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5 million votes thrown out?!?!?
Something like this
5 million votes thrown out?!?!?
The massive right-wing media sphere
The right wing in the US only really has Fox, most conservatives would consider all others as liberal (whether they are or not). Conservatives' specialty is depth and their social media game.Huh?
Holy cow! I thought Kara Swisher was my new hero, but if this Greg Palast guy is legit and not a conspiracy theorist he is the standard-bearer! I really like Robert Reich but he is ancient now.
The right wing in the US only really has Fox, most conservatives would consider all others as liberal (whether they are or not). Conservatives' specialty is depth and their social media game.
I like it! Previously my fave was Fox “News”, followed closely by Faux News, but Fox Noise is a perfect moniker.Fox Noise
While I'm inclined to think there are not likely 4 million disenfranchised votes during the election, let's be quite clear that there is mountains of evidence that Republicans actively engage in voter suppression. Voter ID laws, removing names from voter rolls during protected periods, closing down polling locations, passing laws to prevent volunteers from handing out water to voters in line...the lost goes on.You know that's just crying sour grapes. All these things can't be proven in court any more than Trump's claims of stolen election in 2020.
How about just coming up with more popular policy positions so these shenanigans don't have a chance to work?
Because complaining about them saying "Migrants are eating the cats, eating the dogs and trump bullying migrants" isn't likely to win votes as much as economic policy but no..
The dems must make a pariah out of Bernie Sanders, AOC and get in bed with neocons like Liz Cheney.
Personally I'd say cut farm aid. Everyone should feel the pain.Alright, cut the TSA, border patrol, and ICE then. Plenty of bloat there!
How about trans people are trying to rape your children?You know that's just crying sour grapes. All these things can't be proven in court any more than Trump's claims of stolen election in 2020.
How about just coming up with more popular policy positions so these shenanigans don't have a chance to work?
Because complaining about them saying "Migrants are eating the cats, eating the dogs and trump bullying migrants" isn't likely to win votes as much as economic policy but no..
The dems must make a pariah out of Bernie Sanders, AOC and get in bed with neocons like Liz Cheney.
How about trans people are trying to rape your children?
The mediasphere consists of much more than cable news. Podcasts, owning Twitter, FB leaning right - these are all part of the mediasphereThe right wing in the US only really has Fox, most conservatives would consider all others as liberal (whether they are or not). Conservatives' specialty is depth and their social media game.
You are in the same mindset as squished, as if any one of the thousand cuts were the actual cut that killed you. It was not ONE cut. It was thousands.Maybe that moved the needle for religious folks and those wanting to say Tranny tranny tranny like Nancy Mace but don't think it moved the needle for anyone else.
Instead the ads of the libs are trying to cut your underage son's balls off and make them into girls would have hit deeper with normal folks who still care about their boys still being boys.
But that's super easy to counter with the right message.. like the government has no right to decide what you or your kid wants.. it's up to you and dems will always respect your privacy.
Did the dems do that? Nope.
lol I have stated multiple times the multiple ways we lost this election, wtf are you talking about? Absolute nonsense.You are in the same mindset as squished, as if any one of the thousand cuts were the actual cut that killed you. It was not ONE cut. It was thousands.
Save the date.
The Democrats faced an uphill battle. The massive right-wing media sphere, especially including social media, and also a complicit mainstream media, the general shittiness of humanity which is easy to appeal to with hate.
But let's face it. The things that we as Democrats could have controlled, were miserable.
Biden completely fucked this country, and the Democrats went along with it. They failed to adjust their messaging and strategies enough as well, they didn't understand the situation correctly.
You are in the same mindset as squished, as if any one of the thousand cuts were the actual cut that killed you. It was not ONE cut. It was thousands.
I'm way left of squishy on healthcare and LGBT issues
And the racism didn't move the needle? Blacks stealing pets and eating them?Maybe that moved the needle for religious folks and those wanting to say Tranny tranny tranny like Nancy Mace but don't think it moved the needle for anyone else.
Instead the ads of the libs are trying to cut your underage son's balls off and make them into girls would have hit deeper with normal folks who still care about their boys still being boys.
But that's super easy to counter with the right message.. like the government has no right to decide what you or your kid wants.. it's up to you and dems will always respect your privacy.
Did the dems do that? Nope.
Tough to fight when so many are willing to believe shit like this
The mediasphere consists of much more than cable news. Podcasts, owning Twitter, FB leaning right - these are all part of the mediasphere
On top of that the other mainstream media is not liberal. Most of the rest of the mainstream media totally sanewashed Trump and both sidesed the parties. That was all strongly in favor of Trump.
The irony is so thick...To the intelligent a hint is enough.
Thanks for demonstrating you're stupid as any average MAGAT.
Sorry, to clarify, I meant broadcast networks (OAN and various RU-backed 'media' I'm not counting here). I may have also used the wrong word with 'depth', I didn't mean cognitive depth, I meant more like penetration with audience. Liberal media tends to carpet bomb, conservative media uses bunker busters.Disagree. It's nowhere near that sparse for them. The right wing echochamber dominates talk radio, has all of Sinclair broadcasting. What repug has ever called OAN 'liberal'? Have you heard of RSNB? I've witnessed several magats cling to Newsmax dreck on occasion. Fox Noise has a scary new lady that destroys cohosts with logic and facts, it's driven some viewers away. Having narratives challenged from a safe space hurts the feels afterall.
You look at Truth Social and you see depth, expertise? Really?
I guess I can agree with that, I was more considering traditional news reporting. Yes, conservatives hit hard in their respective online realms.The mediasphere consists of much more than cable news. Podcasts, owning Twitter, FB leaning right - these are all part of the mediasphere
On top of that the other mainstream media is not liberal. Most of the rest of the mainstream media totally sanewashed Trump and both sidesed the parties. That was all strongly in favor of Trump.
JFC!
We need serious voting reform. If Biden has pushed through HR-1 by fiat would your response had been the same?who cares how its done.
But the point is that it wasnt just dems that fucked up. And lets be honest, you did zoom in on Biden there for a second.lol I have stated multiple times the multiple ways we lost this election, wtf are you talking about? Absolute nonsense.
In fact, in the very first post of this thread I acknowledged teh other factors which went against Dems briefly but explained this thread was about how the Dems fucked up - we can try and help our own party evolve IF we learn the mistakes. So please, read first. This was abotu what Dems could have controlled and clearly acknowledging there were other big issues involved as well.