Another reason SCSI rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sundog]

I have finally converted over to EAC/Lame. So what has this have to do with SCSI you say?

Well for a long time I have been debating dropping the SCSI optical drives, because the IDEs have become much faster, reliable and cheaper. So I now have one IDE burner and still have SCSI CD-Rom, DVD and burner.

So I decided to rerip all the songs I wanted from around 250-300 CDs (after finding errors in quiet a few). I am a newbie to EAC but got it installed just fine. My Plextor 40XMax was only ripping at 10-11X. Oops, forgot to force the ASPI layer, after that the 40XMax was ripping the songs into .wav files at a constant 30X. I said hot damn.....I don't know what everyone is complaining about with EAC being slow.

/DOH.......wasn't ripping in secure mode. Switched over to secure mode (for the error checking) and it throttled the 40XMax back down because of the checking. I thought oh well, it'll be slow now.

**************This is where the SCSI comes in!!************ So next I thought, hmmm....my SCSI can handle multiple operations at once, and the pair of U160 73GB Atlas 10K III drives won't even come close to having a problem.

So right now as I type this I am using multiple sessions of EAC to rip 3 disks at once:
Plex 40XMax: Metallica - Master of Puppets
Pioneer 10X/40X DVD: Def Leppard - Pyromania
Plex 12x10x32s: NIN - Pretty Hate Machine


Man SCSI Rocks

 

[mastertech01]

 

[Mostyn]

Pair of 73GB Atlas 10K III's? .. u suk.

 

[Jgtdragon]

 

[Pariah]

You can do that with IDE too. Drop in 3 IDE Plextor CDRW's (who uses 3 optical drives in one system anymore?) and it will work just as well.

 

[RemyCanad]

I had 3 IDE drives on my system (I had a CD-ROM added a CD-RW and then added a DVD. I didn't want to take the time to take any out.) I was using CDEX and used all of them to rip CDs.

 

[LordAccord]

Yeah, I can rip 3 at once with IDE too, except that they are all broken files, misrips, or skippy files.... Never happens to me when I do it with scsi... same setup as sundog with the optical drives (the best isnt it?)...except im running IDE RAID HDDs.

LoRdAccord

 

[Sunner]

So, let me get this straight...

You defile Metallica and Def Lepard by ripping them the same time as NiN?

You don't deserve that SCSI setup, you really ough to give it someone with better taste, that is, me.

 

[Pariah]

"Yeah, I can rip 3 at once with IDE too, except that they are all broken files, misrips, or skippy files...."

It's the drives you use that matter, not the interface.

"Never happens to me when I do it with scsi..."

OK, let's look at StorageReview's review of the above mentioned Pioneer DVD-304S drive:

"You may recall in our review of the Pioneer DVD-115 that not only were measured extraction speeds higher than the specified 12X CLV (constant linear velocity), but there were potential quality issues as well. In our first review of a Pioneer drive, however, the DVD-303S did not stray from its 12X CLV-rated extraction rates. Unfortunately, the DVD-304S appears to take more after its older ATAPI brother than its SCSI sibling. Once again, despite impressive single-session extraction rates (extracting individual tracks kept the DAE at 12X CLV), we encountered dips in the extraction rate graph that corresponded to quality issues in the extracted files. Where the two dips in the graph appear, we found very faint pops and clicks. In fact, they were faint enough that we had to confirm with back-to-back comparisons with the original. We even recruited another set of ears to help determine just how noticeable the pops were. The verdict? Noticeable, but just barely, and not a big deal. However, those who take their audio extraction seriously may beg to differ."

One drive on SCSI, pops and inaccurate results.

Plextor's PX-W1610TA:

"The fast, clean CDSpeed 99 extraction rates are impressive. The Plextor sets records for a CD-RW: 18X minimum, 39X maximum, and 30X average DAE! Even when extracting from scratched CDs, maximum extraction rates are maintained. CDSpeed gives the drive a perfect 10 for extraction quality, and support for accurate streaming is detected. Informal tests with a 76-minute CD-DA show the Plextor reaching 42X at the outer edge of this oversized disc.

Results are similar with CDDAE99. Extraction rates average just under 28X with zero errors detected. With verification disabled, our 65:23 test disc extracts in about 2:20. Overall, the PX-W1610TA to offers the highest levels of DAE speed and accuracy of the burners we've tested."

Once again, it's the drive that matters, not the interface. Adding more drives will not effect the rips. If the drive reads it cleanly the data is unaltered through the interface bus.

This is pulled from the Pioneer DVD-305S review:

"Our DVD-305S evaluation sample shows extraction rates nearly identical to what we've seen in the DVD-115. Unfortunately, we also were able to duplicate the popping sound and correlate it with the dip in the graph....

It appears as if there may be either a firmware or spindle motor problem. The fact that similar problems were uncovered with two other Pioneer models eliminates the possibility of a damaged drive. If it's a firmware problem, perhaps the instructions to switch to CLV are not being sent to the motor when one sets up to extract an entire audio CD in a single session. If it's a motor problem, perhaps the motors have some defect that prevents them from gradually reducing rpm in conjunction with the pickup moving outward along the disc. Perhaps the issue lies somewhere in between or elsewhere entirely."

 

[RemyCanad]

Metalica and Def Lepard are good? You need to get some Frank Black.

The only time I had a problem was with a release of CDEX. The one I had would not work right when I opened three of them. After I downloaded the newest one it works great.

 

[Sundog]

Metalica and Def Lepard are good? You need to get some Frank Black.

Yep...and now I am doing Pink Floyd, Frank Zappa, Johnny Cash, some Jimmy, Alan Jackson and Enya

 

[Sunner]

Iron Maiden all the way!

 

[LordAccord]

Ill give you that, i havent always owned the greatest quality IDE drives.....

LoRdAccord

 

[Marty]

Word...

I can rip 3 cd's at once with my Plextor 40MAX, Plextor 12/4/32, and Pioneer 12X Slot loading DVD. HDD is a seagate cheetah x15