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Cdubneeddeal

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Was the other dog provoked in any way? How do you know it was an American? Just ruling out if this is shens or not.

The other dog being provoked is totally IRRELEVANT. The OP's dad was in HIS yard with his dog on a leash. The Pitbull was loose and running. The pitbull is at fault no matter what transpired. The owner is an idiot, as are most people who own Pitbulls. I would have shot the Pitbull in my yard and dealt with the consequences.

I disagree to a point. In my opinion, the dog (pitbull or not) is not at fault for this incident. It's the owner who was careless with this type of breed of dog. Pitbulls take a lot of attention and training to make sure they're suitable for society which is obvious the owner didn't do a good enough job at. Please do not make a statement like that again regarding that most people who own pitbulls are idiots. That's false and bias.

Most people who own Pitbulls are idiots. There, I said it again. I don't care if you own one and take offense. The operative word is MOST. Having a dog that cannot be trusted NOT to attack other animals or people says alot about the type of person who would own such a breed. The breed is rather useless as a pet but people with a penchant for "macho" things tend to get dogs of this type. You read about unprovoked Pitbull attacks all the time. There is definitely something wrong with this breed. They do not belong in neighborhoods with other people and animals. If you have to have one of these worthless dogs do so in the country.

Telling me the Pitbull owner in this case is at fault changes nothing. The dog attacked another dog on that dog's property. If it would have happened in my yard the Pitbull would have been dead.

Such a tough guy. Who's "macho" now?

All dogs can be agressive regardless of the breed. Do some homework on German Shepards and a small breed, Miniature Dobermans for example. All dogs can be agressive. It all depends on the owners. Pitbulls are great family pets, believe it or not. I've never met or had a dog with such a personailty as Pitbulls. But then again, the media says differently so it must be so.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Was the other dog provoked in any way? How do you know it was an American? Just ruling out if this is shens or not.

The other dog being provoked is totally IRRELEVANT. The OP's dad was in HIS yard with his dog on a leash. The Pitbull was loose and running. The pitbull is at fault no matter what transpired. The owner is an idiot, as are most people who own Pitbulls. I would have shot the Pitbull in my yard and dealt with the consequences.

I disagree to a point. In my opinion, the dog (pitbull or not) is not at fault for this incident. It's the owner who was careless with this type of breed of dog. Pitbulls take a lot of attention and training to make sure they're suitable for society which is obvious the owner didn't do a good enough job at. Please do not make a statement like that again regarding that most people who own pitbulls are idiots. That's false and bias.

Most people who own Pitbulls are idiots. There, I said it again. I don't care if you own one and take offense. The operative word is MOST. Having a dog that cannot be trusted NOT to attack other animals or people says alot about the type of person who would own such a breed. The breed is rather useless as a pet but people with a penchant for "macho" things tend to get dogs of this type. You read about unprovoked Pitbull attacks all the time. There is definitely something wrong with this breed. They do not belong in neighborhoods with other people and animals. If you have to have one of these worthless dogs do so in the country.

Telling me the Pitbull owner in this case is at fault changes nothing. The dog attacked another dog on that dog's property. If it would have happened in my yard the Pitbull would have been dead.

Such a tough guy. Who's "macho" now?

All dogs can be agressive regardless of the breed. Do some homework on German Shepards and a small breed, Miniature Dobermans for example. All dogs can be agressive. It all depends on the owners. Pitbulls are great family pets, believe it or not. I've never met or had a dog with such a personailty as Pitbulls. But then again, the media says differently so it must be so.
did you skip over the report i sited? you Pitbull fanbois are in denial.
 

RKS

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: RKS
Originally posted by: thehstrybean
File it. Dogs are great, but pitbulls are aggressive by nature, like lots of other dogs...


like Petey from the Lil' Rascals?? :roll:

I think Labs have more reported bites than Pit Bulls/ Staff. Terriors/etc.
Not according to this report.

I said bites not Bite-Related Deaths. In that case, judging by recent history, Rotties are more dangerous. I think the problem is the type of person that USUALLY buys/breeds APBT and ST.

 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: RKS
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: RKS
Originally posted by: thehstrybean
File it. Dogs are great, but pitbulls are aggressive by nature, like lots of other dogs...


like Petey from the Lil' Rascals?? :roll:

I think Labs have more reported bites than Pit Bulls/ Staff. Terriors/etc.
Not according to this report.

