Anyone still watching the Sopranos?

[OutHouse]

i missed teh first 20 min last night. how did tony kill chris, and what happend to Paulies mother why was she dead?

paulie seems pretty unstable, hardly anybody at his moms wake and he takes that stuff pretty personal.

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: SoulAssassin

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: SoulAssassin

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: purbeast0
So far Season 6 is a huge letdown, both the first half and the half that is airing now.

I don't see it that way at all - it seems to me that most of the complaints about it relate to people wanting it to be an action movie. There has been some great writing this season. I can empathize with the idea of wanting more momentous events, given that this is the final season, but I do think it's been pretty good.

My problem is that nothing is happening. When you look at what has changed since the beginning of the episode to the end, it's really not that much. We spent/wasted maybe 20 minutes watching Junior get his hustle on at the funny farm to what end? A broken arm? What does that do to advance the overall story? Maybe it will be relevant in a future episode, probably not though.

My whole problem with David Chase started several years ago when I watch an interview w him where he said he wanted the Sopranos episodes to be completely self contained with no plot lines really carrying over from episode to episode. IMHO, that sucks. I want the huge arching story lines of shows like The Wire where just about everything impacts something episodes or sometimes seasons down the road.

If you like story lines like the Wire, then why not just watch the Wire?

As soon as it comes back for it's final season, which will be exponentially better than this, I certainly will. I highly recommend it if you haven't watch it, if it's On Demand now start from the beginning.

The Wire is one of the few HBO shows that I can't/don't watch. I can never get into it. To me, the acting always seemed to turn me away for some reason. I can't seem to latch onto the characters like I can with the Sopranos, Deadwood, Six Feet Under, and even Carnivale (and that is a stretch ).

I'll give it another shot this season.

I like it when the constant viewer is rewarded by catching the little things someone who watches it occasionally wouldn't notice. Writing each episode as a standalone is more like a sitcom with guns.

To me, the Sopranos is a bit like Six Feet Under. There is some resolution to issues in some episodes, but mostly it's about the characters, and every episode is a resolution to their character and not some tangential event. You do get rewarded by catching the little things, but that's usually something about the character that manifests itself in a variety of ways. This could be Chris' drug problem, his siding with Tony during the Adrian situation, the fact that he felt almost plagued from the beginning due to the crow at his "making", etc.

So, I think the story is more about the character interaction than the actual story itself. Not sure if that makes any sense.

It's mostly pointless dead ends about the characters that have little or no meaning. Some threads are drawn out 10x longer than they need (Vito), some are resolved in 2 seconds to get it out of the way (Johnny Sack).

I'm a broken record here, but the nuance is in the characters, not the storyline. Seinfeld might be a proper parallel to draw here; it's the interplay of characters that keep the show interesting, so for me you could literally have nothing at all happen in a Sopranos episode and I'd still enjoy it. I'm almost bored when they start to resolve issues in the story, because it's expected. The dynamicism of tangents being created without any expected resolution seem more natural to me than this string of points and counterpoints.

Maybe I have ADD

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: Citrix
i missed teh first 20 min last night. how did tony kill chris, and what happend to Paulies mother why was she dead?

Chris and Tony were in an accident with Chris driving, and Tony walked away. Chris was high at the time and he had drugs/pipes/whatever in the backseat (I think that's what we saw), so he said something to Tony like, "I'll never pass a drug test." He started coughing up blood, so Tony covered his nose and essentially forced Chris to asphyxiate on his own blood.

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: Citrix
i missed teh first 20 min last night. how did tony kill chris, and what happend to Paulies mother why was she dead?

Chris and Tony were in an accident with Chris driving, and Tony walked away. Chris was high at the time and he had drugs/pipes/whatever in the backseat (I think that's what we saw), so he said something to Tony like, "I'll never pass a drug test." He started coughing up blood, so Tony covered his nose and essentially forced Chris to asphyxiate on his own blood.

He was wheezing very bad, which tells me he had a major chest injury too. It didn't take much effort for Tony to kill him. Paulie's mother had a "stroke" while on a bus or something.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: KLin

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: Citrix
i missed teh first 20 min last night. how did tony kill chris, and what happend to Paulies mother why was she dead?

Chris and Tony were in an accident with Chris driving, and Tony walked away. Chris was high at the time and he had drugs/pipes/whatever in the backseat (I think that's what we saw), so he said something to Tony like, "I'll never pass a drug test." He started coughing up blood, so Tony covered his nose and essentially forced Chris to asphyxiate on his own blood.

