Originally posted by: beemercer
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Top speed is great for an authobahn, in realioty where in America are you going to use it. Acelaeration from stop light to stop light is what American roads are made for.
In reality, where are you going to use acceleration? From one stop sign to the next?
Yes, the stop signs in my town are about 1/4 mile apart so everything works out.
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
First of all, there's no such make as "Pantera". The company "DeTomaso" built a car by the model name "Pantera".Originally posted by: RedArmy
Pantera by the looks of it.Originally posted by: Oblivionaire
I liked this car
What make model is that car? I've never seen it before.
Second, the car in the picture never existed. It's an AMX/2. It was a show vehicle produced by American Motors Corporation that was never cleared for production. The company made a 2 non-running styling models, but never built a functioning version. The car in that image has no interior, and no drivetrain.
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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
If you watch Top Gear at all you'll know that Jeremy Clarkson hates anything American. He needs to get over that fact that Americans kicked the Brits out over 200 years ago, then kicked their asses again in 1812. He doesn't like the Vette because he's jealous of it and that it cost half of what any European car that comes close to it.
Shame that the car never made it, eh? Was gorgeous. Was supposed to have a mid-engine design as well.Originally posted by: Oblivionaire
Thanks Zemmervolt. No wonder I didn't recognize it, it doesn't exist!
The only real American victory was The Battle of New Orleans, which was fought after the Treaty of Ghent was signed.Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
If you watch Top Gear at all you'll know that Jeremy Clarkson hates anything American. He needs to get over that fact that Americans kicked the Brits out over 200 years ago, then kicked their asses again in 1812. He doesn't like the Vette because he's jealous of it and that it cost half of what any European car that comes close to it.
one point to note. while we didnt exactly get our asses kicked in the war of 1812, it wasnt exactly a resounding victory... we didnt take any land, just solved a few of the reasons why we went to war.
sucks to be you then, eh?Originally posted by: Insomniator
haha nice flames on the tbird, real classy
I'll never buy an american car.. volvos are my car.
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
The only real American victory was The Battle of New Orleans, which was fought after the Treaty of Ghent was signed.Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
If you watch Top Gear at all you'll know that Jeremy Clarkson hates anything American. He needs to get over that fact that Americans kicked the Brits out over 200 years ago, then kicked their asses again in 1812. He doesn't like the Vette because he's jealous of it and that it cost half of what any European car that comes close to it.
one point to note. while we didnt exactly get our asses kicked in the war of 1812, it wasnt exactly a resounding victory... we didnt take any land, just solved a few of the reasons why we went to war.
The war was far more of a Canadian/British/French victory, particularly after we chased your President away and burnt down the whitehouse as revenge for the burning of York (Toronto).
WTF?Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
The only real American victory was The Battle of New Orleans, which was fought after the Treaty of Ghent was signed.Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
If you watch Top Gear at all you'll know that Jeremy Clarkson hates anything American. He needs to get over that fact that Americans kicked the Brits out over 200 years ago, then kicked their asses again in 1812. He doesn't like the Vette because he's jealous of it and that it cost half of what any European car that comes close to it.
one point to note. while we didnt exactly get our asses kicked in the war of 1812, it wasnt exactly a resounding victory... we didnt take any land, just solved a few of the reasons why we went to war.
The war was far more of a Canadian/British/French victory, particularly after we chased your President away and burnt down the whitehouse as revenge for the burning of York (Toronto).
Who cares. Face it. We are better off without the British, their fugly teeth, their nasty food, their crappy miserable island, and we beat them twice, essentially. Then, since their navy couldn't completely handle ze Germanz, we gave them a bunch of crappy boats from 30 years prior to fight some tiny tin cans that were ripping them to shreds and choaking their ability to resupply. Then we also let some of their flyboys train in the US while we gave them planes, ammunition, food, and other stuffs.
All of this doesn't matter jack crap right now, considering both of us are seperate countries, yet an American company owns three of the most major British auto companies.