I said bites not Bite-Related Deaths. In that case, judging by recent history, Rotties are more dangerous. I think the problem is the type of person that USUALLY buys/breeds APBT and ST.
because bite related deaths should take a back seat to plain ole bites. :roll:

 

doze

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Do these people regularly let their pit bill run around, or did the dog escape? If the dog runs loose then you need to call animal control, and let the owners deal with the consequences. If the dog happened to get out then have a talk with the neighbors about securing their dog. My aunt and uncle had a pitbull and once it grew to full size it could jump their 6 foot tall fence so they had to go electric to keep the dog in.
 

RKS

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: RKS
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: RKS
Originally posted by: thehstrybean
File it. Dogs are great, but pitbulls are aggressive by nature, like lots of other dogs...


like Petey from the Lil' Rascals?? :roll:

I think Labs have more reported bites than Pit Bulls/ Staff. Terriors/etc.
Not according to this report.

I said bites not Bite-Related Deaths. In that case, judging by recent history, Rotties are more dangerous. I think the problem is the type of person that USUALLY buys/breeds APBT and ST.
because bite related deaths should take a back seat to plain ole bites. :roll:


I didn't say that. :roll:
You linked to info that is over 6 years old and UNRELATED to what I said. It doesn't contradict my point that a lot of other dogs bite just not with the strength of a PBT. Taking a tangent on what I said to distract from the whatever point you were tring to make is kinda funny though.
 

Cdubneeddeal

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Was the other dog provoked in any way? How do you know it was an American? Just ruling out if this is shens or not.

The other dog being provoked is totally IRRELEVANT. The OP's dad was in HIS yard with his dog on a leash. The Pitbull was loose and running. The pitbull is at fault no matter what transpired. The owner is an idiot, as are most people who own Pitbulls. I would have shot the Pitbull in my yard and dealt with the consequences.

I disagree to a point. In my opinion, the dog (pitbull or not) is not at fault for this incident. It's the owner who was careless with this type of breed of dog. Pitbulls take a lot of attention and training to make sure they're suitable for society which is obvious the owner didn't do a good enough job at. Please do not make a statement like that again regarding that most people who own pitbulls are idiots. That's false and bias.

Most people who own Pitbulls are idiots. There, I said it again. I don't care if you own one and take offense. The operative word is MOST. Having a dog that cannot be trusted NOT to attack other animals or people says alot about the type of person who would own such a breed. The breed is rather useless as a pet but people with a penchant for "macho" things tend to get dogs of this type. You read about unprovoked Pitbull attacks all the time. There is definitely something wrong with this breed. They do not belong in neighborhoods with other people and animals. If you have to have one of these worthless dogs do so in the country.

Telling me the Pitbull owner in this case is at fault changes nothing. The dog attacked another dog on that dog's property. If it would have happened in my yard the Pitbull would have been dead.

Such a tough guy. Who's "macho" now?

All dogs can be agressive regardless of the breed. Do some homework on German Shepards and a small breed, Miniature Dobermans for example. All dogs can be agressive. It all depends on the owners. Pitbulls are great family pets, believe it or not. I've never met or had a dog with such a personailty as Pitbulls. But then again, the media says differently so it must be so.
did you skip over the report i sited? you Pitbull fanbois are in denial.

I'm not in denial. Maybe your reading comprehension is a little off tonight :wine: I never once denied that pitbulls can be agressive. They can be, so can any dog. All dogs have the pack instinct and agressive nature, some more than others. It's the owners' responsibility to learn about their animals before proceeding with ownership.

Now back to the topic. Report the incident.
 

CurseTheSky

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Baked
Your dad missed the chance to shoot that monster dead w/ a Desert Eagle when it transpassed into your property.

No kidding, I would have sent that fvcking mutt to it's grave.


How in the world would that be an opportunity to shoot the dog?

I believe it's the law for most states - if an animal (wild or domestic... even endangered I believe) is on your property and threatening your family or pets, you have the right to shoot it.

I know that's the law here, and I'm pretty sure it's the law in most other places.

