American Cars vs. Imports

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly
Oh yea, here is a great car:

Borealis III

http://www.svp.umn.edu/

That pwns all!

/sarcasm

Gotta love seeing my alma-mater kick out some good stuff!

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
I'd like to compare top speeds of Euro cars with top speeds of those hillbilly American cars.

Euro cars would reign supreme every time. American cars just aren't built solid enough to sustain extreme speeds, that's why the rednecks who own them always put acceleration over topspeed. Who cares about acceleration.

You claim that the American cars are "hillbilly" cars, but you're the one making sweeping generalizations about American cars.

A Corvette is an excellent machine.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Fmr12B


Top speed is great for an authobahn, in realioty where in America are you going to use it. Acelaeration from stop light to stop light is what American roads are made for.

Remember these hillbilly cars like Vipers, 'Vettes, and GT40's rival Ferraris and Porsches.

No, top speed is not great for the autobahn. Contrary to fanboy's wet dreams, the autobahns are not racetracks. In fact, the average speed on the autobahns is similar to what you'd find on a US highway.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Top speed is great for an authobahn, in realioty where in America are you going to use it. Acelaeration from stop light to stop light is what American roads are made for.

In reality, where are you going to use acceleration? From one stop sign to the next? You're still breaking the law if you're burning rubber on a street or speeding, what's the difference?

American cars simply CANNOT hang in terms of top speed. I don't think an American car has ever been made that could do 200mph stock right off the lot, let alone the 220mph+ (a few 240+) some Euro cars are doing.

McLaren F1, 240.18 mph....

I do believe this is American and performs as such off the showroom floor.

Get out of the thread. Now.

 

[giantpinkbunnyhead]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Top speed is great for an authobahn, in realioty where in America are you going to use it. Acelaeration from stop light to stop light is what American roads are made for.

In reality, where are you going to use acceleration? From one stop sign to the next? You're still breaking the law if you're burning rubber on a street or speeding, what's the difference?

American cars simply CANNOT hang in terms of top speed. I don't think an American car has ever been made that could do 200mph stock right off the lot, let alone the 220mph+ (a few 240+) some Euro cars are doing.

McLaren F1, 240.18 mph....

I do believe this is American and performs as such off the showroom floor.

Get out of the thread. Now.

piss off, asshole. You're like the 3rd person to point out that I'm wrong AFTER I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED IT. Do you people not fvcking read???

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: BouZouki

Tunned 4.2L V8 vs a 6.1L V8.

Not to mention the 8250 rpm redline.

The RS4 also gets more HP per cylinder.

You, too- out of this thread, for bringing up the riceboy "power per liter" argument. Only this time, you claim "power per cylinder" which makes even less sense.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead

piss off, asshole. You're like the 3rd person to point out that I'm wrong AFTER I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED IT. Do you people not fvcking read???

I think they're just absolutely shocked that you'd actually post a message on a public forum if you didn't know something as basic as that.

If you don't know, don't post. Don't just pollute the forum with ignorance.

 

[giantpinkbunnyhead]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead

piss off, asshole. You're like the 3rd person to point out that I'm wrong AFTER I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED IT. Do you people not fvcking read???

I think they're just absolutely shocked that you'd actually post a message on a public forum if you didn't know something as basic as that.

If you don't know, don't post. Don't just pollute the forum with ignorance.

Oh, right. I've seen plenty of ignorance out of your mouth on this forum. If you can't accept that people make mistakes... I pity you.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
You claim that the American cars are "hillbilly" cars, but you're the one making sweeping generalizations about American cars.

A Corvette is an excellent machine.

As Jeremy Clarkson pointed out, they're built like crap. Plastic everywhere, inside and out.

It's just a poorly built car with a big engine and a plastic shell. Every corner was cut in the production of it. It's a "value" sports car. Just something to impress in terms of numbers, but in reality very low quality.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead


Oh, right. I've seen plenty of ignorance out of your mouth on this forum. If you can't accept that people make mistakes... I pity you.

