Another Homerun for Palin!

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
That Bush doctrine question would have thrown me too. I'm not sure that is an official term with a hard and narrow definition.

Were you alive in 2003/2004?

The term is pretty official, among people who know foreign policy domestically and abroad.

I was here. I just had not known the term was limited to the way Gibson defined it. Preemptive strikes, reshaping of the M.E., democracy at gunpoint, with us or against us, I thought the Bush doctrine covered a lot of things.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: OrByte
The "Bush Doctrine" represents a fundamental approach to foreign policy when engaging threats to America and its interests.

It is something that will be taught in history books all over the country, for pretty much EVER on forward.

How can she not know what he meant when he said "Bush Doctrine" ??

The Bush doctrine is one of the pillars of his reign as President. He changed American foreign policy by engaging in war "preemptively"

sheesh.

and reading more;

She doesnt outright come out and say it, but she seems to think it is OK to wage war with Afhganistan through Pakistan without Pakistani cooperation.

The other day on Oreilly I specifically remember Obama saying that we have to bend Pakistani's will to suit our needs when fighting a war in Afghanistan. IE make them cooperate.

So, is she saying she isn't respecting the Pakistan government?

I wish I knew more of these issues

Both sides seem to take a similar approach to Pakistan. They talk tough, saying they don't need Pakistani cooperation to protect Americans, but aside from Bin Laden being in the cross hairs they know they need Pakistani permission. And Bush seems to have got it recently. The problem is us going into Pakistan against their will not only hurts Pakistan but it hurts us by increasing support for the militants there, who threaten to overtake a government that controls nukes.

 

[Fern]

The Bush Doctrine?

Who cares and how is that relevant?

She won't be in office with Bush nor any of his people. She needs to learn the McCain Doctrine, whatever the heck that might be.

Doesn't sound to me like Charlie knows what it is either. He fumbled when ahe asked what his OWN question meant.

PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?

GIBSON: The Bush -- well, what do you -- what do you interpret it to be?

Is this another new *Gate* now? The Bush-DoctineGate?

Fern

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
That Bush doctrine question would have thrown me too. I'm not sure that is an official term with a hard and narrow definition.

Yeah that question was probably a bit unfair. But alls fair in love and politics.

Unfair to ask a soccer mom, yes.

Unfair to ask a VP candidate? GTFO.

Maybe you missed my second line; I know it's tough to see from under your bridge.


I don't really care what she is asked as like I said above, all is fair when you're running for that kind of office. If anything negative came out of this interview, it's possible she exposed her flank with her weakness on foreign policy/affairs.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
That Bush doctrine question would have thrown me too. I'm not sure that is an official term with a hard and narrow definition.

Were you alive in 2003/2004?

The term is pretty official, among people who know foreign policy domestically and abroad.

I was here. I just had not known the term was limited to the way Gibson defined it. Preemptive strikes, reshaping of the M.E., democracy at gunpoint, with us or against us, I thought the Bush doctrine covered a lot of things.

It does, but it has a few pillars, pre-emptively striking our enemies being one of the main ones.

The Bush doctrine was a big topic of debate in our country during the first couple years of the Iraq war because it was so controversial.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Fern
The Bush Doctrine?

Who cares and how is that relevant?

She won't be in office with Bush nor any of his people. She needs to learn the McCain Doctrine, whatever the heck that might be.

Doesn't sound to me like Charlie knows what it is either. He fumbled when ahe asked what his OWN question meant.

PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?

GIBSON: The Bush -- well, what do you -- what do you interpret it to be?

Is this another new *Gate* now? The Bush-DoctineGate?

Fern

lol gibson must be proud of this "gotcha"

 

[soonerproud]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
It does, but it has a few pillars, pre-emptively striking our enemies being one of the main ones.

The Bush doctrine was a big topic of debate in our country during the first couple years of the Iraq war because it was so controversial.

Absolutely correct in this regard. However, even Bush has dropped the Bush Doctrine during his second term so it pretty much makes it irrelevant at this time. Now, if McCain decides to reinforce this doctrine, then all bets are off.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Fern
She needs to learn the McCain Doctrine, whatever the heck that might be.

It's a safe bet it will be more of the same.

Doesn't sound to me like Charlie knows what it is either. He fumbled when ahe asked what his OWN question meant.

PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?

GIBSON: The Bush -- well, what do you -- what do you interpret it to be?

Actually he 'fumbled' because he saw a glaring opportunity to put a hole in her armor. She asked him "in what respect", which is a standard response when you don't know what the fuck the question means. Charlie was about to give up the definition, but caught himself mid-sentence and let her flail around under her own ignorance.

