An interesting thought about tipping..

[imported_JoePa]

I will tip based on how I feel I was served. Price of the meal is a slight consideration. I have in the past given a penny for really bad service (this way the waiter does not think I simply forgot) and I have given a $10 for a $5 meal for an absolutely outstanding waitress. And it has nothing to do with male or female or attractiveness. The two examples are just that, examples.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
Work as a server, then, and only then, will you understand. In the meantime, here's a few rules.

Learn How to Tip...

The next time your out eating at a resturant, look at your waiter, you think they are really happy to be doing that job? the answer is no, they are not. but its what we do, and we do it for the money so please help them out. Its a tougher job than you think and you should pay them accordingly!
This is for everybody who goes to a restaurant and has ever footed the bill.
OK. I'm tired of those people flooding the restaurants w/o any knowledge of how to tip. Here is a short guide for the general public to follow. Feel free to print out and store in your wallet and/or purse.


1. If you are not a child and get something from the kids menu (which we DO NOT have to do), tip as if you received an adult meal and leave the server an extra $1 @ least!

2. If you have children, DO NOT let them, open and dump anything on the table (ie; salt, sugar, etc). IF YOU DO, you must leave an extra $5 for the server to clean up YOUR CHILDS mess & to restock the now unusable wasted items. We are neither their babysitter nor their parent. The least you can do is pay us for the extra work. Also make sure you control your kids and don't let them scream or run around the restraunt. It's very distracting not to mention dangerous if they get ran over by a server with hot food in their hands.

3. If you feel the necessity to stay for longer than 15 minutes after you pay, its an extra $3 every 30 minutes (including the first 15min). We make our money from the tables. If you are in one and we cant seat it, we CANT make money.

4. Telling a server they are the best or excellent service is not a tip. If we are good, let us know by leaving us more money. We cant pay our bills on compliments. Its not that we mind the praise; its just that you say were good and then leave 10 %...this is not good. I like hearing that I did a good job, but its like in a relationship... you can tell a girl you love her a thousand times, but ACTIONS speak louder than WORDS. Tell me, but show me i did a good job with that MONEY.

5. Prayer cards and any other religious pamphlet is NOT a tip. It is insulting that you assume we are w/o religion and must save us. Again, like ..4, we cant pay bills w/prayer cards. P.S. We'd go to church on Sundays if it wasn't mandatory to work on Sundays because EVERYONE who goes to church follows it by eating out. Also don't try to preach to us while we are working. We don't go to your work and put you down so don't do it to us.

6. We know that you have just given money to God, but Sundays are not discounted tip day. 8%=NOT a good tip.

7. It is not 1960. Cost of living has gone up dramatically since then. 18% is the MINIMUM amount of what you should be tipping your servers. Just look at the tax line and multiple by 2-3, this gives you your minimum tip amount. Remember, our companies pay us 2.13 an hour! And we are taxed on 10 percent of your meal automatically anyway. So if you dont leave a tip, we end up paying for your meal.
Let me explain a little clearer. When you pay the bill, you are paying for your food. When you pay the tip, you are paying for the SERVICE.

hahah these rules are soo fricken stupid.

1) kinda agree. need a minimum ammount you should tip if service is ok.

2) i do tip more if my kids make a mess. depends on the bill though.

3) hahahah this one is just stupid. I am not going to tip her $3 for every 15 min im there.

4) nope 10% is for avarage service 15% for great.

5) i agree. WTF thats just silly

6) yeap. does not matter that it is sunday.

7) 18% minimum? haha FVCK YOU. NOTHING for crappy service %10 for avarage and %15 for good. %20 for great. but don't get that often. never see great waitress's anymore.

 

[Ime]

I tip 15-20% average. If I tip 10% it's a sure sign I hated the place and am never going back.

 

[crystal]

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
Work as a server, then, and only then, will you understand. In the meantime, here's a few rules.

Learn How to Tip...

The next time your out eating at a resturant, look at your waiter, you think they are really happy to be doing that job? the answer is no, they are not. but its what we do, and we do it for the money so please help them out. Its a tougher job than you think and you should pay them accordingly!
This is for everybody who goes to a restaurant and has ever footed the bill.
OK. I'm tired of those people flooding the restaurants w/o any knowledge of how to tip. Here is a short guide for the general public to follow. Feel free to print out and store in your wallet and/or purse.


1. If you are not a child and get something from the kids menu (which we DO NOT have to do), tip as if you received an adult meal and leave the server an extra $1 @ least!

