AMD to go Bye-Bye???

[Gog]

The Inquirer has an interesting article on how its possible that AMD will go the way of 3dfx in the upcoming years due to the recession we're in. This is actually based on the thoughts of some Gartner analyst.

I don't know how this guy comes to such a conclusion(even considering AMDs recent loses) considering the revolutionary chip AMD is about to release. Always the possiblity that the guy is in Intel's pocket, you never know...

 

[spanky]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[microAmp]

I doubt it, I remember before the Athlon rolled out AMD only had a small amount of money left before it hit zero, the Athlon pulled them out and hopefully the Hammer will too.

Plus I think Intel needs to keep them around to advoid any monopoly issues with the government but Intel doesn't want AMD to have the 20% or so market share, just less of it.

 

[passign]

hogwash

 

[NinjaGnome]

AMD isnt going anyhwere as long as the prices for top of the line intel chips is so high.

 

[teqwiz]

Cost effective solutions will always be a neccessity in everything. Intel may tout their FSB and CPU speeds, but enough is enough at some point. Unless you're me. Then never enough is always pretty dam close to simulating the nearness of apparent enoughness!

AMD has too good a product to just float away on the premise of faster is better for the Gamer/ Home user/ Internet surfiod. Well I'll concede Gamer. Work solutions are another story. There is a need for both for sure.

My system is the latest and almost greatest this month/ week/ day, and I'm pleased with it. The only upgrade I see in my near future is CPU. My last Game monster was an Alienware area 51. I loved that one for 2 years and I finally needed an upgrade. It still worked fine and is now a Global Catilogue server @ a friends house. Still got it. Barton will Be my next CPU for sure!

 

[KDOG]

It would be devastating to the PC market if AMD went under. Do you realize what would happen to mobo makers? We'd be back to $800 for the latest micro-incrementel increase in processor speed from Intel. The only other choice we'd have is VIA/Cyrix - eck.

 

[CrazySaint]

AMD isn't going anywhere, anytime soon. I don't put much stock in what the Inquirer says, or the Gartner Group, for that matter. Now, if the Hammer flops, then it may be time to get worried, but I doubt it will flop. Plus, the Hammer has the advantage fo being targeted for the high end and extremely lucrative server market, and its encouraging that nVidia is so interested in it for their servers (see AT's recent article, "Inside ATi and nVidia").

 

[Gog]

For AMD to succeed in the upcoming years its going to have to sell a hell of a lot of those Hammer chips, considering how much money it has been invested on it.

Unfortunately how many it sells will depend not only on how well the chip performs but also on whether or not AMD manages to get the likes of Dell to use them in their machines.

 

[MaverickAVA]

Originally posted by: NinjaGnome
AMD isnt going anyhwere as long as the prices for top of the line intel chips is so high.

I agree with you completely, not only does Intel's severely overpriced product line cause many to look to AMD for cost effective computing, but on a personal level, I think that AMD gives much more bang for the buck. I've never liked Intel?s hardware and AMD time and time again has proven to be the more reliable and affordable choice for people like me (your average Joe computer builder).

Yes, I'm quite a loyalist :-D I've got the AMD logo tattooed on my neck, I swear! *lol*

 

[CraigRT]

That would really suck a big fat NUT
however I really don't think a company, AMD's size, with an overall good rep. is going to go the way of the do-do any time in the near future.

 

[Swanny]

The company has been around for 30+ years, so I don't think it will go anywhere now. But it's always possible I suppose.

 

[Toxic]

Regardless of their money problems, the GOV likes other companies in the market. Worse case - AMD gets the Chrysler bail out or a large injection of cash through some multibillionaire. Wouldn't surprise me to see MS buying a share of the company.

I would have to agree though, that IF AMD goes the wayside, our mobo/cpu upgrades will slow down a bit. We've seen the way Intel does biz, and it sucks. You want an upgrade in speed? $300, and oh yeah.....it's only 3% faster. Thanks Intel, but no thanks.

On the other hand, perhaps it's time AMD make a bigger profit off of their cpu's. They can charge more and still be cheaper than Intel.
Regardless of what CPU you use, AMD has played a big part in what we are seeing AVAILABLE nowadays. If it was just intel, computers would still cost over $1000, and I seriously doubt we'd see the speeds of things nowadays.