 

Rogodin2

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I posed this question of pitbulls being overly agressive (both towards other dogs as well as to humans) to my sister (who owns a pit crossbreed). I believe that most pitbull owners are so enamored with their pits that they don't recognize the aggressive apriori attribute that this breed possesses. They were bred to kill and in the ownership of a person that neglects them they are deadly. Rather than taking the chance of having them kill children, elderly people and other dogs (along with the other aggressive breeds) they should be bred out. What usefull purspose do they serve dog lovers? Do you need to set them free on your property so that looting, raping, land hungry THUGS don't overrun your villa?

Jeezus

Rogo
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
I disagree to a point. In my opinion, the dog (pitbull or not) is not at fault for this incident. It's the owner who was careless with this type of breed of dog. Pitbulls take a lot of attention and training to make sure they're suitable for society which is obvious the owner didn't do a good enough job at. Please do not make a statement like that again regarding that most people who own pitbulls are idiots. That's false and bias.


Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
I'm not in denial. Maybe your reading comprehension is a little off tonight :wine: I never once denied that pitbulls can be agressive. They can be, so can any dog. All dogs have the pack instinct and agressive nature, some more than others. It's the owners' responsibility to learn about their animals before proceeding with ownership.

Now back to the topic. Report the incident.

So if you guys think pitbulls are all sweet, gentle family dogs, and pitbull owners are mostly smart and responsible, then how do you explain the statistics?

Sure, the "pitbull problem" is overblown by the media. But you can't deny that "improperly trained" pitbulls are aggressive and dangerous, and that there are a really large number of irresponsible owners who don't give them said training.

If they need that much training to be suitable for society, methinks that maybe they shouldn't be owned by any old idiot.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Was the other dog provoked in any way? How do you know it was an American? Just ruling out if this is shens or not.

The other dog being provoked is totally IRRELEVANT. The OP's dad was in HIS yard with his dog on a leash. The Pitbull was loose and running. The pitbull is at fault no matter what transpired. The owner is an idiot, as are most people who own Pitbulls. I would have shot the Pitbull in my yard and dealt with the consequences.

I disagree to a point. In my opinion, the dog (pitbull or not) is not at fault for this incident. It's the owner who was careless with this type of breed of dog. Pitbulls take a lot of attention and training to make sure they're suitable for society which is obvious the owner didn't do a good enough job at. Please do not make a statement like that again regarding that most people who own pitbulls are idiots. That's false and bias.

Most people who own Pitbulls are idiots. There, I said it again. I don't care if you own one and take offense. The operative word is MOST. Having a dog that cannot be trusted NOT to attack other animals or people says alot about the type of person who would own such a breed. The breed is rather useless as a pet but people with a penchant for "macho" things tend to get dogs of this type. You read about unprovoked Pitbull attacks all the time. There is definitely something wrong with this breed. They do not belong in neighborhoods with other people and animals. If you have to have one of these worthless dogs do so in the country.

Telling me the Pitbull owner in this case is at fault changes nothing. The dog attacked another dog on that dog's property. If it would have happened in my yard the Pitbull would have been dead.

Such a tough guy. Who's "macho" now?

All dogs can be agressive regardless of the breed. Do some homework on German Shepards and a small breed, Miniature Dobermans for example. All dogs can be agressive. It all depends on the owners. Pitbulls are great family pets, believe it or not. I've never met or had a dog with such a personailty as Pitbulls. But then again, the media says differently so it must be so.
did you skip over the report i sited? you Pitbull fanbois are in denial.

I'm not in denial. Maybe your reading comprehension is a little off tonight :wine: I never once denied that pitbulls can be agressive. They can be, so can any dog. All dogs have the pack instinct and agressive nature, some more than others. It's the owners' responsibility to learn about their animals before proceeding with ownership.

Now back to the topic. Report the incident.
the owner isn't 100% to blame. this is what bugs me about pit owners. they are in denial that the breed is inherently dangerous or they pacify it by saying, "other breeds are more aggressive". i believe pits top the aggression list.

 

jagec

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Originally posted by: RKS
I think Labs have more reported bites than Pit Bulls/ Staff. Terriors/etc.
Per capita, or overall? Because if it's overall, that doesn't mean much, now does it?

Originally posted by: RKS
I didn't say that. :roll:
You linked to info that is over 6 years old and UNRELATED to what I said. It doesn't contradict my point that a lot of other dogs bite just not with the strength of a PBT. Taking a tangent on what I said to distract from the whatever point you were tring to make is kinda funny though.
You're right, in the past 6 years the AKC has managed to breed all of those nasty aggressive genes out of pitbulls, fundamentally changing them from the dog they were in the 90's.

