Another freaking insane pharmacist

[preCRT]

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/nation/8206973.htm

If you can't fill a prescription for birth control pills, get the heck out of the industry.

 

[KK]

Stupid ass religious people, if they aren't terrorists, they're wackos.

KK

 

[bozack]

He had told the managing pharmacist that he would not fill contraceptive prescriptions because they violated his religious beliefs.

If this is true then seems like he did a good job of CYA....

 

[maluckey]

Lack of tolerance, and instant labeling of others, shows immaturity and lack of understanding. Think before you spout off.

Last time I checked, these drugs aren't required to live, and pharmacies and/or pharmacists can and do have the right to not fill any prescription they deem not necessary, or prescriptions not in the best interest of the patient. They are not required to transfer anything to anyone. My advice would be to not deal with this pharmacy, or those like it if it affects your sensibilities. Why didn't the woman in question just call the doctor, and have the doctor write out another prescription, and send it to the pharmacy of her choice? She would have had less stress, and likely spent les time to get her prescription filled.

That being said, I think that it's bad for business, but that's the choice the pharmacy made when they hired their pharmacist. I hope that the pharmacists boss knew he was like this when he hired him, otherwise, it's likely time to find another job.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: maluckey
Lack of tolerance, and instant labeling of others, shows immaturity and lack of understanding. Think before you spout off.

Last time I checked, these drugs aren't required to live, and pharmacies and/or pharmacists can and do have the right to not fill any prescription they deem not necessary, or prescriptions not in the best interest of the patient. They are not required to transfer anything to anyone. My advice would be to not deal with this pharmacy, or those like it if it affects your sensibilities. Why didn't the woman in question just call the doctor, and have the doctor write out another prescription, and send it to the pharmacy of her choice? She would have had less stress, and likely spent les time to get her prescription filled.

That being said, I think that it's bad for business, but that's the choice the pharmacy made when they hired their pharmacist. I hope that the pharmacists boss knew he was like this when he hired him, otherwise, it's likely time to find another job.

He had told the managing pharmacist that he would not fill contraceptive prescriptions because they violated his religious beliefs.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: maluckey
Lack of tolerance, and instant labeling of others, shows immaturity and lack of understanding. Think before you spout off.

Last time I checked, these drugs aren't required to live, and pharmacies and/or pharmacists can and do have the right to not fill any prescription they deem not necessary, or prescriptions not in the best interest of the patient. They are not required to transfer anything to anyone. My advice would be to not deal with this pharmacy, or those like it if it affects your sensibilities. Why didn't the woman in question just call the doctor, and have the doctor write out another prescription, and send it to the pharmacy of her choice? She would have had less stress, and likely spent les time to get her prescription filled.

That being said, I think that it's bad for business, but that's the choice the pharmacy made when they hired their pharmacist. I hope that the pharmacists boss knew he was like this when he hired him, otherwise, it's likely time to find another job.

He had told the managing pharmacist that he would not fill contraceptive prescriptions because they violated his religious beliefs.

Well if his Religious beliefs prevented him from fullfiling his duties of the job he should look for another occupation.

 

[tallest1]

Originally posted by: maluckey
Lack of tolerance, and instant labeling of others, shows immaturity and lack of understanding. Think before you spout off.

Last time I checked, these drugs aren't required to live, and pharmacies and/or pharmacists can and do have the right to not fill any prescription they deem not necessary,

Well, of course, many drugs aren't required to live but it doesn't mean that we can refused to hand them out at will.

or prescriptions not in the best interest of the patient. They are not required to transfer anything to anyone.

On grounds of physical wellbeing, not moral well being.

My advice would be to not deal with this pharmacy, or those like it if it affects your sensibilities. Why didn't the woman in question just call the doctor, and have the doctor write out another prescription, and send it to the pharmacy of her choice? She would have had less stress, and likely spent les time to get her prescription filled.

If you had read the article, it was a weekend and that she had gone to another pharmacist. In addition, doctors don't give out 2nd prescriptions easily (or else Rush Limbaugh would be high in the sky right now) and appointments can take 1 or 2 weeks.