2. If you have children, DO NOT let them, open and dump anything on the table (ie; salt, sugar, etc). IF YOU DO, you must leave an extra $5 for the server to clean up YOUR CHILDS mess & to restock the now unusable wasted items. We are neither their babysitter nor their parent. The least you can do is pay us for the extra work. Also make sure you control your kids and don't let them scream or run around the restraunt. It's very distracting not to mention dangerous if they get ran over by a server with hot food in their hands.

3. If you feel the necessity to stay for longer than 15 minutes after you pay, its an extra $3 every 30 minutes (including the first 15min). We make our money from the tables. If you are in one and we cant seat it, we CANT make money.

4. Telling a server they are the best or excellent service is not a tip. If we are good, let us know by leaving us more money. We cant pay our bills on compliments. Its not that we mind the praise; its just that you say were good and then leave 10 %...this is not good. I like hearing that I did a good job, but its like in a relationship... you can tell a girl you love her a thousand times, but ACTIONS speak louder than WORDS. Tell me, but show me i did a good job with that MONEY.

5. Prayer cards and any other religious pamphlet is NOT a tip. It is insulting that you assume we are w/o religion and must save us. Again, like ..4, we cant pay bills w/prayer cards. P.S. We'd go to church on Sundays if it wasn't mandatory to work on Sundays because EVERYONE who goes to church follows it by eating out. Also don't try to preach to us while we are working. We don't go to your work and put you down so don't do it to us.

6. We know that you have just given money to God, but Sundays are not discounted tip day. 8%=NOT a good tip.

7. It is not 1960. Cost of living has gone up dramatically since then. 18% is the MINIMUM amount of what you should be tipping your servers. Just look at the tax line and multiple by 2-3, this gives you your minimum tip amount. Remember, our companies pay us 2.13 an hour! And we are taxed on 10 percent of your meal automatically anyway. So if you dont leave a tip, we end up paying for your meal.
Let me explain a little clearer. When you pay the bill, you are paying for your food. When you pay the tip, you are paying for the SERVICE.

What kind of crack is this?

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious

Originally posted by: Malak
I tip based on service, not the bill. That is the entire point of the tip. Good service, good tip. Bad service... well sometimes they just don't deserve a tip.

If they got your food from the kitchen to your table, they deserve something.

By simply saying that, if they get the food to the table 5 hours after it was ordered and put up to take out you should still tip.

I never base a tip off of how much was spent. Either way, the wait staff's job is the same.

People who work the job can go on all day about how you should give them this or that, but I really don't care. I don't care if your baby's daddy isn't paying child support so you need a bigger tip, I don't care if you need some extra cash to pay the bills this month, that has NOTHING to do with the quality of service you give me.

You're welcome to hate me for it, but if you're not going to make me feel welcome in your restaurant, I'm not going to give you money for doing a job you didn't do. I'm not some hardass that tracks you on a stopwatch or something, but it's pretty obvious when you get bad service. I know I'm not the only person there, but if you don't give me some attention, I'm not giving you anything.

If you're good at your job, you could easily make $100 in one shift, which is as much as I make in my crap factory job that is helping me pay off my college loans. You get flexible scheduling, a couple nights a week off, and although some nights are rough, you can have fun at work. There's a reason some people will wait for their entire lives, and it's also true that some people are going to think the world should pity them no matter what job they are at.

I've worked in restaurants before (not as wait staff, though) and I know that it's not as bad as people who are there want you to believe, so don't feed me some BS about it being such a crappy job... the ONLY thing that sucks about foodservice is that some customers SUCK... I am NOT one of those customers, so I will NOT tip you more because of it.

And for those of you that think I'm just a non-tipping jerk... I have a friend that works at a Max and Erma's... everytime he takes us out and puts the meals on his food allowance, I tip nearly the cost of what the meal would have been if I had to pay for it... when the waiter/waitress didn't have to do a damn thing different.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: z0mb13
So lets say person A and person B goes to a regular restaurant

Person A gets a chicken sandwich, while person B gets lobster and steak

Why is it person B has to pay more for tip, since it does not require the waiter (or waitress) more effort to serve him?

Because it's customary to tip based off the bill total.
If person B has enough cash to get lobster and steak he should have enough to throw a few more bones to the server.

How can you conclude that the person who got the lobster and steak has enough cash to throw more at the server just based merely on the fact that they ordered lobster and steak?

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: sleepmachine

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
Work as a server, then, and only then, will you understand. In the meantime, here's a few rules.

Learn How to Tip...

The next time your out eating at a resturant, look at your waiter, you think they are really happy to be doing that job? the answer is no, they are not. but its what we do, and we do it for the money so please help them out. Its a tougher job than you think and you should pay them accordingly!
This is for everybody who goes to a restaurant and has ever footed the bill.
OK. I'm tired of those people flooding the restaurants w/o any knowledge of how to tip. Here is a short guide for the general public to follow. Feel free to print out and store in your wallet and/or purse.


