AMD X2 Price Cuts

crashish

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I was lookin at these YESTERDAY and they were over 1100. I'm sure Monarch will move to a better price soon, but right now the X2 prices seem rather good.

4800's are limited availability of course, but the Fry's in Anaheim had 8 or so I think.
 

RideFree

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"...but right now the X2 prices seem rather good."

Crash, I agree. In fact, the 3800 Manchester can be had for about a hun over the 3200 Venice.
 

jdogg707

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Originally posted by: jjsole
how many ghz does it run at?

4800+ - 2.4GHZ 2 x 1MB L2 Cache

4600+ - 2.4GHZ 2 x 512Kb L2 Cache

4400+ - 2.2GHZ 2 x 1MB L2 Cache

4200+ - 2.2GHZ 2 x 512Kb L2 Cache

3800+ - 2.0GHZ 2 x 512Kb L2 Cache
 

Fallengod

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Yeah it seems like a waste of money when you can OC a $160 3200+ venice to much HIGHER than the speed of a $1000 cpu... Is dual core worth that much ? I dont think so.
 

RideFree

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Originally posted by: modempower
Yeah it seems like a waste of money when you can OC a $160 3200+ venice to much HIGHER than the speed of a $1000 cpu... Is dual core worth that much ? I dont think so.
Sure would like one of them $160 3200+ Venice.
The only one I see is just a hair under $200 at the Egg.

 

chinkgai

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Originally posted by: modempower
Yeah it seems like a waste of money when you can OC a $160 3200+ venice to much HIGHER than the speed of a $1000 cpu... Is dual core worth that much ? I dont think so.


oh really? i have my 4400+ at 2.8ghz prime stable...thats basically a dual core fx-57. thx
 

gwag

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Originally posted by: chinkgai
Originally posted by: modempower
Yeah it seems like a waste of money when you can OC a $160 3200+ venice to much HIGHER than the speed of a $1000 cpu... Is dual core worth that much ? I dont think so.


oh really? i have my 4400+ at 2.8ghz prime stable...thats basically a dual core fx-57. thx

your so cool but what does that have to do with a $1000 cpu being a ripoff?
 

chinkgai

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i never implied im "cool"

im a geek, thanks.

who said i paid 1000 dollars? the 4400 isnt near a 1000 dollars. if you think this is a waste of money, why did you visit this thread?

comparing an overclocked single core venice to a non overclocked dual core is like comparing apples and oranges

this is a hot deals topic, some people actually have money to splurge on goodies such as this believe it or not.

yeah im sooo cool! hyuk hyuk!
 

Fallengod

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oh really? i have my 4400+ at 2.8ghz prime stable...thats basically a dual core fx-57. thx

I dont know how that had to do with anything I wrote but maybe you meant to quote the other guy...Good for you I guess? Why wouldnt it be stable....of course it is.

EDIT: Ok I think chinkgai is cracked out and replying to 2 different people in same post lol


Sure would like one of them $160 3200+ Venice.
The only one I see is just a hair under $200 at the Egg.

So stop shopping at newegg. You are mistaken if you think newegg always has the best prices.


your so cool but what does that have to do with a $1000 cpu being a ripoff?

I dont think you were replying to me but. I am also cool,, but thats beside the point.

It was my opinion first off, and I was saying why spend over $600 for a cpu that at stock, will be slower than, and has minimal improvements over an overclocked $150-$200 cpu. I DID NOT say it was a "ripoff" but it seems TO ME, the price/performance ratio is SIGNIFICANTLY better for just overclocking a $150-$200 cpu, than it is spending over $500 just for another core or slightly higher cache.

who said i paid 1000 dollars? the 4400 isnt near a 1000 dollars. if you think this is a waste of money, why did you visit this thread?

comparing an overclocked single core venice to a non overclocked dual core is like comparing apples and oranges

First the "1000 dollars" I was refering to is the 4800(2.4ghz). And yes I realize you can overclock a dual core cpu also(obviously). Still, is 1 more core worth the price difference. If anyone could benefit from dual cores, it would be me. I do dvd/mpeg2/video encoding as well as Maya and photoshop, and Id still say its not worth it.

I would however say, if the 3800+ drops a bit in price, that may be a great deal on a dual core cpu and may be worth it. I just cant see paying over $300 for a cpu, when you can overclock $200 cpu's so easily and so high. That was my point I was trying to make. Of course maybe thats just my opinion.

 

chinkgai

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ur right, you're entitled to your opinion, but i just wanted chime in when you stated these single cores will go MUCH higher than a dual core, when in fact, they are pretty similar in peaks, times two of course.

also dual cores get hotter than single cores.

and yes, i meant to quote u. the other guy just butted in. good day.
 

colincsl

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AMD64X2 4400 $547 dual 2.2ghz 1mb/core L2 cache (combined 2 mb) $124.31/ghz (cost for second core and 1.5mb L2 cache=357)
AMD 64 3200 $190 single 2.0ghz 512kb L2 cache (combined 512kb) $95/ghz

Both overclock. Don't compare an overclocked cpu with a stock cpu when talking about cost.

edit:both prices were the lowest I found using Froogle
 

illicit

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im going to have to pay fry's a visit. they never have the 4800+ in stock when i ask -_-
 

RideFree

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Butt in...Butt out
No difference IMHO.

