compared with a B350 as there would be zero overclocking. The features look fine on the Gigabyte and I can use the HDMI for audio and ignore the mediocre onboard audio if I need to.

Hope the micro-ATX A320 boards come in at around $60. That's be a steal!

 

[DrMrLordX]

according to the specification on your MSI 390 Gaming it's 51mm, one of my cards are 36mm. do you think 15mm less is enough to make room for a third GPU?

I wouldn't count on it. The distance between GPU slot #2 and the 4x slot is not that great.

I tried resetting defaults, I saved, powered off, I tried all the normal tricks. It was a beta bios.

Hmm, that's fishy.

First off, you're only going to get a reboot message when changing RAM speed/timings. If you change CPU speed or CPU voltage, it does not require a reboot. I have not had any circumstance yet on my ASRock board where changes made to clockspeed were not applied correctly. Almost makes me wonder if HPET got disabled somehow? I would think Ryzen Master would gripe about that.

I HAVE had some odd issues after OC failures, and I have found a possible negative interaction between Ryzen Master and Sapphire TRIXX. But nothing along the lines of what you describe.

 

[Zstream]

I wouldn't count on it. The distance between GPU slot #2 and the 4x slot is not that great.



Hmm, that's fishy.

First off, you're only going to get a reboot message when changing RAM speed/timings. If you change CPU speed or CPU voltage, it does not require a reboot. I have not had any circumstance yet on my ASRock board where changes made to clockspeed were not applied correctly. Almost makes me wonder if HPET got disabled somehow? I would think Ryzen Master would gripe about that.

I HAVE had some odd issues after OC failures, and I have found a possible negative interaction between Ryzen Master and Sapphire TRIXX. But nothing along the lines of what you describe.

I've noticed on the MSI board, once the board fails to boot and you go back into the bios, the setting behave weirdly. The ram settings especially behave oddly.

 

[Markfw]

I wouldn't count on it. The distance between GPU slot #2 and the 4x slot is not that great.



Hmm, that's fishy.

First off, you're only going to get a reboot message when changing RAM speed/timings. If you change CPU speed or CPU voltage, it does not require a reboot. I have not had any circumstance yet on my ASRock board where changes made to clockspeed were not applied correctly. Almost makes me wonder if HPET got disabled somehow? I would think Ryzen Master would gripe about that.

I HAVE had some odd issues after OC failures, and I have found a possible negative interaction between Ryzen Master and Sapphire TRIXX. But nothing along the lines of what you describe.

You are right its fishy, I was verifying with task manager, and the speed did not change. And 3.2 ? that not even stock. Until I did the bios, it was odd. BTW, ASRock pulleed the 1.43 beta, not on their site asnymore, they have older and newer and non-beta, but that one was gone, and that was what I was running.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Probably a reason why they pulled it. Probably multiple reasons. I'd go with the newer UEFI in your position.

btw ASRock released the last UEFI update for my board 12 days ago. No new UEFI with the updated AGESA code. Boo! There are a lot of things to improve with the UEFI, ASRock. Get on it please!

(there are disadvantages to being one of less than a thousand people in NA to have this board)

 

[EXCellR8]

ugh, cataclysmic cooling system failure on final loop test... more intense pressure. I think one of the reservoir seals is junk.

INCONVENIENT!

 

[guskline]

ugh, cataclysmic cooling system failure on final loop test... more intense pressure. I think one of the reservoir seals is junk.

INCONVENIENT!

Ouch. Hope you get it fixed!

 

[EXCellR8]

well... spent half the day re-piping my loop and digging through fittings but it's finally done. ended up ditching the tube res for a 5.25" bay res and I actually like the look a bit better; it doesn't take up as much vertical space.

probably fire it up tomorrow at this point i'm beat. might be my most time consuming build ever...

 

[Kingbee13]

Probably a reason why they pulled it. Probably multiple reasons. I'd go with the newer UEFI in your position.

btw ASRock released the last UEFI update for my board 12 days ago. No new UEFI with the updated AGESA code. Boo! There are a lot of things to improve with the UEFI, ASRock. Get on it please!