False.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
You claim that the American cars are "hillbilly" cars, but you're the one making sweeping generalizations about American cars.

A Corvette is an excellent machine.

As Jeremy Clarkson pointed out, they're built like crap. Plastic everywhere, inside and out.

It's just a poorly built car with a big engine and a plastic shell. Every corner was cut in the production of it. It's a "value" sports car. Just something to impress in terms of numbers, but in reality very low quality.

The build quality isn't up to Japanese standards, but have you ever seen the reliability of most European cars? Absolutely horrible.

People are quick to trump up their BMW and Mercedes while mocking the build quality of American cars, yet the reliability of BMW and Mercedes is worse. They're crap, consistently. If you compared a Ferrari to a Corvette's workmanship, there'd be no comparison. But I bet someone would use an excuse such as, "Well, Ferraris aren't built for quality".

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
The build quality isn't up to Japanese standards, but have you ever seen the reliability of most European cars? Absolutely horrible.

People are quick to trump up their BMW and Mercedes while mocking the build quality of American cars, yet the reliability of BMW and Mercedes is worse. They're crap, consistently. If you compared a Ferrari to a Corvette's workmanship, there'd be no comparison. But I bet someone would use an excuse such as, "Well, Ferraris aren't built for quality".

ABSOLUTE, DOWNRIGHT MYTH.

Those stats don't take into account HOW MANY THING a car has to break. A car with MORE features and new technology is more likely to be in the shop yes. That's why Mercedes and BMWs are in the shop more. They're always the first to put the latest new features on their cars and many of those features have not been perfected. The magazines that track car reliability have admitted this.

Meanwhile an American car with basic features, still manages to breakdown.

 

[R Nilla]

This thread is ridiculously juvenile.

I would like to point out, though, that the Ford Motor Company currently has a controlling interest in Jaguar, Volvo and Aston Martin, which makes most of this thread pretty ironic.

Yes, I realize it hasn't always been this way, but I find it amusing.

Carry on with the ePenis comparisons...

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

ABSOLUTE, DOWNRIGHT MYTH.

Those stats don't take into account HOW MANY THING a car has to break. A car with MORE features and new technology is more likely to be in the shop yes. That's why Mercedes and BMWs are in the shop more. They're always the first to put the latest new features on their cars and many of those features have not been perfected. The magazines that track car reliability have admitted this.

Meanwhile an American car with basic features, still manages to breakdown.

That is downright false. Absolutely false. I'm a car nut and I follow this stuff closely, and I can tell you with absolute certainty that this is false.

Lexus is always among the first to incorporate new features into its cars, and they're consistently scoring in the top spot on the reliability tests. They are the most reliable brand, bar none. They are head and shoulders above BMW and Mercedes.

How come Lexus and Acura are able to fill their cars with features, while BMW and Mercedes break down so much more? It's not even close.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Lexus is always among the first to incorporate new features into its cars, and they're consistently scoring in the top spot on the reliability tests. They are the most reliable brand, bar none. They are head and shoulders above BMW and Mercedes.

BMWs and Mercedes are on a different level than Lexus. Lexus is Japanese, hence the electronic perfect, but Mercedes and BMWs have more exotic engines, which is why they have more trouble.

Lexus doesn't even make anything with more than 400hp. They make cars for old ladies.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Lexus is always among the first to incorporate new features into its cars, and they're consistently scoring in the top spot on the reliability tests. They are the most reliable brand, bar none. They are head and shoulders above BMW and Mercedes.

BMWs and Mercedes are on a different level than Lexus. Lexus is Japanese, hence the electronic perfect, but Mercedes and BMWs have more exotic engines, which is why they have more trouble.

Lexus doesn't even make anything with more than 400hp. They make cars for old ladies.

BMWs and Mercedes are not on a different level than Lexus. The only "benefit" lies in the biased minds of those who have German car envy, so they put value in something abstract and undefinable. Basically, if you took a Lexus, slapped a BMW badge on it, and told them that it was the new BMW, they'd love it and proclaim it to be the ultimate driving machine.