Even that doesn't matter since they still have disgusting teeth and crappy weather. So get over it.
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
WTF?Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
The only real American victory was The Battle of New Orleans, which was fought after the Treaty of Ghent was signed.Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
If you watch Top Gear at all you'll know that Jeremy Clarkson hates anything American. He needs to get over that fact that Americans kicked the Brits out over 200 years ago, then kicked their asses again in 1812. He doesn't like the Vette because he's jealous of it and that it cost half of what any European car that comes close to it.
one point to note. while we didnt exactly get our asses kicked in the war of 1812, it wasnt exactly a resounding victory... we didnt take any land, just solved a few of the reasons why we went to war.
The war was far more of a Canadian/British/French victory, particularly after we chased your President away and burnt down the whitehouse as revenge for the burning of York (Toronto).
Who cares. Face it. We are better off without the British, their fugly teeth, their nasty food, their crappy miserable island, and we beat them twice, essentially. Then, since their navy couldn't completely handle ze Germanz, we gave them a bunch of crappy boats from 30 years prior to fight some tiny tin cans that were ripping them to shreds and choaking their ability to resupply. Then we also let some of their flyboys train in the US while we gave them planes, ammunition, food, and other stuffs.
All of this doesn't matter jack crap right now, considering both of us are seperate countries, yet an American company owns three of the most major British auto companies.
Even that doesn't matter since they still have disgusting teeth and crappy weather. So get over it.
I am Canadian. And like it or not the British were/are a major influence here. The whole war of 1812 was caused by President Madison and his supporters in the House deciding that a trade dispute with Britain was worth going to war over when the whole thing could have been settled diplomatically instead.
I am surprised he didn't want to search British ships for WMDs.
Britain, Canada and the USA all needed each other during WW1 and WW2. The sad part was FDR wanted to do more to help England but Congress had his hands tied.
Can't we all just get along?
probably, but its a great way to kill some time.Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
WTF?Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
The only real American victory was The Battle of New Orleans, which was fought after the Treaty of Ghent was signed.Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
If you watch Top Gear at all you'll know that Jeremy Clarkson hates anything American. He needs to get over that fact that Americans kicked the Brits out over 200 years ago, then kicked their asses again in 1812. He doesn't like the Vette because he's jealous of it and that it cost half of what any European car that comes close to it.
one point to note. while we didnt exactly get our asses kicked in the war of 1812, it wasnt exactly a resounding victory... we didnt take any land, just solved a few of the reasons why we went to war.
The war was far more of a Canadian/British/French victory, particularly after we chased your President away and burnt down the whitehouse as revenge for the burning of York (Toronto).
Who cares. Face it. We are better off without the British, their fugly teeth, their nasty food, their crappy miserable island, and we beat them twice, essentially. Then, since their navy couldn't completely handle ze Germanz, we gave them a bunch of crappy boats from 30 years prior to fight some tiny tin cans that were ripping them to shreds and choaking their ability to resupply. Then we also let some of their flyboys train in the US while we gave them planes, ammunition, food, and other stuffs.
All of this doesn't matter jack crap right now, considering both of us are seperate countries, yet an American company owns three of the most major British auto companies.
Even that doesn't matter since they still have disgusting teeth and crappy weather. So get over it.
I am Canadian. And like it or not the British were/are a major influence here. The whole war of 1812 was caused by President Madison and his supporters in the House deciding that a trade dispute with Britain was worth going to war over when the whole thing could have been settled diplomatically instead.
I am surprised he didn't want to search British ships for WMDs.
Britain, Canada and the USA all needed each other during WW1 and WW2. The sad part was FDR wanted to do more to help England but Congress had his hands tied.
Can't we all just get along?
I thought it was plainly evident that nobody gives a rats arse about these comparisons and only idiots sit on an internet message board making the comparisons.
Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: beemercer
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Top speed is great for an authobahn, in realioty where in America are you going to use it. Acelaeration from stop light to stop light is what American roads are made for.
