I went with the 3200CL14 Trident Z. Even if I need to lower the clock (until the updates arrive) these should be able to make up for it timing wise. I'm going to try to go with the default 3200CL14 from the beginning of course
That's interesting. Not really surprising - there's only so much that can be done at once for a hard launch of a brand-new platform - but good to know they expect improvements with future updates. Not that I was planning on exceeding 3000MHz or using more than 2 DIMMs anyhow, but more information is always better.
Those of you who have pre-ordered: given that there are no manuals, QVLs or detailed specs available for the motherboards that we know of, what has been your reasoning around RAM? I'm waiting on reviews, ITX boards and more info on Ryzen 5 before ordering anything, but I'm considering ordering a 2x8GB set of RAM to preempt price spikes and any shortages that might occur due to Ryzen-launch demand.
I'm leaning towards G.Skill TridentZ, either 3000 C15 or 3000 C14, but the price jump to 3200 C14 isn't too awful - it's just that it's out of stock. What would you choose? Based on what I've read about previous architectures I'm not too concerned about getting high-speed RAM, but I've read enough confusing stuff about Ryzen and RAM to have become very unsure.
Yeah, I know, there are just so many people saying all kinds of confusing stuff about Ryzen and RAM ("Ryzen needs high performance RAM to truly perform!" "Ryzen can't run RAM higher than 3200GT/s!" and all kinds of other stuff). If the info about not-quite-stable memory controllers turns out to be true, I'm wary of buying without seeing a QVL. On the other hand, RAM is RAM, no? Everything should work at JEDEC specs, no matter what, from what I understand ...It doesn't really matter what RAM you buy. As long as it's decent quality, it will work fine. Higher clocked RAM with higher latencies can be downclocked and the latancies can be lowered to compensate for the lower clock speed.
You don't really need that QVL to know that whether you'll be able to run that high performance RAM kit at 3XXX+ speed or not, you can always clock it a bit lower and adjust timings to get same latency. You don't necessarily have to buy that super 3600+ kit but you really shouldn't buy a 2133 CL15 or 2400 CL17 kit either, not when something like 3000 CL15 / 3200 CL16 is probably really close in price and offers most of the performance boost. ( and in case you any any issues with 3000+, you can always downclock to 2800 CL14 or 2600 CL13)If the info about not-quite-stable memory controllers turns out to be true, I'm wary of buying without seeing a QVL.
Looks like Newegg is up to their usual price gouging. All of the RAM kits I was looking at are $20 more than they were pre-Ryzen reveal. Never using them again.
Any of you looking at Asrock boards they've updated their website for the AM4 series.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/index.us.asp#AM4
Newegg isn't price gouging. It's been known since October of last year that DDR4 is in high demand due to smartphones. That's the reason why I had to buy my DD4 sticks a couple of weeks ago. I knew I was going to build a Ryzen system even when ITX motherboards haven't even been released yet.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/ram-prices-are-increasing-until-third-quarter-2017/
That's interesting. Not really surprising - there's only so much that can be done at once for a hard launch of a brand-new platform - but good to know they expect improvements with future updates. Not that I was planning on exceeding 3000MHz or using more than 2 DIMMs anyhow, but more information is always better.
Those of you who have pre-ordered: given that there are no manuals, QVLs or detailed specs available for the motherboards that we know of, what has been your reasoning around RAM? I'm waiting on reviews, ITX boards and more info on Ryzen 5 before ordering anything, but I'm considering ordering a 2x8GB set of RAM to preempt price spikes and any shortages that might occur due to Ryzen-launch demand.
Related question: Was considering the ASUS mATX board but the 2666 cap on ram deterred me. Are you guys saying it will support 3200 after a while when new bioses come out?
Also, is it just me or do all the mATX offerings seem like trash? Realtek NICs on all of them and not a single one seems to have any advertised quality pieces? Should I just dump the waiting mATX case I have and go ATX this round?
It's probably limited by the B350 chipset. You'll have to wait for X300 mATX boards (I'm hoping for X370 in SFF but I doubt it).
Makes sense. Any word on when those are suppose to launch (guess no)? Getting kind of impatient haha...
Memory supply was tightened by the manufacturers. The demand didn't change. The kits were $149 for several months. Post Ryzen reveal they are $169. There is nothing to suggest that the current supply can't meet the increase in demand for Ryzen builds. Price gouging. It's not like Newegg hasn't done this in the past on many, many products.
Looks like Newegg is up to their usual price gouging. All of the RAM kits I was looking at are $20 more than they were pre-Ryzen reveal. Never using them again.
Any of you looking at Asrock boards they've updated their website for the AM4 series.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/index.us.asp#AM4
I received the first parts for the ryzen build today. As an aside the ram I bought packs a 25% premium over my purchase price from two days ago.
The S version has a huge cut out on the bottom edge of the fins to make room.Those are 44mm height modules so i guess the fan needs to be moved up on the D15.
I'm likely going with the D15 too but might get low profile RAM, will depend on final Ryzen details.
What mobo are you getting with the D15 and are you factoring in the placement of the M.2 slot?
I'm likely going with the D15 too but might get low profile RAM, will depend on final Ryzen details.
What mobo are you getting with the D15 and are you factoring in the placement of the M.2 slot?