And clearly bites that cause injury and bites that cause death are completely unrelated in any way.
 

Rogodin2

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Wow! A 3 post consensus


Breed out the overly aggressive breeds.

Also-get the fvck out of Iraq.

And support your local Atheist Organization.

Rogo
 

Cdubneeddeal

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
I disagree to a point. In my opinion, the dog (pitbull or not) is not at fault for this incident. It's the owner who was careless with this type of breed of dog. Pitbulls take a lot of attention and training to make sure they're suitable for society which is obvious the owner didn't do a good enough job at. Please do not make a statement like that again regarding that most people who own pitbulls are idiots. That's false and bias.


Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
I'm not in denial. Maybe your reading comprehension is a little off tonight :wine: I never once denied that pitbulls can be agressive. They can be, so can any dog. All dogs have the pack instinct and agressive nature, some more than others. It's the owners' responsibility to learn about their animals before proceeding with ownership.

Now back to the topic. Report the incident.

So if you guys think pitbulls are all sweet, gentle family dogs, and pitbull owners are mostly smart and responsible, then how do you explain the statistics?

Sure, the "pitbull problem" is overblown by the media. But you can't deny that "improperly trained" pitbulls are aggressive and dangerous, and that there are a really large number of irresponsible owners who don't give them said training.

If they need that much training to be suitable for society, methinks that maybe they shouldn't be owned by any old idiot.

Ugh. Please re-read your first paragraph and then read mine. I never once said that pitbull owners are "Mostly smart and responsible". Unfortunately not many are. Your second paragraph is correct.

Even german shepards are not suitable for society if not trained right. Goes for any breed that has agressive tendancies.
 

Cdubneeddeal

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Was the other dog provoked in any way? How do you know it was an American? Just ruling out if this is shens or not.

The other dog being provoked is totally IRRELEVANT. The OP's dad was in HIS yard with his dog on a leash. The Pitbull was loose and running. The pitbull is at fault no matter what transpired. The owner is an idiot, as are most people who own Pitbulls. I would have shot the Pitbull in my yard and dealt with the consequences.

I disagree to a point. In my opinion, the dog (pitbull or not) is not at fault for this incident. It's the owner who was careless with this type of breed of dog. Pitbulls take a lot of attention and training to make sure they're suitable for society which is obvious the owner didn't do a good enough job at. Please do not make a statement like that again regarding that most people who own pitbulls are idiots. That's false and bias.

Most people who own Pitbulls are idiots. There, I said it again. I don't care if you own one and take offense. The operative word is MOST. Having a dog that cannot be trusted NOT to attack other animals or people says alot about the type of person who would own such a breed. The breed is rather useless as a pet but people with a penchant for "macho" things tend to get dogs of this type. You read about unprovoked Pitbull attacks all the time. There is definitely something wrong with this breed. They do not belong in neighborhoods with other people and animals. If you have to have one of these worthless dogs do so in the country.

Telling me the Pitbull owner in this case is at fault changes nothing. The dog attacked another dog on that dog's property. If it would have happened in my yard the Pitbull would have been dead.

Such a tough guy. Who's "macho" now?

All dogs can be agressive regardless of the breed. Do some homework on German Shepards and a small breed, Miniature Dobermans for example. All dogs can be agressive. It all depends on the owners. Pitbulls are great family pets, believe it or not. I've never met or had a dog with such a personailty as Pitbulls. But then again, the media says differently so it must be so.
did you skip over the report i sited? you Pitbull fanbois are in denial.

I'm not in denial. Maybe your reading comprehension is a little off tonight :wine: I never once denied that pitbulls can be agressive. They can be, so can any dog. All dogs have the pack instinct and agressive nature, some more than others. It's the owners' responsibility to learn about their animals before proceeding with ownership.

Now back to the topic. Report the incident.
the owner isn't 100% to blame. this is what bugs me about pit owners. they are in denial that the breed is inherently dangerous or they pacify it by saying, "other breeds are more aggressive". i believe pits top the aggression list.

Have you ever owned a Pitbull? Can you honestly say from statements posted tonight that they are one hundred percent true? Or are you basing your statements on what has been said in the media or on an internet site?
 

