Originally posted by: arcticool
Still nobody can talk about the topic at hand???
Does the 3.4-3.6 anand says to *expect* from an e4300 reflect production parts? YES or NO?
Does the DS3 board in production work in the 9x350 to 9x380 range? YES or NO?
DO ANAND PARTS MATCH PRODUCTION PARTS? YES OR NO?
Here is what you're missing, just because anand says its expected to run in a certain range, doesn't mean ******. The company rates it to operate at the given frequency, anythign obtained after that is extra. You said it yourself that there are about 1-2 others in addition to anand that got chips that have performed fairly close to his results. Given the number of variables in OC, that is pretty good. But, you're jumpling to conclusions about the mfg's supplying binned parts to anand. Saying that anand got binned parts is saying that the others who had similar results got binned parts as well, there is no definitive proof. Granted there is the publicity speculation that one would get if they submit a "binned" chip to the authority on hardware reviews, but you cannot prove that. You can speculate all you want, but you will never be able to prove that, which is why this thread is making no progress. I can see where you're comming from on the matter, but there just isn't definitive proof.
Again, with the ds3 fsb hole, theres some who have gotten it to work, others who haven't. But it all comes down to proving that the mfg's are actually feeding binned parts. But there is nothing to be done because the part operates in the mfg's guarnteed specs.
And to answer your final question, no they do not. A lot of the parts anand and other review sites recieve are unfinished parts. Does this mean they are custom built or binned, no, there is no proof that they are. Some times in early production phases certain aspects of the board will function better than others, but others will remain nonfunctional. When the part is finaly ready for production, its performance can be totatlly different. But from the way you have presented your argument in this thread, you do not provide definitive evidence in proving you're point, and its near impossible to do. You
sound like an expierenced user, in which case you should know not to buy products based on 1 review that isn't even based on the production board. And to quote from your op, you're not an unlucky smuck who decided to buy based off of one guide, you're a misinformed smuck who failed to think logically about his decision.