And what's more exotic about their engines? There is nothing more exotic about their engines. Car mechanics/engines is my strongpoint, so you're going to lose that argument.

They're badge whores, nothing else. By all measurable accounts, the Lexus cars are the more thoroughly engineered and reliable. They're consistently #1, it's not even close.

 

[murban135]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Lexus is always among the first to incorporate new features into its cars, and they're consistently scoring in the top spot on the reliability tests. They are the most reliable brand, bar none. They are head and shoulders above BMW and Mercedes.

BMWs and Mercedes are on a different level than Lexus. Lexus is Japanese, hence the electronic perfect, but Mercedes and BMWs have more exotic engines, which is why they have more trouble.

Lexus doesn't even make anything with more than 400hp. They make cars for old ladies.

I imagine that is a great comfort to the owners of these cars. When they break down, they can always think to themselves "Yeah, my expensive European car doesn't work but just think of how powerful and exotic the engine is!"

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: murban135

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Lexus is always among the first to incorporate new features into its cars, and they're consistently scoring in the top spot on the reliability tests. They are the most reliable brand, bar none. They are head and shoulders above BMW and Mercedes.

BMWs and Mercedes are on a different level than Lexus. Lexus is Japanese, hence the electronic perfect, but Mercedes and BMWs have more exotic engines, which is why they have more trouble.

Lexus doesn't even make anything with more than 400hp. They make cars for old ladies.

I imagine that is a great comfort to the owners of these cars. When they break down, they can always think to themselves "Yeah, my expensive European car doesn't work but just think of how powerful and exotic the engine is!"

There is nothing exotic about their engines. On the contrary, the Japanese lead the way with engine technology. Not only are they the first to incorporate useful, advanced features into their engines, they actually know how to make a reliable engine!

Is that a radical concept in Germany? Reliability?

 

[murban135]

91TTZ hopefully you got the sarcasm in my previous post.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: murban135
91TTZ hopefully you got the sarcasm in my previous post.

Yes I did. I'm supporting your comments.

 

[Journer]

hahaha...
i personally love both american and imports, but i hate ricers...thats a nice vid ^_^

 

[MrX8503]

I find it laughable that people rip on the Corvette Z06.

The fact that a $70-$80k car being compared to the Hundreds of thousand dollar supercars speaks for itself. Each LS7 engine inside a Z06 is handcrafted. I dont care if its turns or straights, the Z06 can keep up with the best of European cars.

An amazing car is an amazing car I dont care where it came from.

 

[MrX8503]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
You claim that the American cars are "hillbilly" cars, but you're the one making sweeping generalizations about American cars.

A Corvette is an excellent machine.

As Jeremy Clarkson pointed out, they're built like crap. Plastic everywhere, inside and out.

It's just a poorly built car with a big engine and a plastic shell. Every corner was cut in the production of it. It's a "value" sports car. Just something to impress in terms of numbers, but in reality very low quality.

Oh dear lord.

There is so many things wrong with your post.

Since when are V8's Huge engines?

I can tell you know nothing of the Z06's body. The body structure is made of aluminum to reduce weight, the chassis cradle of magnesium further reducing the weight of the vehicle.

The Z06 LS7 is handcrafted each with connecting rods, pushrods, valve springs made of titanium. It also incorporates a dry sump oiling system.

The interior is low quality but the rest of the car is nothing short of an amazing car.

Please stop spewing uninformed information about the Z06 while you day dream all day about your all powerful European cars.

 

[MrX8503]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Lexus is always among the first to incorporate new features into its cars, and they're consistently scoring in the top spot on the reliability tests. They are the most reliable brand, bar none. They are head and shoulders above BMW and Mercedes.

BMWs and Mercedes are on a different level than Lexus. Lexus is Japanese, hence the electronic perfect, but Mercedes and BMWs have more exotic engines, which is why they have more trouble.

Lexus doesn't even make anything with more than 400hp. They make cars for old ladies.

lol worst argument ever.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Iron Woode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5NCrNBKRpw

I found it rather amusing.

How come all the good American cars were made 30-40 years ago?