0roo0roo

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its why i carry a knife when i walk the dog. %#@ attack my dog and ill %@# stab it.

well atleast i'll try to i don't like the idea of trying to pry those monsters jaws off my dogs head with my bare hands.

we bred wolves into dogs by selecting for behavior and traits. so of course some dogs are sh*ttier than others regardless of owners training. maybe 9 outa 10 pitbulls are fine, but its that 1 pitbull that will ruin your #%@ day.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Was the other dog provoked in any way? How do you know it was an American? Just ruling out if this is shens or not.

The other dog being provoked is totally IRRELEVANT. The OP's dad was in HIS yard with his dog on a leash. The Pitbull was loose and running. The pitbull is at fault no matter what transpired. The owner is an idiot, as are most people who own Pitbulls. I would have shot the Pitbull in my yard and dealt with the consequences.

I disagree to a point. In my opinion, the dog (pitbull or not) is not at fault for this incident. It's the owner who was careless with this type of breed of dog. Pitbulls take a lot of attention and training to make sure they're suitable for society which is obvious the owner didn't do a good enough job at. Please do not make a statement like that again regarding that most people who own pitbulls are idiots. That's false and bias.

Most people who own Pitbulls are idiots. There, I said it again. I don't care if you own one and take offense. The operative word is MOST. Having a dog that cannot be trusted NOT to attack other animals or people says alot about the type of person who would own such a breed. The breed is rather useless as a pet but people with a penchant for "macho" things tend to get dogs of this type. You read about unprovoked Pitbull attacks all the time. There is definitely something wrong with this breed. They do not belong in neighborhoods with other people and animals. If you have to have one of these worthless dogs do so in the country.

Telling me the Pitbull owner in this case is at fault changes nothing. The dog attacked another dog on that dog's property. If it would have happened in my yard the Pitbull would have been dead.

Such a tough guy. Who's "macho" now?

All dogs can be agressive regardless of the breed. Do some homework on German Shepards and a small breed, Miniature Dobermans for example. All dogs can be agressive. It all depends on the owners. Pitbulls are great family pets, believe it or not. I've never met or had a dog with such a personailty as Pitbulls. But then again, the media says differently so it must be so.
did you skip over the report i sited? you Pitbull fanbois are in denial.

I'm not in denial. Maybe your reading comprehension is a little off tonight :wine: I never once denied that pitbulls can be agressive. They can be, so can any dog. All dogs have the pack instinct and agressive nature, some more than others. It's the owners' responsibility to learn about their animals before proceeding with ownership.

Now back to the topic. Report the incident.
the owner isn't 100% to blame. this is what bugs me about pit owners. they are in denial that the breed is inherently dangerous or they pacify it by saying, "other breeds are more aggressive". i believe pits top the aggression list.

Have you ever owned a Pitbull? Can you honestly say from statements posted tonight that they are one hundred percent true? Or are you basing your statements on what has been said in the media or on an internet site?
i'm not interested in owning one, but i have a friend who does.

next question.

 

Cdubneeddeal

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Originally posted by: Rogodin2
Do these aggressive breeds bring enough benefit to outweigh their hazard?

Rogo

In my opinion, I believe so. Pitbulls, in my experience, have a great personality and a great disposition. Unfortunately, they do have an agressive nature. If trained and socialized at an early age they can be the most loving of animals. I've owned two pitbulls (one full and one half chow), one boxer, one rotweiller, one husky mix, and two irish terriers (Random breed, I know). Out of all of them, the boxer I loved the most. With that said, I still loved the pits I had. I've never had a more loyal animal than the pits. Only reason why the pits aren't with me today is because I had to move and was unable to bring them with me. I was heartbroken.
 

Cdubneeddeal

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Was the other dog provoked in any way? How do you know it was an American? Just ruling out if this is shens or not.

The other dog being provoked is totally IRRELEVANT. The OP's dad was in HIS yard with his dog on a leash. The Pitbull was loose and running. The pitbull is at fault no matter what transpired. The owner is an idiot, as are most people who own Pitbulls. I would have shot the Pitbull in my yard and dealt with the consequences.

I disagree to a point. In my opinion, the dog (pitbull or not) is not at fault for this incident. It's the owner who was careless with this type of breed of dog. Pitbulls take a lot of attention and training to make sure they're suitable for society which is obvious the owner didn't do a good enough job at. Please do not make a statement like that again regarding that most people who own pitbulls are idiots. That's false and bias.