1. If you are not a child and get something from the kids menu (which we DO NOT have to do), tip as if you received an adult meal and leave the server an extra $1 @ least!

2. If you have children, DO NOT let them, open and dump anything on the table (ie; salt, sugar, etc). IF YOU DO, you must leave an extra $5 for the server to clean up YOUR CHILDS mess & to restock the now unusable wasted items. We are neither their babysitter nor their parent. The least you can do is pay us for the extra work. Also make sure you control your kids and don't let them scream or run around the restraunt. It's very distracting not to mention dangerous if they get ran over by a server with hot food in their hands.

3. If you feel the necessity to stay for longer than 15 minutes after you pay, its an extra $3 every 30 minutes (including the first 15min). We make our money from the tables. If you are in one and we cant seat it, we CANT make money.

4. Telling a server they are the best or excellent service is not a tip. If we are good, let us know by leaving us more money. We cant pay our bills on compliments. Its not that we mind the praise; its just that you say were good and then leave 10 %...this is not good. I like hearing that I did a good job, but its like in a relationship... you can tell a girl you love her a thousand times, but ACTIONS speak louder than WORDS. Tell me, but show me i did a good job with that MONEY.

5. Prayer cards and any other religious pamphlet is NOT a tip. It is insulting that you assume we are w/o religion and must save us. Again, like ..4, we cant pay bills w/prayer cards. P.S. We'd go to church on Sundays if it wasn't mandatory to work on Sundays because EVERYONE who goes to church follows it by eating out. Also don't try to preach to us while we are working. We don't go to your work and put you down so don't do it to us.

6. We know that you have just given money to God, but Sundays are not discounted tip day. 8%=NOT a good tip.

7. It is not 1960. Cost of living has gone up dramatically since then. 18% is the MINIMUM amount of what you should be tipping your servers. Just look at the tax line and multiple by 2-3, this gives you your minimum tip amount. Remember, our companies pay us 2.13 an hour! And we are taxed on 10 percent of your meal automatically anyway. So if you dont leave a tip, we end up paying for your meal.
Let me explain a little clearer. When you pay the bill, you are paying for your food. When you pay the tip, you are paying for the SERVICE.

where did you find this? it makes me want to tip them less.

i agree.

 

[stinkynathan]

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
Work as a server, then, and only then, will you understand. In the meantime, here's a few rules.

Learn How to Tip...

The next time your out eating at a resturant, look at your waiter, you think they are really happy to be doing that job? the answer is no, they are not. but its what we do, and we do it for the money so please help them out. Its a tougher job than you think and you should pay them accordingly...

BLAH! BLAH! BLAH!

WHINE! WHINE! WHINE!

BITCH! BITCH! BITCH!

sorry, stopped reading at that point...

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: CTrain
Good God, please ban all tip threads from now on.
Like every other tip threads, it has turned into a I tip/I don't mindless arguement once again.
Do we need to go through the same debate for the 100th time ???

As long as we're banning threads we need to stop with the "Why Cali Rules!" arguments too.
In fact, I'll have to do a thorough search. I think we are already overdue.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: stinkynathan

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
Work as a server, then, and only then, will you understand. In the meantime, here's a few rules.

Learn How to Tip...

The next time your out eating at a resturant, look at your waiter, you think they are really happy to be doing that job? the answer is no, they are not. but its what we do, and we do it for the money so please help them out. Its a tougher job than you think and you should pay them accordingly...

BLAH! BLAH! BLAH!

WHINE! WHINE! WHINE!

BITCH! BITCH! BITCH!

sorry, stopped reading at that point...

Entirely agree. All jobs are tough in their own manner and just because waiting is unskilled labor doesn't mean it's an exception.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: CTrain
Good God, please ban all tip threads from now on.
Like every other tip threads, it has turned into a I tip/I don't mindless arguement once again.
Do we need to go through the same debate for the 100th time ???

Only if you stop making threads about your car getting stolen or moving again. There are about as many of those, too.

 

[JS80]

I usually tip $1 per person.

