Anyone else get a Catleap?

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jiffylube1024

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I just got my Catleap 2703 today. I'm thrilled with it! The screen looks fantastic; IPS rocks!

I upgraded last month from my trusty AMD 6870 to a 7850, just for a little extra 'oomph' in case I took the plunge with one of these monitors. I'm very happy I did - my screen is perfect with no dead pixels or anything.

The basic Catleap does not have a scaler so no... the multi-input (HDMI, VGA, DVI-D) catleaps can do it but for the higher price you might as well get the Nixeus Vue (USA Brand) that comes out on Aug 21, but the first shipments are sold out and are back ordered until Sept 14.

I'm not sure what you guys mean by not having a scalar; my Catleap 2703 (basic one with DVI and VGA) can run at 1080p, 720p, 1336x768, etc. no problem...
 

Paul98

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I just got my Catleap 2703 today. I'm thrilled with it! The screen looks fantastic; IPS rocks!

I upgraded last month from my trusty AMD 6870 to a 7850, just for a little extra 'oomph' in case I took the plunge with one of these monitors. I'm very happy I did - my screen is perfect with no dead pixels or anything.



I'm not sure what you guys mean by not having a scalar; my Catleap 2703 (basic one with DVI and VGA) can run at 1080p, 720p, 1336x768, etc. no problem...

The ones with more than just the DVI input have a scaler. Though I also know atleast the 2G model is able to run at 720p and 480p, though only those resolutions.
 

cmdrdredd

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I just got my Catleap 2703 today. I'm thrilled with it! The screen looks fantastic; IPS rocks!

I upgraded last month from my trusty AMD 6870 to a 7850, just for a little extra 'oomph' in case I took the plunge with one of these monitors. I'm very happy I did - my screen is perfect with no dead pixels or anything.



I'm not sure what you guys mean by not having a scalar; my Catleap 2703 (basic one with DVI and VGA) can run at 1080p, 720p, 1336x768, etc. no problem...

Your GPU is scaling the image to size. The screen is doing nothing. Some monitors would do 1:1 scaling and have black boarders around the image at lower resolutions. This would allow you to play older games without stretching it and causing text to lose sharpness.
 

jiffylube1024

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Your GPU is scaling the image to size. The screen is doing nothing. Some monitors would do 1:1 scaling and have black boarders around the image at lower resolutions. This would allow you to play older games without stretching it and causing text to lose sharpness.

Ah, so it's GPU scaling eh? Are you sure?

I thought 1:1 wasn't scaling at all, it's simply 1:1 pixel mapping. When people say that it doesn't do scaling, do they mean it doesn't do 1:1 pixel mapping, or that it doesn't do any scaling at all and that's all handled by the GPU?
 
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Hospitaller

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My crossover 27Q from ta_planet arrived a few days ago. Have had no serious issues so far. Occasionally if I've left it on for 24hrs, when I returned it was doing weird things -- the bottom half of the display was sliding horizontally back and forth, with some artifacts. Powering the monitor off and back on fixed it. This happened twice in three days of usage. As long as restarting it solves the problem, I'm happy.

Another thing to note, some games such as M2TW tried to do graphics card GPU scaling in the menu screens. It made the menu screens run really slow on my GTX 560 Ti. Disabling GPU scaling in nvidia control panel fixed this, it still is scaling somehow but it runs perfectly smooth in the menus.
 

mrpiggy

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I purchased my Shimian Q-lite model (just DVI input) for $235 + a seperate $40 shipping. This allowed me to get the <$250 purchase price Square Trade 3 year warantee for like $31. So the total price was around $309, but with an additional 3 year warrantee. I registered the product/receipt on Square Trade's warrantee page without issue.

As for my monitor, it came with zero dead pixels and the edge light bleed is so minimal it's irrelevant. The light bleed only makes a difference if I crank brightness to maximum, but the monitor is too bright to use at max anyway (hurts the eyes).

The included stand is OK, but I had an extra Neo Flex pivotable VESA mount stand. It's steadier than the stock, aloows vertical height adjustment, but is too short to actually be able pivot this monitor on it's side. Being so long, vertical orientation sucks anyway because you have to crank your neck up and down to see all the real estate. The Monoprice $15 telescoping, no pivot, clamp on VESA stand works good too (as in super sturdy/steady), but since it's a clamp-on-desk-edge, I would have had to use it on the side of my desk instead of the middle. I instead used it on my 25" Hannspree 1080P TV/monitor and put it to the side of the desk.