(there are disadvantages to being one of less than a thousand people in NA to have this board)

They haven't updated any of thier boards in that long and before it was every other day. I'm hoping for a big release soon for my killer sli

 

[DrMrLordX]

They haven't updated any of thier boards in that long and before it was every other day. I'm hoping for a big release soon for my killer sli

Huh. Okay, guess I'm not alone then.

 

[Zstream]

So, until I get the desire to migrate all of my VM's, I'll let my Haswell box handle it. However, I just bought eVGA 3200 ram and I'm stuck on 2600 speeds. Is this ram decent or should I exchange it? http://www.microcenter.com/product/459742/16GB_2_x_8GB_DDR4-3200_PC4-25600_CL16_Desktop_Memory_Kit

Also, I was thinking about this CPU cooler, but it seems like the wraith is doing a decent job? http://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-c14s

I doubt the CPU cooler (blowing air down) is limiting my ram speeds, but it's annoying.

 

[Chiropteran]

My understand is it's a problem with the realtek port detection. My 64ohm headphones are properly detected as headphones, amplified and such the volume is plenty loud. With my headset plugged in, the realtek driver thinks it's just line out to another device or powered speakers, and no amplification occurs and volume is low. In theory, a different headset might be properly detected as headphones and work fine with full volume, but I'm not about to switch headsets.

Embarrassing truth discovered: my nice Sennheiser headset had a volume knob I was completely unaware of. I had been using it for the last 4 months without ever changing the volume. Oops.

With the headset volume turned to max, windows is loud enough around 60%, which leaves me some potential room to work with if I need to turn up a very quiet youtube video or something.

 

[Chiropteran]

Posted and got into windows with 3200 set for RAM. Trick was to downclock CL to 18. It doesn't seem completely stable, had a few application crashes, but this is progress.

 

[inf64]

Posted and got into windows with 3200 set for RAM. Trick was to downclock CL to 18. It doesn't seem completely stable, had a few application crashes, but this is progress.

Can you try 2T command rate?

 

[richierich1212]

Posted and got into windows with 3200 set for RAM. Trick was to downclock CL to 18. It doesn't seem completely stable, had a few application crashes, but this is progress.

2x16GB? Thats a good start.

 

[Chiropteran]

Can you try 2T command rate?

I don't see an option in the BIOS to change command rate.

That said, I loosened some of the other timings down to 16 clocks, and then my computer failed to post. Wouldn't revert after failing either, I had to reset the CMOS jumpter to get back into it. I think that is a sign that I should wait for the updated BIOS before playing around with such settings.

I might try the previous settings again with 1.4v to see if that is stable eventually, but I want full stability right now so I'm back to DDR2666 14CL for the time being.

 

[EXCellR8]

my build is up and running, but I got some seriously weird things happening...

updated BIOS as a first step and I got the board to POST at 3200mhz with stock timings. only happened once or twice though, and after POST not much else happened; i had to clear CMOS. my keyboard and mouse weren't working at all so i tried a different set and that worked fine. OS install was painful but I think there was a problem with my disk drive, it's from 2009. system froze on initial drivers installation which was odd but it worked the second try. temps and voltages all look perfect though, so I'm just in the process of downloading updates and migrating data. About to update the drivers for the RX 480 which could be interesting, but I'm thinking it should be okay. The card almost didn't fit in the case... but after some coaxing it was fine.

EDIT: pretty much broken computer... almost nothing working like it should lol

 

[David M.]

Hey everyone,

Just upgraded my FX-8320 to a Ryzen 7 1700. I got the ASRock AB350 Fatal1ty Gaming K4. I was able to reuse my AM3 clip cooler (Zalman quiet).

I bought some G Skill Ripjaws 4 DDR4 3000MHz before Ryzen even came out in anticipation of prices going up. I didn't expect all the memory challenges with Ryzen. I am able to get it at 2400MHz but no higher, although I haven't tried much. I'll just wait until the BIOS bugs get ironed out. To get 2400MHz I had to first set the timings manually to 14-14-14-34, save and restart, and then change the multiplier. If I did both at once it wouldn't work and would reset to 2133MHz. It's running now at 2400MHz, 12-12-12-32.

