Anyone experienced RACISM first hand?

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Sp3nce

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<< Sp3nce and many of u guys, this thread is "Anyone experienced RACISM first hand?" i dont know if u can complain about racism twards you and then be racist twards the person who did it to u...cuz that makes u no better anyways >>




Lol, what goes around, comes around. I am just glad that in the whole scheme of things, I've got the upper hand.
 

yellowperil

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I grew up in a racially mixed low-income area, and while I experienced discrimination I think I was lucky enough not to feel the brunt of racism. I do not think being called a beloved patriot or a beloved patriot constitutes racism. Maybe it is discrimination from ignorant individuals, but racism in my mind is a broader, more institutionalized form of discrimination that doesn't stop at name-calling. It's being denied opportunities, being targeted as a high-risk suspect, or having to prove yourself against low expectations.
 

Sp3nce

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If one white kid, were to call another white kid a "nigg", or "beloved patriot", would you be offended? If so, why?
 

EbonyExperience

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As a black gay male, I have experienced racism and homophobia many times. It is sad to say that I have also experienced those bad "qualities" on this board to. There are a few racist and homophobes lurking here. It's too bad because their are many good members here too.


 

optimistic

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<< Since I moved here to Pittsburgh (from LA), I haven't felt really comfortable. I sometimes get stared at or get dirty looks from caucasians when I go to stores. My asian friends have had racial epithets yelled at them (from caucasians and afro-americans). I went to sign up for a Sam's club membership. As my friends and I walked in, the people working at the desk tried to look like they were doing something. So we figured we'd wait until they were finished or someone else could help us. After waiting five minutes, a group of caucasians walked in. Immediately, one employee asked them if she could help them. We were pissed. The woman probably realized how pissed off we were because she avoided eye contact. We had to find someone else to sign us up for memberships.
Just the other day, we went out to eat at a restaurant. When we entered the door, the hosttess gave us a dirty look. WTF? I was so happy to go home to LA for thanksgiving. I didn't get any stares/dirty looks from caucasians. I can't wait until christmas break.
>>


Wow, thats tough. I know exactly how you feel. That's why living in LA is so great, everyone is a lot more tolerant. I hope things start to pick up for you in Pittsburgh
 

shu6679

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Here's what I have gathered from years of dealing with racism among Asians.

1. Korean people are very, very proud , ie Korean Pride (KP).

2. As far as Asians go, and I mean the 3 major races: Koreans hate Japanese and Chinese, Chinese hate Korean
and Japanese, Japanese hate Korean and Chinese. So it all works out.

3. Japanese Restaurants: Usually good service regardless of your race. They have menus in English and they'll
describe dishes to you if you don't know what they are. Good dining experience every time.

4. Chinese Restaurants: Generally good service regardless of your race. If you are a Chinese person who
speaks Chinese, the service is better. Most English friendly menus out of the three types of restaurants.

5. Korean Restaurants: If you're not Korean, services are generally mediocre to subpar. If you're a Korean who
doesn't speak Korean, they look down on you. If you're Korean who grew up in US and speaks Americanized Korean,
they look down on you. Menus mostly in Korean, better go with a Korean person when you are craving for some
K-food. That's what I do.

6. It's not fun being a mixed Asian person. Neither side accepts you as one of them.
 

MeanMeosh

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bwahahaha, one time in high school (midst of east texas...), this one white kid kept making fun of me (i'm Indian and had just moved to the US in the 9th grade) and my accent. he was talking smack and was like "i bet you cant even fight" (i was 12 in 9th grade and really really short) and kept inviting me to fight him. one day, i went like "ok", and he was really startled. then he started mobing around making all these fancy judo-like moves. i just casually waited till he got near and punched him in the gut. he just kinda flopped over....

my other friends (whites and blacks) never let him live it down.... except for that one guy, noone else in east texas (old or young, white or black) was really racist towards me even though they have something of a rep... all the old people thought i was very respectful and kept telling their kids/grandkids to behave like me and get good grades and stuff and all the kids in my high school thought i was cool...


another funny story.... we went to this indian restaurant in london while on vacation... they were really really snooty towards indians and were really really nice towards the white people... oddly enough, they were all indians too..... we were all eating and he had brought some rice with teh dish i ordered. i then asked him for a different kind of fried rice (one that was like 5 pounds...) and the waiter just kinda snapped at me "you already have rice, you dont need any more rice." for the first five seconds, my family and i were kind of shocked and then when it set in we were squirming really really bad because it was hard as hell to contain our laughter. after that, each time the waiter came by, we kept talking under our breaths about "guess who's getting a really small tip"
 

The Dancing Peacock

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Being hispanic, but having a light complexion, I haven't really experienced much of this, especially b/c I live in LA. When I have experienced it, it's always been in Asian areas. It kind of gives me an idea of what some people do and have gone through on a daily basis, which is quite sad. A couple of examples:

When I was buying my cell phone from a store in Cerritos, I went to an ATM in a Chinese market. We ask the Lady where it is, she says it's over there, but its not working. My dad says, go try it anyway. Not only was he able to take out $100+ I was as well. The lady gave us dirty looks when we used it successfully, but when we asked her why she said that to us, she kind of mumbled an answer then ignored us :Q The guy I bought the phone with was condescending and mean, untill I had cash in my hand. He was very pleasant and reasonable with the 3 asian people he helped before me.

Getting dim sum at place in West LA. The asian girls pushing the dim sum carts would come by our table once, if at all, to offer us what they had. They woud give it quickly, without explaining the item or what was in it. Compare them to the hispanic men and women pushing the carts. They would spend equal time at everyone's tables, and were willing to tell us what the various types of dim sum were. The asian girls (there were only girls in this shop) were spending more time at the asian customers' tables.