That being said, I think that it's bad for business, but that's the choice the pharmacy made when they hired their pharmacist. I hope that the pharmacists boss knew he was like this when he hired him, otherwise, it's likely time to find another job.

No one is going to say "I'm a religious nut" in an interview. =/

 

[sMiLeYz]

Your religious beliefs belong in your church and your own damn home, you dont impose your morals onto others.

 

[InfectedMushroom]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Your religious beliefs belong in your church and your own damn home, you dont impose your morals onto others.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn


Well if his Religious beliefs prevented him from fullfiling his duties of the job he should look for another occupation.

Why? the place knew beforehand that this was the condition under which he would be hired and they agreed to it....if the place of employment is willing to accept it and they are a PRIVATE company then I fail to see what the problem is....like someone else said, providing or not providing contraception is not a life threatening matter, she was more than able to go somewhere else or just hold off a day from banging and get it from the manager.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Your religious beliefs belong in your church and your own damn home, you dont impose your morals onto others.

It is a free country and he can do whatever he wants, especially in this case as management was cool with it.

 

[InfectedMushroom]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Your religious beliefs belong in your church and your own damn home, you dont impose your morals onto others.

It is a free country and he can do whatever he wants, especially in this case as management was cool with it.

of course, but which part of "don't impose your morals onto others" is hard to understand?

 

[Pliablemoose]

From the story:

pharmacists can legally refuse to dispense contraceptives as long as they transfer the prescriptions to another pharmacy if the patient asks.

The woman returned to the Kmart with two police officers, but Noesen still refused

The licensed pharmacist was obligated to transfer the prescription, doing so violates his licensure & put the store @ risk for a massive lawsuit, which I'm sure will follow...

 

[dahunan]

Maybe the Catholic Priests molested boys because they wouldn't have to use birth control

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Your religious beliefs belong in your church and your own damn home, you dont impose your morals onto those who have none.

fixed

bigot

 

[sMiLeYz]

What is with nutjobs and twisting things I say? Uh... I meant "nutxos"

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Your religious beliefs belong in your church and your own damn home, you dont impose your morals onto those who have none.

fixed

bigot

child molester..

KK

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Your religious beliefs belong in your church and your own damn home, you dont impose your morals onto those who have none.

fixed

bigot

homophobe?

bigoted against people who don't believe what you believe?

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Your religious beliefs belong in your church and your own damn home, you dont impose your morals onto others.

It is a free country and he can do whatever he wants, especially in this case as management was cool with it.

of course, but which part of "don't impose your morals onto others" is hard to understand?

and he wasn't. she could have easily called her doctor for another script and gone somewhere else on monday or waited for management to come in and dose it out....like I said, management was fully aware of the situation beforehand.....if anything her trying to force him to dole out a script that he did not agree with is exactly what you are talking about especially since he told his employer that it was a condition of his employment.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Your religious beliefs belong in your church and your own damn home, you dont impose your morals onto those who have none.

fixed

bigot

homophobe?

bigoted against people who don't believe what you believe?

wrong answer pal, I believe in live and let live and if someone has a moral objection to doing somethign then more power to em. Someone wants to take it up the a** it aint my problem. Unlike the nazis on this board that trash religion I practice tolerance.

I simply stated a fact. SOmeone that puts someone else down for religious conviction is a bigot. Look it up.

As for the person who called me a child molester The internet makes the weak very brave, go sniff your mothers panties or something.

 

[InfectedMushroom]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Your religious beliefs belong in your church and your own damn home, you dont impose your morals onto those who have none.

fixed

bigot

homophobe?

bigoted against people who don't believe what you believe?

wrong answer pal, I believe in live and let live and if someone has a moral objection to doing somethign then more power to em. Someone wants to take it up the a** it aint my problem. Unlike the nazis on this board that trash religion I practice tolerance.

I simply stated a fact. SOmeone that puts someone else down for religious conviction is a bigot. Look it up.