I could be wrong, but I'm not

 

[CrazySaint]

Originally posted by: Gog
For AMD to succeed in the upcoming years its going to have to sell a hell of a lot of those Hammer chips, considering how much money it has been invested on it.

Unfortunately how many it sells will depend not only on how well the chip performs but also on whether or not AMD manages to get the likes of Dell to use them in their machines.

That's true, AMD seriously needs greater OEM support. I have heard that Dell is interested in using Opteron chips in some of their server lines, which could be a better fit for AMD than Dell's desktop lines since I'd imagine that they wouldn't be required to make chips available in the same quantities for a server line that they would for a desktop line (has always been one of AMDs liabilities).

 

[Jhill]

No one will be laughing in AMD goes Bye Bye. Our new CPU's from Intel will literally double in price overnight.

 

[BD231]

Ehhh, wouldn't someone just buy up AMD like N-Vidia bought 3DFX? I'm sure there's a gabazillionaire out there that would take over the company then try and re-build it. I cant help but think the Government would perhaps issue some sort of loan to AMD if the down side's of Intel not having competition were presented. I find AMD going out of buisness hard to swallow, Intel would monopolize the PC market if they were not in the picture. AMD DOSE need to start charging more for sure, their price's are really what's killing them, not to mention their poor and expensive advertisement scheme's that didn't work.

 

[Cpntrips]

Well, AMD is in serious debt right now and it will be at least 6 months before they come close to making a profit, assuming they can release their next gen chips on time. Th situation is pretty grim right now, as is their stock price.

 

[Nemesis77]

AMD isn't going anywhere. If they really need money (they still have cash), they can sell their other businesses (like their Flash-business). And like I said before, AMD will not die. It might get acquired by another company (Via, IBM, NVIDIA etc.), but they will not disappear.

 

[Looney1a]

When 3dfx went under they were against matrox, s3, ati, nvidia and intel (to some extent) with a few other companies to the side. AMD is against intel mainly, as big as they are they are only one company. Then there is also via, but they are only one small drop in a very large ocean. Well anyway i can't see it happening, but if it does happen we will all be up shit's creek without a paddle in a barbed wire cannoe. (An old Australian saying, if your wondering.)

And heres a question, if AMD went up for sale, what would stop intel themselfs buying it?

Anyway, hopefully something which will never happen.

Looney

 

[Gstanfor]

No, AMD is used to financial hardship.

Also, this isn't an uncommon situation for AMD

the picture looked about the same just about every processor change:

5x86 ----> K5
K5 ----> K6
K6 ----> Athlon

I presume it was much the same going from 386 ----> 486, but I was a loyal amiga fan in those days and took little notice of the PC world.

Greg

 

[Degenerate]

AMD isnt going anyhwere as long as the prices for top of the line intel chips is so high.

That is a reason why AMD is not making as much moeny as they would have hoped for. Of course, if they raised their prices, they might loose customers, so either way, there are negatives and postives.

 

[imgod2u]

AMD currently has about 1 billion in assets. That's enough to last them another year even in the worse case. If they die, it'll be a slow death, not a fast plunge. Now in this year, I'd expect them to do something that may help them pull out. As for the "cost effective" arguement, sorry to burst your bubble but selling CPU's for $53 doesn't bring in a profit. It causes a lost in your net income because it's costing more for R&D and manufacturing not to mention manning the fab plants to produce these chips if the majority of your sales are for chips that cost sub $100. Yes the higher end models do bring in a little profit but how many of you buy those? In an economic boom, such marketing may bring in a profit, however, during this time, you need to sell your chips, all your chips, at a price that brings in at least a little profit. Intel's current cheapest processor is what, $120? Even if no one bought the top of the line $600 P4, they'd still make a profit off of every chip. That's how you survive an economic bust.

 

[Adul]

I could see someone like IBM come in and buy out AMD. But I hope they continue on their own and survive this down turn.

 

[Pocatello]

I don't think AMD will go the way of 3Dfx, since AMD has been proven a survivor over the years. But I do think AMD needs a big supporter, Dell would be nice or IBM, like Dell to use the Opteron and IBM to provide the cash.

 

[Bovinicus]

Many hardware manufacturers in the PC industry are having lower than expected revenues because of the economic recession. However, I don't think AMD is going out of business any time soon. It is possible, but not probable. That would really anger me, especially with AMD just starting to really technically innovate on their own. This is true for their other markets as well (Primarily flash memory), not just the microprocessor market.