An Israeli point of view...

[AcidicFury]

Originally posted by: Edge3D
You are a complete joker.

The Palestinians are fighting for "freedom of tyranny."

All credibility just lost pal.

End of conversation.

Are you high? Do you seriously believe that evicting people from their houses and forcing them to live in refuge camps isn't tyranny? If anything, Americans know no such thing as tyranny.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
How the hell do you know that though? Because someone wrote it down??

Nobody wrote that down. Humanity is asleep suffering from a disease, the disease of self hate. Occasionally people get free from that disease. Such people are called the awake among other things. He who is awake knows who else is also awake, a property of being awake. When you are awake there's only one thing to do, to awaken those who sleep. Such people will unite to tackle the job and form a secret school for the awakening of man. Clearly the school brought the Law and sleeping mechanical man used the law as a chain so next the school brought the son on man to free us from the law. Probably Mohamed cam to properly homogenize the two. The school is of course secret because when you're asleep you don't know what's going on. But surely you can see in the Jesus thing there was a coordinated effort by many to save humanity from sin which is really nothing more than self hate. It takes titanic faith to feel yourself forgiven, just titanic hate so it really helps if you feel the guy doing the forgiving is God, since he is anyway is a somewhat different way.

Wtf are you taking about?

Religion is based on things that were written. Nobody can sit there and say that what was written is 100% true. For all we know Jesus survived the crucification. Who knows. People's problem is that they believe everything they have read especially when it comes to religion.

It's a secret.

 

[Tinkerhell]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
How the hell do you know that though? Because someone wrote it down??

Nobody wrote that down. Humanity is asleep suffering from a disease, the disease of self hate. Occasionally people get free from that disease. Such people are called the awake among other things. He who is awake knows who else is also awake, a property of being awake. When you are awake there's only one thing to do, to awaken those who sleep. Such people will unite to tackle the job and form a secret school for the awakening of man. Clearly the school brought the Law and sleeping mechanical man used the law as a chain so next the school brought the son on man to free us from the law. Probably Mohamed cam to properly homogenize the two. The school is of course secret because when you're asleep you don't know what's going on. But surely you can see in the Jesus thing there was a coordinated effort by many to save humanity from sin which is really nothing more than self hate. It takes titanic faith to feel yourself forgiven, just titanic hate so it really helps if you feel the guy doing the forgiving is God, since he is anyway is a somewhat different way.

Wtf are you taking about?

Religion is based on things that were written. Nobody can sit there and say that what was written is 100% true. For all we know Jesus survived the crucification. Who knows. People's problem is that they believe everything they have read especially when it comes to religion.

It's a secret.

Apparantly...

 

[MAW1082]

Israel is by far the most aggressive nation in the Middle East. It's no wonder it doesn't have warm relations with the coutries it invadades.

 

[Tinkerhell]

Originally posted by: MAW1082
Israel is by far the most aggressive nation in the Middle East. It's no wonder it doesn't have warm relations with the coutries it invadades.

They're "aggressive" for a reason, retard. They're protecting themselves from terrorists.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: MAW1082
Israel is by far the most aggressive nation in the Middle East. It's no wonder it doesn't have warm relations with the coutries it invadades.

They're "aggressive" for a reason, retard. They're protecting themselves from terrorists.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

 

[Tinkerhell]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: MAW1082
Israel is by far the most aggressive nation in the Middle East. It's no wonder it doesn't have warm relations with the coutries it invadades.

They're "aggressive" for a reason, retard. They're protecting themselves from terrorists.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Go live there, read a little history, and then come back. ok?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: MAW1082
Israel is by far the most aggressive nation in the Middle East. It's no wonder it doesn't have warm relations with the coutries it invadades.

They're "aggressive" for a reason, retard. They're protecting themselves from terrorists.

Well, when you illegally occupy land in another country, you sorta open yourself up to terrorist attacks.


Sound familiar to another situation in the Middle East?

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: MAW1082
Israel is by far the most aggressive nation in the Middle East. It's no wonder it doesn't have warm relations with the coutries it invadades.

They're "aggressive" for a reason, retard. They're protecting themselves from terrorists.

I would say they are aggressive to steal more land.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: MAW1082
Israel is by far the most aggressive nation in the Middle East. It's no wonder it doesn't have warm relations with the coutries it invadades.

They're "aggressive" for a reason, retard. They're protecting themselves from terrorists.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Go live there, read a little history, and then come back. ok?

Maybe that's the problem, I need to live in Israel and learn their version of history.

You ever hear of Irgun?

 

[Tinkerhell]

Originally posted by: Spencer278

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: MAW1082
Israel is by far the most aggressive nation in the Middle East. It's no wonder it doesn't have warm relations with the coutries it invadades.

They're "aggressive" for a reason, retard. They're protecting themselves from terrorists.

I would say they are aggressive to steal more land.

Steal land from who?? That land is not Palestians land.

