sdifox
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£15 a pop. So expensive ;(
I don't think they cost so much here. But then we have large south asian population.
£15 a pop. So expensive ;(
Ooh, interesting, I need to keep an eye out for that.
I'm weak. Vegetarian (16.5 years now) but not a vegan. Not sure I have the willpower to do it.
I don't ever plan on "quitting" veganism, but if I ever do it will because I've been kidnapped and reprogrammed by the dairy lobby.
I used to be vegetarian, and still eat less meat than average, but giving up dairy is a big FUCK NO! Cheese is my favorite class of food. Add in yogurt, butter, and ice cream, and I just as soon be dead as lose them.I don't blame you, and that's way longer than I've been a vegan. Frankly, it's harder to avoid cheese and milk products than it is to avoid meat. Milk and whey are in way more products than people realize. And cheese still smells so damn enticing, especially pizza... I resist, but aromatic fromage hits the receptors hard. I still make pizza (well, technically not pizza, but whatever) and other recipes that require cheesiness using nutritional yeast, cashew "cheese", and other substitutes (e.g. Daiya), but they aren't quite the same, though still can be delicious.
I don't ever plan on "quitting" veganism, but if I ever do it will because I've been kidnapped and reprogrammed by the dairy lobby.
For me it was a fairly immediate impact in energy level, weight loss, and... bowel health (all that fiber...I wish someone told me to introduce the higher fiber vegetables, legumes, and fruit into my diet slowly ). Longer term I found it helped with my asthma (never use an inhaler now, though regular excercise also helped with that) and with reducing frequency and intensity of migraines (though I also tend to avoid my trigger, anyway).
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
Okay, you made a decision to pay attention to your diet, started eating better and healthier and gained a benefit. Almost anyone would if they previously subsisted entirely on fast food, Hot Pockets and vending machine snacks. Why do you subscribe to the fallacy that it's eating vegan that got you some noticeable benefits rather than simply the fact that you're eating better? Take the average person that pays absolutely no attention to their diet and just make minor changes and they're probably going to feel better. Keep eating meat, just replace the afternoon snack of potato chips with an apple, have a salad instead of fried mozzarella sticks once a week, have a steak, a few fries and some cabbage and beans instead of a steak and a quadruple order of fries and most people would see the same boost in energy level, weight loss and bowel regularity that you're getting.
Vegan posts thread announcing they are vegan.
Shocking
Wife and i been doing vegan for about 2 months now for health reasons from same video mentioned earlier. But since were not doing it for animal reasons weve considered dropping down to vegetarian instead. Or say F it and screw health and the last 5 years and take up yummy meat again lol
Before you throw out logical fallacies, keep in mind I was paying attention to nutrition for years before I became a vegan, had already made simple substitutions (whole grain bread instead of white, a moderate amount of fruits and vegetables consumed, etc) but while still consuming meat and dairy. I already mentioned that balanced diets that include meat can be healthy, so I don't know why you immediately went to the defensive here... probably a good thing to be skeptical, but context matters.
Is it possible for a vegan to look forward to dinner?
https://www.vox.com/science-and-hea...what-the-health-documentary-review-vegan-dietTried it a week, terrible farts and left me ragey af also. Fuk dat vegan lyfe can't do it don't know how anyone does.
I think you really need to look up the definition of defensive. And you also might want to look up confirmation bias while you're at it. Simple dietary changes can lead to good results. Eating slightly healthier, eating slightly less, cutting out a small percentage of junk can make anyone feel better. VERY VERY VERY few people have any sort of physiological conditions that mandate vegan-ism or would lead to veganism being a reason for feeling better. There's no evidence to suggest or support the fallacy that vegan is healthier than a good balanced diet, none to support the idea that it leads to energy gains, none to support that it leads to weight loss and none to support that it leads to improved bowel function. You made a drastic change and your body changed, but you're ascribing the benefit to what you want to be true rather than other factors that could also be true.
If a circus performer stops eating glass as part of his act and starts eating more veggies at the same time it would be a fallacy to believe that it's the veggies that are responsible for his noticeably reduced rectal bleeding. You feeling better, or believing you feel better, after a major dietary change doesn't really prove that the dietary change was necessary or even responsible for the change.