I'm still after that 3200+ Venice for $160.
 

chinkgai

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Originally posted by: colincsl
AMD64X2 4400 $547 dual 2.2ghz 1mb/core L2 cache (combined 2 mb) $124.31/ghz (cost for second core and 1.5mb L2 cache=357)
AMD 64 3200 $190 single 2.0ghz 512kb L2 cache (combined 512kb) $95/ghz

Both overclock. Don't compare an overclocked cpu with a stock cpu when talking about cost.

edit:both prices were the lowest I found using Froogle

nice perspective
 

Sparky19692

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Originally posted by: colincsl
AMD64X2 4400 $547 dual 2.2ghz 1mb/core L2 cache (combined 2 mb) $124.31/ghz (cost for second core and 1.5mb L2 cache=357)
AMD 64 3200 $190 single 2.0ghz 512kb L2 cache (combined 512kb) $95/ghz

Both overclock. Don't compare an overclocked cpu with a stock cpu when talking about cost.

edit:both prices were the lowest I found using Froogle

would it not be more acurate to compare with a 3700+ 2.2 with 1 meg L2 @$126.36 per Ghz
and the 4400+ @ $124.31 per Ghz
If you need / want the power (I know I would like it but wife my would KILL) The X2 is a GREAT deal you have all the power of dual CPU's and ALL the options that are on the highend/gaming motherboards. 6 months ago you would pay 4 times this amount for a dual cpu setup without all the extras that you can have today.
 

crashish

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would it not be more acurate to compare with a 3700+ 2.2 with 1 meg L2 @$126.36 per Ghz
and the 4400+ @ $124.31 per Ghz
If you need / want the power (I know I would like it but wife my would KILL) The X2 is a GREAT deal you have all the power of dual CPU's and ALL the options that are on the highend/gaming motherboards. 6 months ago you would pay 4 times this amount for a dual cpu setup without all the extras that you can have today.

You, my friend, are a genius. I was just about to post almost exactly the same thing, but I'm not married, so I don't have [much] accountability for my spending. Either way, more cores, more cache, and, most importantly, falling prices. The future looks bright.

As a side note, I'm looking to build an HTPC, and am considering buying one of the X2's and swapping out my current FX55. Has anyone seen any deals on HTPC cases?
 

jdogg707

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Originally posted by: crashish
would it not be more acurate to compare with a 3700+ 2.2 with 1 meg L2 @$126.36 per Ghz
and the 4400+ @ $124.31 per Ghz
If you need / want the power (I know I would like it but wife my would KILL) The X2 is a GREAT deal you have all the power of dual CPU's and ALL the options that are on the highend/gaming motherboards. 6 months ago you would pay 4 times this amount for a dual cpu setup without all the extras that you can have today.

You, my friend, are a genius. I was just about to post almost exactly the same thing, but I'm not married, so I don't have [much] accountability for my spending. Either way, more cores, more cache, and, most importantly, falling prices. The future looks bright.

As a side note, I'm looking to build an HTPC, and am considering buying one of the X2's and swapping out my current FX55. Has anyone seen any deals on HTPC cases?


Wouldn't a DC processor be a bit overkill for a HTPC? Especially since most HTPC casings don't have very elaborate means of cooling a hot processor, and are really built for cool and quiet operation. At most, a Athlon64 3000+, but I would say a 2800+ would od just about anything you could want an HTPC to do.
 

crashish

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Originally posted by: jdogg707
Originally posted by: crashish
would it not be more acurate to compare with a 3700+ 2.2 with 1 meg L2 @$126.36 per Ghz
and the 4400+ @ $124.31 per Ghz
If you need / want the power (I know I would like it but wife my would KILL) The X2 is a GREAT deal you have all the power of dual CPU's and ALL the options that are on the highend/gaming motherboards. 6 months ago you would pay 4 times this amount for a dual cpu setup without all the extras that you can have today.

You, my friend, are a genius. I was just about to post almost exactly the same thing, but I'm not married, so I don't have [much] accountability for my spending. Either way, more cores, more cache, and, most importantly, falling prices. The future looks bright.

As a side note, I'm looking to build an HTPC, and am considering buying one of the X2's and swapping out my current FX55. Has anyone seen any deals on HTPC cases?


Wouldn't a DC processor be a bit overkill for a HTPC? Especially since most HTPC casings don't have very elaborate means of cooling a hot processor, and are really built for cool and quiet operation. At most, a Athlon64 3000+, but I would say a 2800+ would od just about anything you could want an HTPC to do.


I was going to swap out my FX55 and put the X2 in my current system. I know the FX55 would still be somewhat overkill for the HTPC, but boy would it be fun to play some HL2 on a 60" display.
 

jdogg707

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Originally posted by: crashish
Originally posted by: jdogg707
Originally posted by: crashish
would it not be more acurate to compare with a 3700+ 2.2 with 1 meg L2 @$126.36 per Ghz
and the 4400+ @ $124.31 per Ghz
If you need / want the power (I know I would like it but wife my would KILL) The X2 is a GREAT deal you have all the power of dual CPU's and ALL the options that are on the highend/gaming motherboards. 6 months ago you would pay 4 times this amount for a dual cpu setup without all the extras that you can have today.

You, my friend, are a genius. I was just about to post almost exactly the same thing, but I'm not married, so I don't have [much] accountability for my spending. Either way, more cores, more cache, and, most importantly, falling prices. The future looks bright.

As a side note, I'm looking to build an HTPC, and am considering buying one of the X2's and swapping out my current FX55. Has anyone seen any deals on HTPC cases?


Wouldn't a DC processor be a bit overkill for a HTPC? Especially since most HTPC casings don't have very elaborate means of cooling a hot processor, and are really built for cool and quiet operation. At most, a Athlon64 3000+, but I would say a 2800+ would od just about anything you could want an HTPC to do.


I was going to swap out my FX55 and put the X2 in my current system. I know the FX55 would still be somewhat overkill for the HTPC, but boy would it be fun to play some HL2 on a 60" display.


True, but what res do you plan on running that 60" display in?
 
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