AMD Split Rumors Accelerating

[Extelleron]

Originally posted by: AleleVanuatu
Hector is getting way too much flack for what is simply an outgrowth of what happens when you pay too much for too little. ATI is definitely on the ball, but has cost AMD an arm and a leg. We all know what happens when you start to run out of money, you scale back. And right now AMD is scaling back on marketing, not so much R&D (see their elite israeli CPU dev division -- top secret) but Intel is enjoying the crown for now. Maybe for another year or two, but hey, thats life.

Asset Smart will simply be a paper split. This will help them for financing, and then, you can forget about anyone buying out AMD, they will be back there competing.

AND PLEASE REALIZE, AMD's core business has never been x86. Historically. Look into it!

I don't know where you are getting that idea. Everything CPU that AMD sells for the desktop/notebooj market, from Geode to Phenom, is x86. The only processors not x86 compatible that AMD sells are those for the electronics division (part of ATI and now being sold) and GPUs. In fact if you look at the technical analyst day last year, when talking about Bobcat AMD made very clear that they wanted to bring x86 as the universal solution for all markets, the same idea that Intel has with Atom.

You can blame the purchase of ATI all you want, but right now AMD's GPUs are the best solution that the company offers. AMD's problem is that they haven't released a truly impressive CPU in five years. Other than increasing the amount of cores, AMD has increased performance-per-clock by around 15-20% in five years. It is hard to believe, but AMD's top processor in 2008 is the Phenom 9950 clocked at 2.6GHz, and 4 years ago it was the FX-55 clocked at 2.6GHz. In single-threaded performance, AMD has increased maybe ~20% in that 4 year timeframe. Compare that to what AMD had out in 1999 vs 2004...... K7 at 1GHz or so versus K8 at 2.6GHz. AMD got lazy, Phenom is not enough of an increase in performance and really we should have seen a minor upgrade like Phenom in the ~2005 timeframe.

 

[AleleVanuatu]

Historically. Please, darling, look into it! Not just the last 10-15 years!

AMD is a big bad old company. Not some newbie underdog!

 

[Extelleron]

Originally posted by: AleleVanuatu
Historically. Please, darling, look into it! Not just the last 10-15 years!

AMD is a big bad old company. Not some newbie underdog!

What AMD was doing 30 years ago has no relevance on today's business.

AMD has been supplying x86 processors for around 25 years now, pretty much since the beginning. First, just clones of Intel processors, and then eventually in-house developed chips starting with the K5. Other than flash memory, x86 CPUs have been AMD's primary business for a long time.

 

[AleleVanuatu]

Sure, just like the past never repeats itself.

Man, it really looks like the young are destined to repeat the same mistakes of the past. And I bet you just accept the 666 branding that the P3 chips did with CPUID? Or maybe product activation is more your style, and DRM too. PlaysForSure? LoL.

What I was pointing to, is that things are not what they seem. Too many young pups think that AMD is David vs Intel's Goliath.

Sure I hope AMD starts bringing some competition and brings the SMACKDOWN, but realize that this is because competition is GOOD for US! Not because AMD needs to be suckled and coddled and babies born and named Athlon.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: AleleVanuatu
AND PLEASE REALIZE, AMD's core business has never been x86. Historically. Look into it!

So first you say AMD's core business has never been x86.

Originally posted by: AleleVanuatu
Historically. Please, darling, look into it! Not just the last 10-15 years!

AMD is a big bad old company. Not some newbie underdog!

Now you want to exclude the fact that at least for the past 15yrs AMD's core business has in fact been x86.

Originally posted by: AleleVanuatu
Man, it really looks like the young are destined to repeat the same mistakes of the past. And I bet you just accept the 666 branding that the P3 chips did with CPUID? Or maybe product activation is more your style, and DRM too. PlaysForSure? LoL.

What I was pointing to, is that things are not what they seem. Too many young pups think that AMD is David vs Intel's Goliath.

And now you feel it necessary to paint this as a "oh yeah, well my opinion trumps yours because you are young and I am old, wah".

Now's the time to roll out the lolz. Things have been quiet around here for a while, looks like we got ourselves a real wild one back in the forums. I'll enjoy this for however long it lasts.

 

[OCGuy]

This is the same person telling us that dual-cores are worthless in another thread.........hmmmm.......

 

[Idontcare]

Yeah I hadn't realized what the deal was until I just saw nearly 100 posts in one day of joining the forums. We all know this persona, no point to wasting time on it till things shake out.