 

[daveymark]

all the tomfoolery in this thread is why I support an hourly wage w/ no tips for all servers. Bump it up to $12 an hour at least - I'd say closer to $15 would be acceptable, considering it's only a 5 hour shift most of the time - and raise the price of that burger to $15. Then the cheapasses can stay the f home because they "won't pay $15 for a burger" It's win/win for everybody. Servers don't have to deal with cheapskates, and cheap diners get their way by not having to tip.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: daveymark
all the tomfoolery in this thread is why I support an hourly wage w/ no tips for all servers. Bump it up to $12 an hour at least - I'd say closer to $15 would be acceptable, considering it's only a 5 hour shift most of the time - and raise the price of that burger to $15. Then the cheapasses can stay the f home because they "won't pay $15 for a burger" It's win/win for everybody. Servers don't have to deal with cheapskates, and cheap diners get their way by not having to tip.

hahah great idea. lets put a LOT of people out of work. NOT to mention close down a a bunch of resturants.

you are right. cheapasses wont pay $15 for a burger. god knows i wouldnt. not to mention i really do not know many people who would.

 

[MattCo]

I agree with tipping but this is idiotic:

7. It is not 1960. Cost of living has gone up dramatically since then. 18% is the MINIMUM amount of what you should be tipping your servers. Just look at the tax line and multiple by 2-3, this gives you your minimum tip amount. Remember, our companies pay us 2.13 an hour! And we are taxed on 10 percent of your meal automatically anyway. So if you dont leave a tip, we end up paying for your meal.
Let me explain a little clearer. When you pay the bill, you are paying for your food. When you pay the tip, you are paying for the SERVICE.

Thats the reason for it being a % dumbass. The price of food has increased as well (you said it yourself in the Cost of Living remark), so you already are getting a higher tip than in 1960.

-MC

 

[SampSon]

If two people squabble over how much of the tip they put in, they are cheap bastards who shouldn't be going out to eat.

 

[shira]

There's a very good reason why you should tip $2 on a $10 plate of spaghetti and $30 on a sumptuous turf and surf for two at a high-class joint: The waiter won't spit in your food the next time you visit.

 

[Compton]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: CTrain
Good God, please ban all tip threads from now on.
Like every other tip threads, it has turned into a I tip/I don't mindless arguement once again.
Do we need to go through the same debate for the 100th time ???

Only if you stop making threads about your car getting stolen or moving again. There are about as many of those, too.

:laugh:

 

[daveymark]

you people need to watch the movie "Waiting"
- especially you cheapskates. That movie is dead on with how a restaurant is run. Former servers will find the movie hilarious because it's true.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: daveymark
you people need to watch the movie "Waiting"
- especially you cheapskates. That movie is dead on with how a restaurant is run. Former servers will find the movie hilarious because it's true.

I find it true because I can see the similarities in making and delivering pizza. I love the movie.

 

[middlehead]

Originally posted by: DOSfan
Because the tips are shared (or at least, were shared in the past) among all the employees of the retaurant. The cooks/chefs, waiters/waitresses, busboys, etc. Not an even split mind you, but still...

Unless I know for a fact that this is the case, I don't tip based on a percent, I just leave a few dollars.

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: daveymark
you people need to watch the movie "Waiting"
- especially you cheapskates. That movie is dead on with how a restaurant is run. Former servers will find the movie hilarious because it's true.

I find it true because I can see the similarities in making and delivering pizza. I love the movie.

Not to mention Ryan Reynolds is eye candy. it's good to see he's still cut. I could grate cheese on those abs

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: daveymark
you people need to watch the movie "Waiting"
- especially you cheapskates. That movie is dead on with how a restaurant is run. Former servers will find the movie hilarious because it's true.

I find it true because I can see the similarities in making and delivering pizza. I love the movie.

Not to mention Ryan Reynolds is eye candy. it's good to see he's still cut. I could grate cheese on those abs

OMFG - YES!@!

 

[SolMiester]

So, where I come from tipping is an act by consumers for service/goods over and above that required/expected and is given as a personel token of your gratitude. In the US, is it an expected imbursement?, why doesnt the costs of staff get taking into consideration of goods/service. Then the tip can be given in form it should be, rather than a subsidy for low wages

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: SolMiester
So, where I come from tipping is an act by consumers for service/goods over and above that required/expected and is given as a personel token of your gratitude. In the US, is it an expected imbursement?, why doesnt the costs of staff get taking into consideration of goods/service. Then the tip can be given in form it should be, rather than a subsidy for low wages

No it's not, but the waitstaff, who, for whatever reason, can't find a job that pays more money thinks it is.

It's simple: You do a half-way decent job then I'll tip half-way decent, you do great, then I'll tip great. If you give me poor-service then I'll give this tip: "Next time, give better service" on the back of the credit-receipt.

I have zero sympathy for waiters, pizza delivery drivers, and anyone else who's primary income is based off tips. If you don't like your job then find another. If you're ok with it then give the people paying your paycheck some damn service.