AMD X2 3800+ temps

[geokilla]

So my X2 is clocked at 2110mhz with the stock cooler and using 1.25v. Now there is a big problem. My CPU can top out at 57C. I already have a side intake and exhaust in my case. I seriously think that there is something wrong with my stock cooler. When I try to move it, it won't budge so I think that it's not loose or anything like that.

Could the stock heatsink be put on wrong? I don't know if it is or not since it wasn't me who built the computer. It's just that I find it real odd to have the CPU top out at 57C while undervolted.

All my temps are taking from Core Temp, the one with the hottest core.

Thanks in advance.

 

[MarcVenice]

whats idle and whats the load temp ? Load is 57c ? That is rather hot ... Maybe the hsf isn't fitted well on the cpu, maybe someone used to much cooling pasta. Reseating it might help ... Is cool N quiet and stuff like that all turned off ?

 

[geokilla]

Idle is 40C, and load is 57C. I'm using the stock AMD cooler with the AMD paste and everything. I don't have any AS5 or anything like that. Cool N Quiet is turned off since I'll never get to use it. My CPU is always under some load (F@H).

 

[MarcVenice]

ambient temps ? I'm not to sure about the x2, I've got 1 underway hehe, but right now running singlecore venice at 2400, 1.4vcore, and with 20c ambient it does 30ish idle temps, and high 40's load. http://www.velocityreviews.com...ling_Freezer_64_Pro/4/ shows 30 load for a 3000 winchester. Now to find a dualcore. which you can see here: http://www.futurelooks.com/364...ler-Review.html?page=5 Obviously the heat output of a dualcore is higher then a single core. But apparently your temperature levels aren't all that high compared to these temperatures.

Maybe it's time for a arctic freezer pro 64, I've bought one to ship with my x2 3800+, great bang for your buck. Hope this helped.

 

[MarcVenice]

hmz the forum froze, sorry for doublepost ...

 

[geokilla]

Ambient temperatures are at 25C.

Umm, what do you mean by reseating the heatsink?

 

[MarcVenice]

well you take the standard amd cooler of, and you take of the amd paste, reapply it, and check if the heatsink is completely flat, and check the cpu too, they've gotta make optimal contact with each other so it get's cooled the best the amd stock cooler can. But like I said, compared to that review your temps aren't looking to crazy to me. There's plenty of ppl with oc-ed x2's too, like f4phantom. If they pop in today theyll let you know if it's to high or not, and what temps to expect when oc-ing. In fact I'm curious myself, will I be able to keep a x2 3800+ toledo, oc-ed to 2.6ghz, below 60c at load ?

especially at ambient of 25 celsius your cpu seems to be fine, the ambient temps in that review are 17 celsius, compared to your 25, and you've got lower temps then there !

 

[geokilla]

So much stuff to do. Well, if I want to start some overclocking, guess it's time for me to go to CC and get myself a new heatsink and fan and some AS5.

Thanks Marc. I hope others will give me some input as well.

 

[betasub]

OS? There's a known issue with Win2K SP4 and dual core idling temps.

 

[bryanW1995]

My fx 55 at 2.9 ghz ran around 35c idle and 45c load. I just put an opteron 180. At 12x200(stock) it idles around 37-38c, but it jumps up to 54c loaded with both chips running seti@home, f@h, etc. I can't seem to keep it stable over 2500 on my old mobo, but I did have it going for about 6 hrs last night oc'd at 2567 with voltage at 1.41. It jumped to 56-57 loaded before giving up at 6 am or so. I did switch from a zalman 9700 led on the fx 55 to the stock hsf on the opteron, however. When I put the fx 55 in my backup mobo it idles at 38c with a pipsqueak hsf that is significantly smaller than the opteron stock hsf. My room ambient is around 25c.


edit: forgot to mention that my work computer is an x2 3600 brisbane. It idles at 32 and gets up to 45-46 under load. I have it clocked at 2287. The room is 22c, 1.3 vcore.