I use the Apple Cinema color profile and it looks great. The video card is a AMD 6970. I did have to increase font size a bit since I'm getting old and can't see as well as I used to. I did also purchase a couple of 10' Dual link DVI cables from Monoprice that is much better than the one it came with I got one standard, and one extra thick, super high quality one for like $13-14 each from Monoprice. "Don't" get the "extra thick" DVI cable from Monoprice as it is TOO DAMN thick! It won't bend for shit and puts a lot of stress on the DVI connector with the way the Shimean back frame is molded. The standard Monoprice one is plenty thick.

I have a friend with a true Apple 27" Cinema display, and while her's is built better, the actual screen shows no difference that you would actually notice in actual usage and in fact, not having a super reflective glass front is a bonus in my opinion. Plus the $700 difference in price of course!
 

joe_H

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I purchased my Shimian Q-lite model (just DVI input) for $235 + a seperate $40 shipping. This allowed me to get the <$250 purchase price Square Trade 3 year warantee for like $31. So the total price was around $309, but with an additional 3 year warrantee. I registered the product/receipt on Square Trade's warrantee page without issue.

As for my monitor, it came with zero dead pixels and the edge light bleed is so minimal it's irrelevant. The light bleed only makes a difference if I crank brightness to maximum, but the monitor is too bright to use at max anyway (hurts the eyes).

The included stand is OK, but I had an extra Neo Flex pivotable VESA mount stand. It's steadier than the stock, aloows vertical height adjustment, but is too short to actually be able pivot this monitor on it's side. Being so long, vertical orientation sucks anyway because you have to crank your neck up and down to see all the real estate. The Monoprice $15 telescoping, no pivot, clamp on VESA stand works good too (as in super sturdy/steady), but since it's a clamp-on-desk-edge, I would have had to use it on the side of my desk instead of the middle. I instead used it on my 25" Hannspree 1080P TV/monitor and put it to the side of the desk.

I use the Apple Cinema color profile and it looks great. The video card is a AMD 6970. I did have to increase font size a bit since I'm getting old and can't see as well as I used to. I did also purchase a couple of 10' Dual link DVI cables from Monoprice that is much better than the one it came with I got one standard, and one extra thick, super high quality one for like $13-14 each from Monoprice. "Don't" get the "extra thick" DVI cable from Monoprice as it is TOO DAMN thick! It won't bend for shit and puts a lot of stress on the DVI connector with the way the Shimean back frame is molded. The standard Monoprice one is plenty thick.

I have a friend with a true Apple 27" Cinema display, and while her's is built better, the actual screen shows no difference that you would actually notice in actual usage and in fact, not having a super reflective glass front is a bonus in my opinion. Plus the $700 difference in price of course!

Isn't the neoflex stand the same as the 3M stand? I have two Shimian lites mounted on the 3M stands, and I can pivot them just fine. You have to tilt the bottom of the monitor out towards you first, in order to clear the desk. Pivot to portrait, then tilt the bottom back in.
 

mrpiggy

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Isn't the neoflex stand the same as the 3M stand? I have two Shimian lites mounted on the 3M stands, and I can pivot them just fine. You have to tilt the bottom of the monitor out towards you first, in order to clear the desk. Pivot to portrait, then tilt the bottom back in.


I have the older model stand (solid black bottom that vs circle that spins) and it doesn't have the clearance of the newer one.
 

KingFatty

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So has anyone tried mixed-resolution eyefinity with one of these non-scalar monitors and perhaps 2x 1920x1080 monitors? Or maybe with two 1920x1200 monitors?

Ideally I'd like to verify that the catleap/shimian etc. monitors with single-input, no scalars, can still report themselves to eyefinity so that they will work with a 1200p or 1080p monitor to get 3x1080p resolution on all three monitors (or some other factor, where all three monitors show the same aspect ratio).

I question this because the catleaps don't have a scalar, so I'm wondering if eyefinity just gets confused or if it can actually work without needing to get 3 catleaps (e.g., using two existing smaller monitors like a 1200p and/or 1080p).
 

joe_H

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So has anyone tried mixed-resolution eyefinity with one of these non-scalar monitors and perhaps 2x 1920x1080 monitors? Or maybe with two 1920x1200 monitors?