 

[deftron]

Here's a long part of the interview

(not from the clips)

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: Fern
The Bush Doctrine?

Who cares and how is that relevant?

She won't be in office with Bush nor any of his people. She needs to learn the McCain Doctrine, whatever the heck that might be.

Doesn't sound to me like Charlie knows what it is either. He fumbled when ahe asked what his OWN question meant.

PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?

GIBSON: The Bush -- well, what do you -- what do you interpret it to be?

Is this another new *Gate* now? The Bush-DoctineGate?

Fern

hehehe I bet you he fumbled because he was ABOUT to tell her what the Bush Doctrine is and caught himself. Then asked her to "interpret it" Knowing that this is a quiz, after all, for Palin.

 

[theeedude]

Wow, she is defensive. Can you imagine that woman as the leader of the free world?

 

[Gunslinger08]

This is the first time I've ever heard the term "Bush Doctrine." Just because she doesn't know some proprietary term doesn't mean she's ignorant to how Bush handled foreign policy. She just didn't know that term for it.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Fern
The Bush Doctrine?

Who cares and how is that relevant?

She won't be in office with Bush nor any of his people. She needs to learn the McCain Doctrine, whatever the heck that might be.

Doesn't sound to me like Charlie knows what it is either. He fumbled when ahe asked what his OWN question meant.

PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?

GIBSON: The Bush -- well, what do you -- what do you interpret it to be?

Is this another new *Gate* now? The Bush-DoctineGate?

Fern

Are you honestly trying to tell people that you don't think it is important for someone running for vice president to know the simple definition of the dominant US foreign policy of the last eight years? Give me a fucking break, that's the stupidest thing I've heard all day.

Of course he knew what it is, you don't ask a question you don't know the answer to.

What happened to the old Fern?

 

[Zorba]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
This is the first time I've ever heard the term "Bush Doctrine." Just because she doesn't know some proprietary term doesn't mean she's ignorant to how Bush handled foreign policy. She just didn't know that term for it.

Over 800,000 hits on google. Wiki

It is a very very common term in politics

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

She isn't doing well on the foreign policy questions at all. Sounds very weak and inexperienced on the subject, which should be expected. McCain is infinitely better here.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

I wouldn't expect the average American to know what the Bush doctrine is.

I would expect someone who plans on running for the 2nd highest position of our nation to though. Especially if there is any chance that person could one day be the commander in chief should anything happen to John McCain. Her lack of knowledge on foreign affairs will be her downfall.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Wow, she is defensive. Can you imagine that woman as the leader of the free world?

:laugh:

This from a rabid Hillary supporter.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Another waste of time downloading a video with very little in common with the topic!!! Reading alot more out of the video then what's there?

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: senseamp
Wow, she is defensive. Can you imagine that woman as the leader of the free world?

:laugh:

This from a rabid Hillary supporter.

Clinton has more intellect in her pinky than Palin can muster on her best day.

 

[Stoneburner]

Holy crap she was crammed full of non-answers. This is bush territory!

1. Have a set of pre-conceived responses
2. Listen to the question
3. Pick a random number for a preconceived response
4. Give said response
5. Wait for interviewer to rephrase question
6. Enunciate the same response differently and stare blankly at the interviewer until they give up

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Stoneburner
Holy crap she was crammed full of non-answers. This is bush territory!

1. Have a set of pre-conceived responses
2. Listen to the question
3. Pick a random number for a preconceived response
4. Give said response
5. Wait for interviewer to rephrase question
6. Enunciate the same response differently and stare blankly at the interviewer until they give up

Pretty much the way Republicans govern. Completely out of touch with reality.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Stoneburner
Holy crap she was crammed full of non-answers. This is Obama territory!

fixed

 

[nageov3t]

Palin ROCKED IT OUT!

America, fuck yeah! :|

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

Rocked what? That was her weakest TV moment to date.

She's at her best on the campaign trail delivering the one-liners via teleprompters. She's actually damn good at that. Real interviews, not so much.

I know you're a partisan hack simply because you refuse to admit she was merely average in this interview.

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Rocked what? That was her weakest TV moment to date.

She's at her best on the campaign trail delivering the one-liners via teleprompters. She's actually damn good at that. Real interviews, not so much.

I know you're a partisan hack simply because you refuse to admit she was merely average in this interview.

Check the batteries in your sarcasto-meter. Loki is grudgingly pr-obama.