Any skilled carpenters here?

EvilYoda

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Yeah, bendable plywood or MDF for the corner...and the angle cut on the bottom woofer will be tricky. If you can find someone with the tools in your area, he'll be able to do it no problem.

Is the woofer in its own chamber? That enclosure looks pretty big, should be fun. Makes me think of a droid/robot for some reason. (It's the feet)
 

Greenman

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The rounded front corners are going to be the tough part. The three options I see are too mill them from solid stock, very tough to do without some expensive machinery. The next best method would be to lay them up out of thin laminate over a cylinder of the correct size. The simplest approach for a garage shop would be to divide the curve into several segments and rip the angles on a table saw, then join the pieces and smooth the curve with a sander. You could get it all roughed out in a day with a decent table saw.
 

paperfist

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This would be more enjoyable to build:



That thing looks like one of those garbage pails with a foot actuated lid...

I don't see how you could pull that off in MDF unless you use a belt sander to make the radius's. As said, I'd go with 1/4 plywood, wet it and bend it. Good luck with the front bezel
 

Howard

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Is this thing a speaker with woofer ?
Yes.

I could do the radii with bending panels, or with quarter-rounds stuck into a right-angle vee built into the enclosure. The problem is how to mate the lower angled panel. It would be fairly easy if I had a huge compound radial saw, whereby I could put the whole speaker on the bed and slice across.

Or I could put the thing on a 5-axis CNC. Ha, that'll be cheap.
 

paperfist

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Yes.

I could do the radii with bending panels, or with quarter-rounds stuck into a right-angle vee built into the enclosure. The problem is how to mate the lower angled panel. It would be fairly easy if I had a huge compound radial saw, whereby I could put the whole speaker on the bed and slice across.

Why not go fiberglass?
 

Howard

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Yeah, bendable plywood or MDF for the corner...and the angle cut on the bottom woofer will be tricky. If you can find someone with the tools in your area, he'll be able to do it no problem.

Is the woofer in its own chamber? That enclosure looks pretty big, should be fun. Makes me think of a droid/robot for some reason. (It's the feet)
No. The woofer will utilize the air space of the entire enclosure. The tweeter and dome mid are self-enclosed, and the cone mid will have its own enclosure.

Would be much easier to build if I split the woofer from the other drivers, but I couldn't in my right mind give up the extra 3-4 cubes...
 

EvilYoda

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You'd be surprised with how little some local guys might charge for a CNC machine hour if you get some help with the plans. Most of them aren't running them all-day and that's just money they could be making.

That said...my next "DIY" will barely be that...all the new flat-packs coming out of AVS are too tempting. I'm not even sure if I'll keep on buying retail speakers at this rate.
 

dawp

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Never worked with it before.

I wouldn't use fiberglass for speakers anyways, it might get a little buzzy.


that would look good with a veneer, say walnut or mahogany.
 
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Howard

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You'd be surprised with how little some local guys might charge for a CNC machine hour if you get some help with the plans. Most of them aren't running them all-day and that's just money they could be making.

That said...my next "DIY" will barely be that...all the new flat-packs coming out of AVS are too tempting. I'm not even sure if I'll keep on buying retail speakers at this rate.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/199118-pentaview-results-my-latest-inspiration.html
 

skyking

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you can lay that out and hand-cut it, and sand to fit. No need for a CNC at all. make the box with radii square and lay out the cross cut, cut it, and use the resulting face to trace a template on cardboard. Cut that and fasten it on, and trim to match the vertical surfaces. Veneer to finish.
 

paperfist

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Would love to see how the base turns out, that look pretty complex to pull off.

What's the reasoning behind the angled woolfer at the bottom?

I'm not speaker builder, but I always thought the glue up was an issue. Something about it not holding up to the vibrations, might be worth looking into.
 

Howard

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Would love to see how the base turns out, that look pretty complex to pull off.

What's the reasoning behind the angled woolfer at the bottom?

I'm not speaker builder, but I always thought the glue up was an issue. Something about it not holding up to the vibrations, might be worth looking into.
http://www.trueaudio.com/st_spcs1.htm

To make a long story short:

Depending on the size of the baffle, a driver on that baffle will radiate sound power in 3 bands; one band is where the driver radiates sound power omnidirectionally, one band where the driver radiates sound power only into half-space (half of full-space/omni), and one band where there is a gradual transition from omni to half-space.

One of the design goals for this speaker was to ensure that power response was as constant as possible*, and as uniform half-space is easier to achieve than uniform full-space, all the drivers had to be radiating only into half-space (crossovers help with this). The baffle was then sized large enough such that the uppermost drivers would fire into half-space in their passbands, while the woofer below, as it already fires into half-space because of the nearby floor boundary, needed to go around the baffle to maintain the same power response. It isn't perfect, but much better than most designs.

The reason for the angle is because I can't fit the woofer on the front without making a mess of the large radii. If I could front-mount it and have it look good, I would do that. Conversely, down-firing the woofer might work, but there is an acoustic low-pass filter that is created when you do that, and as the woofer works up to ~200-250 Hz, I don't know how that would affect the woofer's passband.

*doing so tends to provide better imaging and soundstage
 

Howard

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you can lay that out and hand-cut it, and sand to fit. No need for a CNC at all. make the box with radii square and lay out the cross cut, cut it, and use the resulting face to trace a template on cardboard. Cut that and fasten it on, and trim to match the vertical surfaces. Veneer to finish.
That's very good advice.

Did I mention how bad I was with hand tools?
 

skyking

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I'd help you out, Howard, but there is a large chunk of continent in the way.......
 
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