Ideally I'd like to verify that the catleap/shimian etc. monitors with single-input, no scalars, can still report themselves to eyefinity so that they will work with a 1200p or 1080p monitor to get 3x1080p resolution on all three monitors (or some other factor, where all three monitors show the same aspect ratio).

I question this because the catleaps don't have a scalar, so I'm wondering if eyefinity just gets confused or if it can actually work without needing to get 3 catleaps (e.g., using two existing smaller monitors like a 1200p and/or 1080p).

I did a quick Eyefinity test with World of Warcraft using 2 Shimian Lites and a Westinghouse 1920x1200 monitor. Created a 5760x1080 setup without issues. Each monitor scaled down to 1920x1080.

I haven't tried it since, as running 2 Shimians off of one 7950 caused the idle temps to be in the low to mid 50s. I run the secondary Shimian off a 5450 now.
 

cmdrdredd

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Eithout a scaler, the drivers are smart enough to scale to your screen for you on the gpu.
 

Wellsoul2

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I just got a Yamakasi Catleap 2703 for $295 free xpress shipping (got it in 3 days)

This one has the glass in front....Dual DVI only out.

It's glossy but I didn't notice it in games...running at 60HZ.

So far my Radeon 6870 handles Mass Effect 3 with no slowdown at 1440.

Haven't found any bad pixels yet...without seriously looking..not noticeable ones.

The stand is adequate for me. I see bios ok at boot.

In size it's 1/2in vertical 2in Horizontal bigger than my old Viewsonic 24-1920x1200 panel.

The color and detail is amazing compared to an old LCD TN. Nice blacks. Better colors.
 

Strmtrper6

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I just got a Yamakasi Catleap 2703 for $295 free xpress shipping (got it in 3 days)

This one has the glass in front....Dual DVI only out.

It's glossy but I didn't notice it in games...running at 60HZ.

So far my Radeon 6870 handles Mass Effect 3 with no slowdown at 1440.

Haven't found any bad pixels yet...without seriously looking..not noticeable ones.

The stand is adequate for me. I see bios ok at boot.

In size it's 1/2in vertical 2in Horizontal bigger than my old Viewsonic 24-1920x1200 panel.

The color and detail is amazing compared to an old LCD TN. Nice blacks. Better colors.

Mind if I ask where?

Either I haven't been looking very well or the prices just jumped crazy high.

Even the person I bought from went from $290 to $430.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAP...070&ssPageName=STRK:MERFB:IID#ht_37075wt_1163
 

joe_H

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Mind if I ask where?

Either I haven't been looking very well or the prices just jumped crazy high.

Even the person I bought from went from $290 to $430.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?afepn=5335869999&campid=5335869999&PID=1225267&ViewItem=&rd=1&item=120911008070&ssPageName=STRK%3AMERFB%3AIID#ht_37075wt_1163

I've purchased 2 of these Shimians from Red-cap. The price is around $10-15 higher than when I bought mine, but neither have any dead pixels, and only one has a tiny bit of backlight bleed. Both came approximately 2-3 days after order. It's also much easier to attach an after-market stand to the Shimian compared to the Catleap.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/330718939374?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
 

blastingcap

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I've purchased 2 of these Shimians from Red-cap. The price is around $10-15 higher than when I bought mine, but neither have any dead pixels, and only one has a tiny bit of backlight bleed. Both came approximately 2-3 days after order. It's also much easier to attach an after-market stand to the Shimian compared to the Catleap.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/330718939374?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

I agree and my short-lived experiment with Korean monitors was with red-cap and the Shimian which is easily VESA-mountable without having to snap off plastic or anything. I went back to my 3x1080p array though, because it's actually bigger for my purposes (extended desktop), at 6.22 million pixels vs. 3.69 pixels. Maybe eventually I will get 3x Korean monitors but that would kill my framerate in Eyefinity lol.
 

KingFatty

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I agree and my short-lived experiment with Korean monitors was with red-cap and the Shimian which is easily VESA-mountable without having to snap off plastic or anything. I went back to my 3x1080p array though, because it's actually bigger for my purposes (extended desktop), at 6.22 million pixels vs. 3.69 pixels. Maybe eventually I will get 3x Korean monitors but that would kill my framerate in Eyefinity lol.