 

[Tinkerhell]

"Moses led the Israelites, or a portion of them, out of Egypt. Under Joshua, they conquered the tribes and city states of Canaan.  Based on biblical traditions, it is estimated that king David conquered Jerusalem about 1000 B.C. and established an Israelite kingdom over much of Canaan including parts of Transjordan. The kingdom was divided into Judea in the south and Israel in the north following the death of David's son, Solomon. Jerusalem remained the center of Jewish sovereignty and of Jewish worship whenever the Jews exercised sovereignty over the country in the subsequent period, up to the Jewish revolt in 133 AD.

About 61 B.C., Roman troops under Pompei invaded Judah and sacked Jerusalem. The land came under Roman control. The Romans called the area Judea. Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem in the early years of Roman rule. Roman rulers put down Jewish revolts in about A.D. 70 and A.D. 132. In A.D. 135, the Romans drove the Jews out of Jerusalem. The Romans named the area Palaestina, at about this time. The name Palaestina, which  became Palestine in English, is derived from Herodotus, who used the term Palaistine Syria to refer to the entire southern part of Syria, meaning "Philistine Syria." Most of the Jews who continued to practice their religion fled or were forcibly exiled from Palestine, eventually forming a second Jewish Diaspora. However, Jewish communities continued to exist in Galilee, the northernmost part of Palestine. Palestine was governed by the Roman Empire until the fourth century A.D. (300's) and then by the Byzantine Empire. In time, Christianity spread to most of Palestine. The population consisted of Jewish converts to Christianity and paganism, peoples imported by the Romans, and others who had probably inhabited Palestine continuously.

The Assyrians   conquered Israel in 722 or 721 B.C. The Babylonians conquered Judah around 586 B.C.  destroyed Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem, and exiled a large number of Jews.  About 50 years later, the Persian king Cyrus conquered Babylonia. Cyrus allowed a group of Jews from Babylonia to rebuild Jerusalem and settle in it. However, a large number of Jews remained in Babylonia, forming the first Jewish Diaspora. After the reestablishment of a Jewish state or protectorate, the Babylonian exiles maintained contact with authorities there. The Persians ruled the land from about 530 to 331 B.C. Alexander the Great then conquered the Persian Empire. After Alexander's death in 323 B.C., his generals divided the empire."

Palestine is a Roman word. These people that call themselves Palestians are not the real Palestians. They are arabs from other countries who went into Israel. They have no claim over this land.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: Spencer278

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: MAW1082
Israel is by far the most aggressive nation in the Middle East. It's no wonder it doesn't have warm relations with the coutries it invadades.

They're "aggressive" for a reason, retard. They're protecting themselves from terrorists.

I would say they are aggressive to steal more land.

Steal land from who?? That land is not Palestians land.

Then whose is it? If that's not Palestinian land, then Israel does not have a place to call home either.

Wow, lots of that original Palestinian land already gobbled up

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Based on biblical traditions, it is estimated that king David conquered Jerusalem about 1000 B.C. and established an Israelite kingdom over much of Canaan including parts of Transjordan

Oh, so they conquered it from someone living there before them?

See...it's not theirs.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Palestine is a Roman word. These people that all themselves Palestians are not the real Palestians. They are arabs from other countries who went into Israel.

I've heard of similar arguments that the Israelis in Israel are not true decendents either, that they are from Khazar. Of course, I dont believe that stuff but someone of your gullibility may give it a second thought.

 

[Tinkerhell]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Based on biblical traditions, it is estimated that king David conquered Jerusalem about 1000 B.C. and established an Israelite kingdom over much of Canaan including parts of Transjordan

Oh, so they conquered it from someone living there before them?

See...it's not theirs.

Well it certainly isn't the suicide bombers' land, either.

 

[AcidicFury]

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Based on biblical traditions, it is estimated that king David conquered Jerusalem about 1000 B.C. and established an Israelite kingdom over much of Canaan including parts of Transjordan

Oh, so they conquered it from someone living there before them?

See...it's not theirs.

Well it certainly isn't the suicide bombers' land, either.

But the suicide bombers aren't invading, are they?

 

[Tinkerhell]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Palestine is a Roman word. These people that all themselves Palestians are not the real Palestians. They are arabs from other countries who went into Israel.

I've heard of similar arguments that the Israelis in Israel are not true decendents either, that they are from Khazar. Of course, I dont believe that stuff but someone of your gullibility may give it a second thought.

You know nothing about this subject. You are going to sit here and say that the arabs that call themselves Palestians are the decendents of the people who were there when the ROMANS conquered Israel. They came from other Arab countires. Most Israelis are Jewish. Are you saying that they aren't true decendents of Judaism?

 

[AcidicFury]

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Palestine is a Roman word. These people that all themselves Palestians are not the real Palestians. They are arabs from other countries who went into Israel.