1 dim sum, and 1 korean bbq place in Cerritos. At both, the asian help was curt, and short with us, but visibly nicer to the asian customers.

Contrast this to a couple of good Japanese sushi places in west LA, the attitude there, was always nice, and the chefs and help were very very nice, and treated all the customers well.

My 2 cents.

Now, those of you who live in LA and have gone to non-Asian ethnic restaurants, like Indian, Mexican, etc, what has been the response. If I go to a Mexican place, I will speak Spanish, so I don't know what the reaction is that way....
 

Croton

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lots of times. i'm chinese

when i was in middle school, a kid named Justin Parker was calling me racist names. he just made me feel crappy. so i got in a fight w/him on the bus.

busted!

then i found out his dad was LARRY H PARKER -- that annyoing ass lawyer guy. boy was i scared!

luckily i had witnesses on the bus that said that he provoked me. so i got away w/a detention, and he got a 2 day suspension.

hahahhaha
 

Antoneo

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<< Here's what I have gathered from years of dealing with racism among Asians.

1. Korean people are very, very proud , ie Korean Pride (KP).
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Even though I am Korean I dont dig into that stuff. If you're in America there is no real need to go "flaunting" your ethnicity. I see the Korean gangstars all the time every time I go to school and I get pissed off to see them thinking their the sh!t. A lot of them are racist against whites and blacks (reffering to them as ggumdang) I have to say but yet they dress fubu, mecca, sean john, etc hip hip brands. What the hell are they thinking? I swear the numbers of wannabe thugs are increasing by the day.
 

GoldenTiger

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I (a white) went into a Staples store to do a pricematch one time. The black manager comes up to the counter and tells me, "Excuse me, get out of my store. Why the heck are you back again?" I hadn't been there before, so I tell him he's mistaking me for someone else. He moves toward me and raises his arm, and tells me to get the hell out of his store, rudely calling me random trash-talk stuff and claiming his store flat-out doesn't do any pricematching, acting as though I was trying to scam him and make up the concept. Anyway, you can bet he got reported to Staples Corporate the next day...
 

Gunther

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I have lived in so cal all my life and I've had almost no exposure to racism. All my schools from k-now have been predominantly asian and almost all my friends are asian. Its actually kind of wierd the most racism I have recieved has been from my own race. I am a korean and can barely speak it, so I am looked down upon. The restaraunt thing is so true when I go to a korean restaraunt with my friends and when we don't have anyone who can speak korean we get BAD service it sucks. My parents want me to learn korean so that can take me to korean prob because they know that I am going to get into probs if I were to go there now.
 

Antoneo

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<< I am a korean and can barely speak it, so I am looked down upon. >>


Same here. Every time my relatives in Korea call I always have a funny conversation with them. I can understand what they are saying but its kinda hard for me to reply. When I give the phone to my parents, my relatives always remind them to "teach the kid how to speak korean". I always go to Korean resturaunts with someone who knows Korean as well hehe.
Funny thing is, I hear that English is a subject that is "taught" like crazy in Korea right now as well as many other eastern countries...
 

dighn

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<< He
2. As far as Asians go, and I mean the 3 major races: Koreans hate Japanese and Chinese, Chinese hate Korean
and Japanese, Japanese hate Korean and Chinese. So it all works out.
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That's not true Chinese people don't hate Koreans, but I don't know about the reverse heh. But we do have some negative feelings towards Japan because after all during WWII they invaded China and slaughtered millions.

Anyway I can't say I have experienced racism first hand because I live in a fairly diverse city... there're tons of asians everywhere...
 

Lucky

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"I was told in confidence that my scholarship in college would have covered room and board but I was the wrong skin color. "


Sorry to hear that tex. That really sucks and is terrible policy. I commend "special" scholarships for minority students-as long as they are kept seperate from general scholarships. If a scholarship is initially open to students of all color, then gives extra benefits to minorities is crap. I dont have a problem with blacks, asians, etc. having EXTRA, and seperate, scholarships...thats a totally seperate, and like i say, commendable matter.


edit-I want to clarify that I was commending private scholarships, not gov't funded ones.
 

sinunbeso

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I was an exchange student a couple of years ago in a bay area high school. The HS is in the second richest neighborhood in the country I believe. 90 percent of the kids who went to the HS were white. Well I wasn't thrown at or called a chino at all but nobody would talk to me no matter how nice I try to be to them. People would immediately walk away after they heard my accent. They would give me mean looks. One time my English teacher was taking casual photos of us in class. One white boy wouldn't take a picture with me.
Anyways I am living in Toronto now. It's much better here. There aren't as much the money and goodies as there are in U.S. But at least people tend to understand each other. I've met some really nice Americans but this experience I had in U.S really hurt me to a degree.
 

Maetryx

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<< I hardly experience it because I'm in a big city and I look white to most people, but the times I have have really shown me how hard hit must have been or must be for those that experience racism constantly >>



Three assumption are built into that initial post (and, yes, I've read the entire thread because I wondered if anyone would address this):
1) white people hardly experience racism directed at them
2) urban areas have less racism that rural areas
3) non-white people experience racism constantly
which I'm sure is supposed to make the reader conclude
4) white people, especially rural ones, are racist toward non-whites.

This is a great example of outdated racial assumptions Anyway, I was pleased that the vast majority of anecdotal responses bucked the assumptions built into the initial post.
 

Lucky

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This is a great example of outdated racial assumptions


Oudated-yes-but still very much the case in the south, if not many other areas. I say this as a white kid who, for a while, lived on my family's 40Ksq.ft ranch in New Mexico.
 
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