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oboeguy

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Originally posted by: Megatomic
Wow, I was really surprised to find a large selection of triathlon training books at Barnes and Noble today. In particular I was pleased to have found that Triathlon 101 book.

Now I need to find a pool in my area to train in and I have to pick out a bike. Sounds like fun shopping.

How much do you expect to spend on a bike?
 

RBlount

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If you already have any kind of bike now, I would not worry about a new bike yet. I used a simple Mtn bike for two races my first year. I wasn't fast, but it worked. Make sure you like the sport before you invest in a bike (and it will be an investment.)
 

secretanchitman

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only water and the occasional sports drink (powerade/gatorade)...dont cheat and drink soda/pop.

and definitely work out. run a mile everyday to increase your lung capacity, do push ups and curl ups.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: confused1234
bikes can be VERY expensives. like 3,000+
True, but something like 80% of your total aero drag is how your body is positioned on a bike rather than the bike itself.

So, spend money on aero bars and then spend time getting your position dialed in before you start freaking because you can't afford a $2,000 pair of Zipp wheels. You don't have to spend a ton to go fast.
 

Megatomic

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You guys are reading my mind. I don't plan to spend more than a couple of hundred bucks on the bike. I don't have one right now so I HAVE to buy one, but I won't go high end until I get to the Olympic distance races. Same as the wetsuit. I might get a short length suit for when I go to VA or NY to race, but for the deep south I'll stick with traditional race swimsuits.

Hopefully I'll get off with less than $1K spent for my first race.

Working out is what I'm looking forward to. I've been working out like crazy for months now. Swimming and biking will be fun changes of pace for me, but the running is what I'm dreading the most. I've never been a good runner, even when I was in the service. Passable at best. One knee is trick already so I'll have to take it slow for the first month or more to make sure all my joints are ok. Sucks to be an old man.

Thanks for all the input guys. Any chance any of you guys are interested in competing? We could make an AT team, we'd just have to train on our own and meet up for the races.
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: Megatomic
You guys are reading my mind. I don't plan to spend more than a couple of hundred bucks on the bike. I don't have one right now so I HAVE to buy one, but I won't go high end until I get to the Olympic distance races. Same as the wetsuit. I might get a short length suit for when I go to VA or NY to race, but for the deep south I'll stick with traditional race swimsuits.

Hopefully I'll get off with less than $1K spent for my first race.

Working out is what I'm looking forward to. I've been working out like crazy for months now. Swimming and biking will be fun changes of pace for me, but the running is what I'm dreading the most. I've never been a good runner, even when I was in the service. Passable at best. One knee is trick already so I'll have to take it slow for the first month or more to make sure all my joints are ok. Sucks to be an old man.

Thanks for all the input guys. Any chance any of you guys are interested in competing? We could make an AT team, we'd just have to train on our own and meet up for the races.

Sounds like a nice idea, but I am a powerlifter now.
 

Megatomic

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I was into powerlifting when I was in the Navy, but I had to give it up when I messed up my wrists. Being a nuke student I didn't have a lot of time to train, but I was doing pretty good. To this day I retain some of the shape I had as a power lifter.
 

marmasatt

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Jeff,

Rblount has a pretty informative post above. However, I'll give you my 2 cents should they differ. Had about 5 seasons of glory days in the late 90's early 2000's. Was just a middle of the packer but placed a few times now and again. Got up to almost a half iron, basically a high olympic.

1) The leg that tends to separate the "men from the boys" is the swimming. Because anyone can run and bike. But swimming has just so much technique and form. It's not all just wind and strength. Also has a way of putting you severely behind from the get go. You need to swim a) open water and b) see if you can swim w/ friends or at least be prepared for what lies ahead. No one will be able to prepare you for the chaos that ensues in the beginning of the race during the swimming leg. You WILL get kicked, elbowed, pushed under, etc. Just stay focused and try to get in the zone early. If you find yourself intimidated or out of breath, it's probably not your preparation, it's probably the 100 or so people swimming around you . It's really hard to explain. It certainly takes a little while to get used to. The stronger the swimmer you are (and more winded), the better off you will be. But if you have to do some breast strokes or side strokes to catch your breath or get back the lay of the land, do it. Nothing to be ashamed of. If you aren't confident in your abilities, make sure you line up in the back of the heat. Because again, you WILL get pushed straight under. The "mad dogs" will be going after it. Remember, on your first race - that's not you.

2) BRICKS are highly valuable. Like already mentioned, you need to get your body used to running right after cycling, period. It's just not natural. Your legs will feel like cement. The more you practice this, the less like cement they will feel as you will become more adept at removing the lactic acid and what not. And will be more able to bare down and get into your stroke.