I've heard of similar arguments that the Israelis in Israel are not true decendents either, that they are from Khazar. Of course, I dont believe that stuff but someone of your gullibility may give it a second thought.

You know nothing about this subject. You are going to sit here and say that the arabs that call themselves Palestians are the decendents of the people who were there when the ROMANS conquered Israel. They came from other Arab countires. Most Israelis are Jewish. Are you saying that they aren't true decendents of Judaism?

And you do know something about the subject? All I know is that the Jews LEFT the Holy Land, moved to Europe and other places, and then came back in 1948, invading land that wasn't theirs in the first place.

 

[Tinkerhell]

Originally posted by: AcidicFury

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Based on biblical traditions, it is estimated that king David conquered Jerusalem about 1000 B.C. and established an Israelite kingdom over much of Canaan including parts of Transjordan

Oh, so they conquered it from someone living there before them?

See...it's not theirs.

Well it certainly isn't the suicide bombers' land, either.

But the suicide bombers aren't invading, are they?

No they are killing people. Why don't you learn what type of people the Palestians are. They preach suicide, especially to their children. They're sick people. Sadly they are brainwashed. Young children are taught at a young age to want to become suicide bombers. They strap bombs on themselves and blow up busloads of children. How can you possibly side with them? Israelis are invading because they are terrorists.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Based on biblical traditions, it is estimated that king David conquered Jerusalem about 1000 B.C. and established an Israelite kingdom over much of Canaan including parts of Transjordan

Oh, so they conquered it from someone living there before them?

See...it's not theirs.

Well it certainly isn't the suicide bombers' land, either.

Ah...so that makes it ok for Israel to illegally occupy the Gaza?

 

[Tinkerhell]

Originally posted by: AcidicFury

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Palestine is a Roman word. These people that all themselves Palestians are not the real Palestians. They are arabs from other countries who went into Israel.

I've heard of similar arguments that the Israelis in Israel are not true decendents either, that they are from Khazar. Of course, I dont believe that stuff but someone of your gullibility may give it a second thought.

You know nothing about this subject. You are going to sit here and say that the arabs that call themselves Palestians are the decendents of the people who were there when the ROMANS conquered Israel. They came from other Arab countires. Most Israelis are Jewish. Are you saying that they aren't true decendents of Judaism?

And you do know something about the subject? All I know is that the Jews LEFT the Holy Land, moved to Europe and other places, and then came back in 1948, invading land that wasn't theirs in the first place.

Who's land is it then?

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: AcidicFury

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Based on biblical traditions, it is estimated that king David conquered Jerusalem about 1000 B.C. and established an Israelite kingdom over much of Canaan including parts of Transjordan

Oh, so they conquered it from someone living there before them?

See...it's not theirs.

Well it certainly isn't the suicide bombers' land, either.

But the suicide bombers aren't invading, are they?

No they are killing people. Why don't you learn what type of people the Palestians are. They preach suicide, especially to their children. They're sick people. Sadly they are brainwashed. Young children are taught at a young age to want to become suicide bombers. They strap bombs on themselves and blow up busloads of children. How can you possibly side with them? Israelis are invading because they are terrorists.

Funny, the Palestinians say the same things about Israelis. Imagine that.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: AcidicFury

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Palestine is a Roman word. These people that all themselves Palestians are not the real Palestians. They are arabs from other countries who went into Israel.

I've heard of similar arguments that the Israelis in Israel are not true decendents either, that they are from Khazar. Of course, I dont believe that stuff but someone of your gullibility may give it a second thought.

You know nothing about this subject. You are going to sit here and say that the arabs that call themselves Palestians are the decendents of the people who were there when the ROMANS conquered Israel. They came from other Arab countires. Most Israelis are Jewish. Are you saying that they aren't true decendents of Judaism?

And you do know something about the subject? All I know is that the Jews LEFT the Holy Land, moved to Europe and other places, and then came back in 1948, invading land that wasn't theirs in the first place.

Who's land is it then?

Looks to me like it was Palestine

 

[AcidicFury]

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: AcidicFury

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Palestine is a Roman word. These people that all themselves Palestians are not the real Palestians. They are arabs from other countries who went into Israel.

I've heard of similar arguments that the Israelis in Israel are not true decendents either, that they are from Khazar. Of course, I dont believe that stuff but someone of your gullibility may give it a second thought.

You know nothing about this subject. You are going to sit here and say that the arabs that call themselves Palestians are the decendents of the people who were there when the ROMANS conquered Israel. They came from other Arab countires. Most Israelis are Jewish. Are you saying that they aren't true decendents of Judaism?

And you do know something about the subject? All I know is that the Jews LEFT the Holy Land, moved to Europe and other places, and then came back in 1948, invading land that wasn't theirs in the first place.

Who's land is it then?

The Israelis LEFT the land the land, so the Palestinians basically inherited it. If someone leaves a house and says you can have it, are you expecting them to invade you when they come back?