Most people who own Pitbulls are idiots. There, I said it again. I don't care if you own one and take offense. The operative word is MOST. Having a dog that cannot be trusted NOT to attack other animals or people says alot about the type of person who would own such a breed. The breed is rather useless as a pet but people with a penchant for "macho" things tend to get dogs of this type. You read about unprovoked Pitbull attacks all the time. There is definitely something wrong with this breed. They do not belong in neighborhoods with other people and animals. If you have to have one of these worthless dogs do so in the country.

Telling me the Pitbull owner in this case is at fault changes nothing. The dog attacked another dog on that dog's property. If it would have happened in my yard the Pitbull would have been dead.

Such a tough guy. Who's "macho" now?

All dogs can be agressive regardless of the breed. Do some homework on German Shepards and a small breed, Miniature Dobermans for example. All dogs can be agressive. It all depends on the owners. Pitbulls are great family pets, believe it or not. I've never met or had a dog with such a personailty as Pitbulls. But then again, the media says differently so it must be so.
did you skip over the report i sited? you Pitbull fanbois are in denial.

I'm not in denial. Maybe your reading comprehension is a little off tonight :wine: I never once denied that pitbulls can be agressive. They can be, so can any dog. All dogs have the pack instinct and agressive nature, some more than others. It's the owners' responsibility to learn about their animals before proceeding with ownership.

Now back to the topic. Report the incident.
the owner isn't 100% to blame. this is what bugs me about pit owners. they are in denial that the breed is inherently dangerous or they pacify it by saying, "other breeds are more aggressive". i believe pits top the aggression list.

Have you ever owned a Pitbull? Can you honestly say from statements posted tonight that they are one hundred percent true? Or are you basing your statements on what has been said in the media or on an internet site?
i'm not interested in owning one, but i have a friend who does.

next question.

And what does your friend say about her Pit? Probably the exact opposite of what your stating tonight? Does your friend know how much you despise her animal?
 

0roo0roo

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well its not like other dogs don't have great personalities. so even if they are equal in that aspect, the negatives still make them irresponsible to own, a bad choice. and well dogs are loving pets to their owners. thats the pack instinct and judging from that is not that meaningful. its when it clamps down on a stranger, a child it doesn't know or a strange dog, its home behavior goes out the window and it reverts back to its instincts either to attack or protect, it doesn't matter because the end result is horrible.
 

Rogodin2

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Cbubneeeddeal

So how many loyal pitbulls does it take to make the death of child worthwhile?

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jagec

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Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Please do not make a statement like that again regarding that most people who own pitbulls are idiots. That's false and bias.

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
I never once said that pitbull owners are "Mostly smart and responsible". Unfortunately not many are.

OK, we're making progress.

So, would you agree with a measure that provided some sort of check on the potential owner of a pitbull, to make sure they were up to the task?

I don't hate pitbulls, I don't think they should all be banned or anything silly like that, but neither am I foolish enough to think that no problem exists regarding them. True, the owners are usually to blame, not the dogs. But wouldn't it make sense, then, to try to combat this, instead of just throwing up our hands and saying "People are allowed to be as irresponsible as they like"?
 

Cdubneeddeal

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Please do not make a statement like that again regarding that most people who own pitbulls are idiots. That's false and bias.

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
I never once said that pitbull owners are "Mostly smart and responsible". Unfortunately not many are.

OK, we're making progress.

So, would you agree with a measure that provided some sort of check on the potential owner of a pitbull, to make sure they were up to the task?

I don't hate pitbulls, I don't think they should all be banned or anything silly like that, but neither am I foolish enough to think that no problem exists regarding them. True, the owners are usually to blame, not the dogs. But wouldn't it make sense, then, to try to combat this, instead of just throwing up our hands and saying "People are allowed to be as irresponsible as they like"?

Yes, I fully agree. And to adopt any Pitbull from any shelter the owner goes through a lengthy process before taking the animal home (Well most shelters do this). The employees of the shelter will go to the owners' home to inspect the property. And usually run a background check on the prospective owners as well.

In your opinion, what would be the proper way of trying to combat this?
 

lyssword

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I believe all pitbulls should be banned. If I had the chance I would shoot them all. As far as German Shepperds go, their anger is more reflective of what their owner intends, so all that german shepperd does is directly owner's fault. Pitbulls on the other hand don't deserve to exist as pets, It's like having a giant poisonous snake as a pet..ban them..
 
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