As for the person who called me a child molester The internet makes the weak very brave, go sniff your mothers panties or something.

nutxo i agree with you on the "live and let live" attitude.
however when someone's moral beliefs interfere with my way of living i get pissed. i don't think anyone should tell me what to buy or not to buy based on their moral beliefs, especially when i am doing nothing illegal.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: nutxo
Someone wants to take it up the a** it aint my problem.

Well if it's your ass, I guess it wouldn't be a problem for you, now would it. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

KK

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Originally posted by: bozack

He had told the managing pharmacist that he would not fill contraceptive prescriptions because they violated his religious beliefs.

If this is true then seems like he did a good job of CYA....

yep;

but if a guy won't do the job for any reason you should be free to fire him;

i don't think anyone should tell me what to buy or not to buy based on their moral beliefs, especially when i am doing nothing illegal.

so your fear and disagreement is with his freedom of speech?

 

[Crimson]

Wow.. its amazing how the libs will force their morals onto people when it suits their needs, and choose to scream yell and cry about it when it doesn't.

Isn't allowing gay marriage forcing your morals onto me?
Isn't allowing abortion forcing your morals onto me?
Isn't trying to ban SUV's forcing your morals onto me?

"Forcing your morals onto me" is a poor argument.. since we do it all the time as a society. As others have said, he is perfectly within his rights to refuse service to anyone.. just as an electrician could refuse someone service because they don't want to do a specific job, or a surgeon could refuse to do a surgury they objected to.

The bigotry here is amazing. Any time a person has religious beliefs which conflict with your liberal views, you label them as extremists. Yet, if an environmental group illegally stops a privately owned ship and boards it in protest, they are hailed as heros to the cause. Hang the guy who holds to his religious beliefs legally, but make a hero the person who acts illegally in support of environmental "beliefs".

A little clue here guys, just because someone disagrees with your views does not make them a wacko. You labeling them as such points out YOUR intolerance... you expect other people to be tolerant of your views, but you refuse to be tolarent of theirs. Why is that? Because you are hypocrits..

 

[preCRT]

This guy was a freaking nutjob, and has no business imposing his personal moral beliefs on others. His refusal to provide her birth control pills actually INCREASED her chances of becoming pregnant and the possibility of future abortion.

http://www.madison.com/captimes/news/stories/70306.php

The conflict in Menomonie started on July 6, 2002, when a University of Wisconsin-Stout student walked into a K-mart pharmacy, where independent contractor Neil Noesen was working as a "relief" pharmacist for the weekend.

"A young woman went into the pharmacy and asked him to refill her prescription for birth control pills," said Chris Klein, executive assistant in the state Department of Regulation and Licensing, which investigated the matter.

He asked, 'What you are taking them for?' She said for contraceptive purposes. So he wouldn't fill it. He apparently was willing to provide it if it was for regulating her period."

Noesen had previously arranged with the managing pharmacist that because of his personal religious beliefs, he would not fill orders for contraceptives that would cause what he believed to be an abortion. The managing pharmacist agreed to fill such prescriptions later.

But Noesen was the only pharmacist on duty on that Saturday, and the woman needed a refill that day, when she had taken her last pill for the monthly cycle.

He did not tell her that she had a right to transfer the prescription to another pharmacy. And when she went to a Wal-Mart pharmacist who asked Noesen to transfer her prescription, he refused, according to a state complaint and a written response by Noesen.

The woman called the store the next day. The managing pharmacist was still not available but told the assistant store manager by phone that if Noesen would not fill the prescription, he should transfer it.

Noesen still refused to do either.

The young woman went to the police station and two officers accompanied her to the K-Mart to try to resolve the matter. Noesen continued to decline to refill the prescription or transfer it.

The prescription was refilled on Monday by the managing pharmacist, but the state complaint says that "because Patient A was prevented from taking the first tablet until the second day of the cycle, the effectiveness of the oral contraceptive was decreased slightly, making the risk of pregnancy a little greater.