In reality, where are you going to use acceleration? From one stop sign to the next?
Yes, the stop signs in my town are about 1/4 mile apart so everything works out.
half mile apart would work out better.
you're accellerating UP TO that 1/4 mile marker.
I've driven a 744 Turbo, I wouldn't imagine the wagon (necessarily heavier) would be faster, so I feel that I am justified in saying that your car isn't fast compared to everyday cars on the road. A V6 Mustang or a plane-jane V6 Accord would equal it in speed. The 744/745 Turbo had 160 hp. At best, it's adequate. It's about as fast as any V6 family sedan or wagon built today given the listed 0-55 time of 6.7 seconds. (Volvo ads at the time said "to legal speed" in 6.7 seconds, and when those ads were published, 55mph was the US limit.)Originally posted by: Insomniator
how does it suck to be me?
I drive a fast, reliable and safe car that anyone could buy for 2 grand now (745tic). My next volvo will be faster and safer and still cost under 10k (850r). They also actually have a nice looking interior unlike every american car ive ever seen. Before you laugh in my face about fast, I'm not talking about a vette or racing down at the track, I'm saying faster then average cars you'd see out on the road, and faster then any rice crap with fart cans.
I also dont have any lame decals on my car that would get laughed at outside of hillbilly ville.
Originally posted by: BouZouki
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
McLaren F1, 240.18 mph....
I do believe this is American and performs as such off the showroom floor.
I do believe you're stupid. The car itself is British and the engine is a BMW (German).
LOL pwnt
American = crap
I love those guys with the muscle cars though with the plastic interiors.
People who say otherwise are just american fanboys who go around yelling YEAH! AMERICA! <hillbilly voice>
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Another typical American "i got all the power and torque" vs Japanese "rice and puny crap". Give me a break. Why not compare a Malibu with and NSX while we at it?
How about Nissan Skyline R34 vs Ford Focus?
How about bringing in the Germans here? How about bringing in Lambo and Ferrari vs Mustang?
You drive whatever you want to drive and whatever you can afford...why make fun of what other people drive? (yea, stupid spoilers look ridiculous...but i've seen riced mustangs)
Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
I'd like to compare top speeds of Euro cars with top speeds of those hillbilly American cars.
Euro cars would reign supreme every time. American cars just aren't built solid enough to sustain extreme speeds, that's why the rednecks who own them always put acceleration over topspeed. Who cares about acceleration.
Top speed is great for an authobahn, in realioty where in America are you going to use it. Acelaeration from stop light to stop light is what American roads are made for.
Remember these hillbilly cars like Vipers, 'Vettes, and GT40's rival Ferraris and Porsches.
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
First of all, there's no such make as "Pantera". The company "DeTomaso" built a car by the model name "Pantera".Originally posted by: RedArmy
Pantera by the looks of it.Originally posted by: Oblivionaire
I liked this car
What make model is that car? I've never seen it before.
Second, the car in the picture never existed. It's an AMX/2. It was a show vehicle produced by American Motors Corporation that was never cleared for production. The company made a 2 non-running styling models, but never built a functioning version. The car in that image has no interior, and no drivetrain.
ZV
LOLOriginally posted by: Insomniator
how does it suck to be me?
I drive a fast, reliable and safe car that anyone could buy for 2 grand now (745tic). My next volvo will be faster and safer and still cost under 10k (850r). They also actually have a nice looking interior unlike every american car ive ever seen. Before you laugh in my face about fast, I'm not talking about a vette or racing down at the track, I'm saying faster then average cars you'd see out on the road, and faster then any rice crap with fart cans.
I also dont have any lame decals on my car that would get laughed at outside of hillbilly ville.
:thumbsup:Originally posted by: Toastedlightly
My Caprice Class from 1977 got up to ~115 w/o overdrive (didn't have the option). Not bad for an old rusty 200 dollar car!
American = crap