I tried a small bit of overclocking with Ryzen Master Utility. Very easy to get it to 3.7 by setting voltage to 1.2250. Getting to 3.8 without Cinebench crashing required a huge bump to 1.30625V. I haven't tried any higher and probably won't for a while due to rapidly diminishing returns. I'll probably just keep it stock for now, and bump it up to 3.7 whenever I need a bit more lightly threaded performance.

EVERYTHING is dramatically faster than my old FX. And I'm amazed at how cool it runs, too. My fans hardly have to run at all even when gaming now- I'm not used to that. I'm surprised that I can increase graphical settings in games because of the additional headroom I have now- I guess my old FX was actually holding me back and I never realized by how much. In Witcher 3 I used to really dip in FPS when I was in big towns, and always set my quality settings to ensure I got at least 55fps at that bottleneck. Now I get around 100fps in those big cities.

Overall I'm very pleased so far. I've been wanting to upgrade for a long time but haven't really had a strong need, and I was never planning to support Intel. If you're in a similar boat, I think you'll be very pleased with Ryzen.

 

[Markfw]

my build is up and running, but I got some seriously weird things happening...

updated BIOS as a first step and I got the board to POST at 3200mhz with stock timings. only happened once or twice though, and after POST not much else happened; i had to clear CMOS. my keyboard and mouse weren't working at all so i tried a different set and that worked fine. OS install was painful but I think there was a problem with my disk drive, it's from 2009. system froze on initial drivers installation which was odd but it worked the second try. temps and voltages all look perfect though, so I'm just in the process of downloading updates and migrating data. About to update the drivers for the RX 480 which could be interesting, but I'm thinking it should be okay. The card almost didn't fit in the case... but after some coaxing it was fine.

EDIT: pretty much broken computer... almost nothing working like it should lol

First, set your memory to run at 2666 but rated CL timings. Then see how everything works, and update drivers, etc.

Once you have a stable system, try 2933 and see how it goes. Very few people, regardless of the motherboard or memory are able to get 3200 on the memory stable.

 

[EXCellR8]

thanks for the tips... running a single DIMM right now and attempting drivers again.

 

[guachi]

Part of me wants to TOFTT and get the AMD Ryzen specific Flare X 3200 and see if it works in an approved motherboard (the Gaming 3 from Gigabyte). Both are, unfortunately, out of stock so I can't see if it's an improvement in compatibility and easy to set to 3200.

 

[alexruiz]

So, until I get the desire to migrate all of my VM's, I'll let my Haswell box handle it. However, I just bought eVGA 3200 ram and I'm stuck on 2600 speeds. Is this ram decent or should I exchange it? http://www.microcenter.com/product/459742/16GB_2_x_8GB_DDR4-3200_PC4-25600_CL16_Desktop_Memory_Kit

Also, I was thinking about this CPU cooler, but it seems like the wraith is doing a decent job? http://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-c14s

I doubt the CPU cooler (blowing air down) is limiting my ram speeds, but it's annoying.

I don't know about the 3200 speed version of that RAM, but the 3000 version is the most compatible DDR4 I have found for Ryzen so far.
Granted, not that I have tested a lot and lots of ram kits or lots of boards, but the eVGA 3000 is so far tops in my view.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/459741/16GB_2_x_8GB_DDR4-3000_(PC4-24000)_CL15_Desktop_Memory_Kit

 

[Zstream]

I don't know about the 3200 speed version of that RAM, but the 3000 version is the most compatible DDR4 I have found for Ryzen so far.
Granted, not that I have tested a lot and lots of ram kits or lots of boards, but the eVGA 3000 is so far tops in my view.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/459741/16GB_2_x_8GB_DDR4-3000_(PC4-24000)_CL15_Desktop_Memory_Kit

Is there a way to compare and see if they are the same chips used?