3) Get into a training regimine/schedule if you haven't already. Like solid, unmatched planned workouts. They have coaches for this type of stuff too of you feel this is necessary. You have to train smart. If you're not giving yourself enough rest, or training the right techniques, it doesn't matter how much you train.

4) You haven't mentioned your ht/wt. Lose weight unless you're a skinny guy. You don't see too many fat/big boned triathletes. Think of it this way, the more you weigh, the more you carry around w/ you for a 1/2 m swim, 12 mi bike, 3 mi run....... You'll be doing yourself a favor to get fit and lose as much as possible.

5) Be prepared. Plan ahead. Prepare yourself mentally for the swim. Prepare your transition station w/ your sneakers/gear/sunglasses, etc. You don't want to have to look for stuff. Rememeber what ROW you're bike is in. Nothing worse than spending 15 minutes just in the transition area because you forgot to leave one of your shoes in the transition area or forgot where you put your bike among 600 others... Looks at the entry and exit part of the station to get aclimated.

6) Have fun. It really is a blast. Think about it, your body is really the only thing you truly own. Figure out why you're doing this. Is it a test? Bored? Trying to prove you're not old?

LMK if you have more specifics. Again I was just a middle of the packer, but I sure had fun for awhile there.

Oliver
 

Megatomic

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Originally posted by: marmasatt

Jeff,

Rblount has a pretty informative post above. However, I'll give you my 2 cents should they differ. Had about 5 seasons of glory days in the late 90's early 2000's. Was just a middle of the packer but placed a few times now and again. Got up to almost a half iron, basically a high olympic.

1) The leg that tends to separate the "men from the boys" is the swimming. Because anyone can run and bike. But swimming has just so much technique and form. It's not all just wind and strength. Also has a way of putting you severely behind from the get go. You need to swim a) open water and b) see if you can swim w/ friends or at least be prepared for what lies ahead. No one will be able to prepare you for the chaos that ensues in the beginning of the race during the swimming leg. You WILL get kicked, elbowed, pushed under, etc. Just stay focused and try to get in the zone early. If you find yourself intimidated or out of breath, it's probably not your preparation, it's probably the 100 or so people swimming around you . It's really hard to explain. It certainly takes a little while to get used to. The stronger the swimmer you are (and more winded), the better off you will be. But if you have to do some breast strokes or side strokes to catch your breath or get back the lay of the land, do it. Nothing to be ashamed of. If you aren't confident in your abilities, make sure you line up in the back of the heat. Because again, you WILL get pushed straight under. The "mad dogs" will be going after it. Remember, on your first race - that's not you.

2) BRICKS are highly valuable. Like already mentioned, you need to get your body used to running right after cycling, period. It's just not natural. Your legs will feel like cement. The more you practice this, the less like cement they will feel as you will become more adept at removing the lactic acid and what not. And will be more able to bare down and get into your stroke.

3) Get into a training regimine/schedule if you haven't already. Like solid, unmatched planned workouts. They have coaches for this type of stuff too of you feel this is necessary. You have to train smart. If you're not giving yourself enough rest, or training the right techniques, it doesn't matter how much you train.

4) You haven't mentioned your ht/wt. Lose weight unless you're a skinny guy. You don't see too many fat/big boned triathletes. Think of it this way, the more you weigh, the more you carry around w/ you for a 1/2 m swim, 12 mi bike, 3 mi run....... You'll be doing yourself a favor to get fit and lose as much as possible.

5) Be prepared. Plan ahead. Prepare yourself mentally for the swim. Prepare your transition station w/ your sneakers/gear/sunglasses, etc. You don't want to have to look for stuff. Rememeber what ROW you're bike is in. Nothing worse than spending 15 minutes just in the transition area because you forgot to leave one of your shoes in the transition area or forgot where you put your bike among 600 others... Looks at the entry and exit part of the station to get aclimated.

6) Have fun. It really is a blast. Think about it, your body is really the only thing you truly own. Figure out why you're doing this. Is it a test? Bored? Trying to prove you're not old?

LMK if you have more specifics. Again I was just a middle of the packer, but I sure had fun for awhile there.

Oliver
Holy crap Oliver, that's alot of info. Thanks for all of it. I'll answer the questions you asked, the ones I can that is.

1. I have started training, but it's very rudimentary stuff. I'm working on a running program to get me up to running a 5K race for now. I'll move up to 10K later on. And I'm unable to swim and bike right now (no bike yet, need to find a pool), but I'll be getting on those bases soon enough.