Did you ever try eyefinity by mixing the Shimian with 2x 1080p monitors to run eyefinity at the same triple 1080p resolution, just "zoomed in" with the big monitor in the middle?
 

jiffylube1024

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Wow the Catleaps have all jumped in price.

I got my 2703 for $295 from green-sum a week ago. Now it's $395!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110920266460?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

That jump in price just suddenly happened. I can look at the seller history and all of the sold screens were $299 or less. Now suddenly it's $100 more!

It looks like the cheapest one is the one Wellsoul2 linked above (today it's $330).
 

yours truly

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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned so apologises if it has:

http://www2.120hz.net/showthread.php?576-Do-Not-Buy-Nvidia-Cards

If you plan on purchasing a 1440p monitor and want it to operate at higher than 82hz, please DO NOT buy an Nvidia video card. Nvidia started off as the best card for overclocking and many of us (including myself) purchased the Kepler series of cards. The Kepler (GTX 6xx) series were the first cards capable of pixel clock operating beyond 400mhz, which would get you up to 135hz refresh rate on a 1440p monitor. The previous Nvidia cards would work up until 400mhz, or around a 102mhz refresh rate on a 1440p monitor. This is all while using an SLI setup was limited to 400mhz as well, whether you're using Kepler or not. So...let's just point form what I said:

Kepler Series Cards (Single Card): 120hz+ (537mhz+ pixel clock limit)
Kepler Series Cards (SLI): 102hz (400mhz pixel clock limit)
Older Nvidia Cards (Single or SLI): 102hz (400mhz pixel clock limit)

As of 2 months ago, we noticed Nvidia beta drivers were acting oddly, and restricting the pixel clock to 330mhz. Any attempt to set a custom resolution through the Nvidia Control Panel would just give an error saying it's not supported by your device. It wouldn't attempt to do it and fail. It just popped up with an error. And previously added custom resolutions that were visible, would not load. We created a thread on their forums, and brought attention to it. We received no responses, and subsequently their forums were hacked and have been offline for 2 months now. One of the responses we had received through one of Nvidia's channels was that the limitation was due to a security feature built into their beta drivers, and that it is not indicative of what will be going into the live drivers.

I wish that had been true. During that time we tried out 2 consumer beta, and 1 developer beta driver. All had the same limitation. And what finally sealed it...with the launch of the GTX 660ti card, the latest non-beta WHQL certified driver for the card, has a strict across the board limit of 330mhz pixel clock. If you remember from the launch of the GTX 690 and GTX 670, the drivers available at launch for those cards were released as the standard drivers for the entire Kepler range of cards within 1-2 weeks. So all Kepler cards will soon be hit with this 330mhz pixel clock limit. What does this mean for us now? Well...let's recap as I did earlier:

Kepler Series Cards (Single Card): 82-84hz (330mhz pixel clock limit)
Kepler Series Cards (SLI): 82-84hz (330mhz pixel clock limit)
Older Nvidia Cards (Single or SLI): 82-84hz (330mhz pixel clock limit)

What does this mean for you? Well, currently the best option is to purchase AMD video cards. There is a driver mod for AMD video cards that allows an unlocked pixel clock for both Single Card and Crossfire setups (though some have reported certain limitations with Crossfire still). You can follow ToastyX's thread by clicking here.

To make it more clear, this is where Nvidia and AMD stand at the moment (or rather, will in a few weeks):
Nvidia Cards: 82-84hz (330mhz pixel clock limit)
AMD Video Cards: 120hz (theoretically 600mhz+ pixel clock limit)

We are certainly upset that instead of moving forward, Nvidia has decided to remove functionality that was the main reason many of our current and future members purchased their cards. Stealing functionality, while legal from their end, is a terrible idea from a consumer standpoint and we strongly disagree with it. But all we can do is advise you of these changes and continue our attempts to contact Nvidia to see if they'd be willing to reverse this decision.
 

JujuFish

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It's now $330, a day after.

Got this last month for $280 ($300-$20 for shipping mistake/delay) thru BCC.
Now $370 a day later. I'm just about ready to buy one and now they've all hiked in price, what's up with that?
 
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