 

[geokilla]

I'm running Windows XP SP2.

Sounds like my temps are a bit high, for both idle and load. Maybe I should reseat the heatsink and fan. If I do reseat, do I have to reapply the thermal paste since I don't have any AS5 and I doubt my parents would let me get some AS5.

 

[bryanW1995]

yes, put thermal paste back on it when you reseat.

 

[Bill Kunert]

My X2 3800 had temp problems till I lapped the heat sink(was slightly concave) and the heat spreader(also concave). I have an Artic Cooling Freezer Pro 64.. I'm running at 2.7GHz at 1.37 volts. Idle is about 30C and load at 55C with an ambient of about 23 to 25 C.

 

[Conky]

Unless it's crashing or having other problems I wouldn't mess with it given your level of expertise with computer hardware. 57C under load is not that bad.

 

[MarcVenice]

wooohooo bill, I like your temps. I hope I don't have to lap my heatsink, although thats not as bad as messing with your cpu. + my ambient temps are usually around 20c, so 2.7ghz here I come !!! Damn cpu should be here wednesdag or thursday at the latest !

 

[geokilla]

If I do get an aftermarket heatsink, anyone got any recommendations for a good cheap one bbesides an Artic Cooling Freezer Pro 64? I'm thinking of getting a Scythe Katana CU for $31 CAN with AS5. I'm not sure whether it works with AM2 though.

 

[GeezerMan]

My personal Opteron 165 with AMD heatpipe HSF will hit 55 degrees while doing dual Orthos in a 84 F degree room, CPU is at 2.6GHz

 

[MarcVenice]

Nope, doesn't work with a am2 mobo, am2 mobo's werent out when they released the The Scythe Katana Cu. Don't like the acf pro 64 ? Most reviews I read about it were pretty positive. Good if not best bang for your buck, won't carry your OC to the maximum of what one could do on air, but it does work great for mild/decent overclocks, and runs silent as well.

 

[MrK6]

Just wondering, where are you getting the temp readings from? The motherboard sensor could be off. It says my CPU idles at 18C in a 28C room, but C2D's have a sensor built into their die. Does AMD have a similar sensor to check out? Of course you could try the old "touch" test.

 

[geokilla]

I'm getting the temp readings from Core Temp. I've read somewhere that Core Temp can be off by as much as 14C because the sensor in the die is faulty.

 

[bryanW1995]

mrk6, that's a pretty impressive temp.I've noticed that speedfan will sometimes give me a 9c reading on my 3600+ at work before loading 2xseti@home. That brings it to 47c, then it goes back to mid-20's when put back at idle.

 

[mshan]

"Unless it's crashing or having other problems I wouldn't mess with it given your level of expertise with computer hardware. 57C under load is not that bad."

I agree, once you've reseated the hsf, just let it settle in for several days with light tasks like websurfing.

If there are no stability problems, test the system with something like Prime95 to see if the program stops the stress test because of hardware failure (i.e. overheating).

If your system is Prime95 stable despite what the temp monitors say, I wouldn't worry about it; the monitor is just probably inaccurate.


http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=1901991&enterthread=y

 

[Matt2]

Sounds about right. My Opty 170 at stock settings hit 50*C easy under dual prime with the stock heatsink.

Put that beazy under water and it idles around 28*C and never goes above 43*C at 2.8GHZ.

 

[Yoshi911]

I hav'nt read all the posts, but you should try re-seating the heatsink. I just mounted a new 165 opty and was getting load temps of 80C after overclocking it to 1.475 volts, WAY TO MUCH. so I applied a little more Arctic silver 5, re spread it, and reseated the heatsink. Now im getting load temps of 60, way less (but still to much) i think i need to lap my heatsink.

 

[MarcVenice]

1.475vcore isn't that low. I can imagine it hits 60celsius with a stock HSF.