2. I knew that weight would be an issue, but I'm working on that now and have been for over a year. I'm 6ft even and weigh in at 186 pounds as of this morning. I am very stout in both my muscalature and skeletally. There's nothing I can do about that, it's genetic. How much of a hindrance is this going to be for me? I don't intend to do this professionally and I never envision myself doing events longer than Olympic length so ultra endurance is not (hopefully) going to be an issue. Is there an average/recommended %BF that I should target?

3. I think I'm doing this for good reasons. First, I needed an activity that I would enjoy that would help me to maintain a good, healthy weight. Second, I need something competitive that will keep me motivated. Lastly, I want to push myself in a way that I never have before. I have participated in other sports, but to be able to be competitive in a triathlon would be a big milestone and a personal best.

I'm 36 years old man, and I spent most of my life being obese. I'm not obese anymore, I feel great, and I want to push myself physically. By doing triathlon I am getting myself into a culture of fitness oriented people who love to push themselves. I can't think of a better way to cultivate my newfound sense of physical and mental wellbeing.
 

JulesMaximus

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I'm preparing to do my first century ride next month. I just hope to finish it though...which shouldn't be a problem actually. I can do a 50-60 mile ride pretty easily and at a pretty good pace. I figure if I take it easy for the first 40 miles I should be good to go the distance.

I have no interest in doing a triathlon though. I can swim but running is too hard on my knees.

Why not start out with a mini-triathlon?
 

Megatomic

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That's exactly what I'm planning on actually. Sprint distance is very doable for a beginner who has done some training. I know I can complete the swim and the biking, but the running is worrying me. I have a bad knee also, I'm hoping that training properly right from the get go will help me avoid problems.
 

marmasatt

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Bikes CAN be expensive. I've seen some $ 5,000 bikes before. I don't know what the next best thing is, but a few years ago, they had these titanium frames going for like 2-3K alone. Too bad, because I've got like a $1200 Tri bike sitting in my basement gathering dust for like the last 4 or 5 years. You could have used it for sure. Still haven't been able to make myself sell it.

Guys like Fausto are biking guys, the statement he makes is correct. Cool shoes, or a wicked cool, fancy schmancy, 4lb bike isn't going to mean jack if you don't put in the training, and you dont watch your form on the swim for instance, and your "positioning" on the bike.

If you are looking for a Tri bike, look for the 650 cc wheels. They accelerate a bit quicker and are also a little better accelerators on sprints and on hills. IIRC they are even less drag by being smaller in general and making you a bit lower to the ground or something.

But if you can't get your hands on a tri bike, the 3 ways to make anything an immediate Tri bike is to get fitted properly for positioning, get some Aero bars, and get clipless pedals. Nashbar and Performance cycle were a few good catalogs at the time I was racing. Not sure if that's still the case.

Sounds like you have a good attitude and are doing it for the right reasons. Looks like our specs are the same, 35, 5'11" and 186. Let me tell you, you're never gonna be a speed demon with that frame . But I'm sure that's not the motivating factor for you. Glad to hear you've got a healthy body and attitude. And *any* triathlon is an accomplishment. Saying a real Tri is a full Iron Man - 2.4, 112, 26 is just ridculous. Those people are in a whole different class of crazies.

I'll keep chiming in as I think of em'

Edit: here's one of the frames I was thinking of: Litespeed - Blade - $4,000 for just the frame
 

Megatomic

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You bring up a good point man. I will definitely be looking to buy a used bike before I go and buy a new one. If I buy used, I can get a higher quality bike for less than I can get a chumpy one. That's how I do computers most of the time, too.

Any chance of you competing again Oliver? Maybe we'll race one day.
 

oboeguy

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If you're really desperate for cash, you could find an old road bike on Craigslist for a few hundred bucks. You'll outgrow it very quickly, though, if you stick to doing tris.

FYI, I saw this bike in a local shop a couple of days ago. Yum!
 

Megatomic

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Whoah, that is a nice bike. That's for the future if I decide to do tri for an extended period of time.
 

marmasatt

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Yeah, Quintana Roo was *the* name for Tri bikes when I was racing. I've got a QR Superform. It's all steele baby . Not like those light wussy titanium an aluminum frames.....

Whoah, that is a nice bike. That's for the future if I decide to do tri for an extended period of time.

And yes, good idea. There's nothing better than when you're a middle of the packer passing someone on a $3,000 bike when you're on your Diamond Back mountain bike........ Well, maybe the mt bike part is an exageration, but not with a solid road bike and solid training........
 
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