He was wheezing very bad, which tells me he had a major chest injury too. It didn't take much effort for Tony to kill him. Paulie's mother had a "stroke" while on a bus or something.

ribs puncturing lungs? he had no seatbelt as well? or so tony said, i didn't notice if he was though.

tony getting to make out with another hot chick, that fat actor is a lucky bastard lol

Originally posted by: Chris
I realized this episode that I hate almost every character on the show and hope they all die in the last episode. I am not a hater. I have been watching the show from day one and have loved it.

At this point I find it hard to sympathize, relate, whatever with no good murdering scumbags. The principle characters have no redeeming values and do nothing but instill bad Italian-American stereotypes. Chris is a murdering scumbag, so is Tony, so is Paulie, Janice, Sil, etc. Suddenly, this show depresses me. I am not sure why all of the other seasons didn't, but now after I watch I get a knot in my stomach

well its suddenly being that way. its like they are setting them up to all die.

 

[SoulAssassin]

*spoiler alert...theory on future episodes*

Rumor is that AJ kills himself by putting weights on him and drowning in the pool, considering that it looks like it's the fall season and the pool is closed, take this one with a grain of salt. Also, supposedly Phil orders a hit on Tony and Meadow accidentally gets hit and dies (dumb imho) in one of the last episodes but not the last one...Tony dies in the last scene...shot by the NY guys somewhere in NY.

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
*spoiler alert...theory on future episodes*

Rumor is that AJ kills himself by putting weights on him and drowning in the pool, considering that it looks like it's the fall season and the pool is closed, take this one with a grain of salt. Also, supposedly Phil orders a hit on Tony and Meadow accidentally gets hit and dies (dumb imho) in one of the last episodes but not the last one...Tony dies in the last scene...shot by the NY guys somewhere in NY.

Heh, it looked like you were almost right about AJ there for a few minutes! I could see a suicide attempt coming, though... he's been acting like an emo for the past few episodes.

 

[SoulAssassin]

I wish AJ had killed himself...now we have to listen to him whine for a couple more episodes. The thing w Meadow might have been what happened in the cafe and she doesn't actually die but you never know.

This episode sucked as well except for the American History X stomping.

 

[dartworth]

I liked it...

 

[crt1530]

Holy crap. Curb stomping is freaking savage. The end is nigh and it's going to be violent.

 

[NGC_604]

I hope Rambo shows up in the finale and saws Phil's head off, I can't stand that ass.

 

[KLin]

lol at the tooth in the fold of his pant leg. :laugh:. It's definitely going to be an all out go to the mattresses war in the end. Tony is/has always been afraid of losing his family, and that's exactly what's going to happen IMO, whether it be they die or he dies.

 

[KLin]

Real Soprano Spoilers!

Don't read if you don't want to know what supposedly happens in the last 2 episodes!

 

[NGC_604]

Originally posted by: KLin
Real Soprano Spoilers!

Don't read if you don't want to know what happens in the last 2 episodes!

Holy Sh!t, thanks for that. I don't know what to make from that if it is real, but I sure as hell like it a lot more than the previous spoilers that were posted. Still, I'm not so sure that is real either. It seems a bit out there.

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: energydan

Originally posted by: KLin
Real Soprano Spoilers!

Don't read if you don't want to know what happens in the last 2 episodes!

Holy Sh!t, thanks for that. I don't know what to make from that if it is real, but I sure as hell like it a lot more than the previous spoilers that were posted. Still, I'm not so sure that is real either. It seems a bit out there.

Looking at it again, they were pretty off about the 3rd to last episode. I doubt any of it is accurate.

 

[NGC_604]

EDIT - apparently the last episode is on June 10th, 3 weeks from now, but there is no episode next week. So yeah, only 2 episodes left so that spoiler was BS. Still, the summary for the episode seems to make sense with what others have been saying is going to happen.

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: energydan

Originally posted by: KLin

Originally posted by: energydan

Originally posted by: KLin
Real Soprano Spoilers!

Don't read if you don't want to know what happens in the last 2 episodes!

Holy Sh!t, thanks for that. I don't know what to make from that if it is real, but I sure as hell like it a lot more than the previous spoilers that were posted. Still, I'm not so sure that is real either. It seems a bit out there.

Looking at it again, they were pretty off about the 3rd to last episode. I doubt any of it is accurate.

According to a google search there are still 3 episodes so it could be accurate. But I don't know, I'm trying to get clarification. The website I looked at said the last episode is on June 10th. Unless there is a week off that I'm unaware of..

EDIT - I've found multiple sources saying the last episode is June 10th.

No episode next weekend

Only 2 left.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Best line from this week's episode:

"Get the mop."

:laugh:

 

[SoulAssassin]

Originally posted by: KLin
Real Soprano Spoilers!

Don't read if you don't want to know what supposedly happens in the last 2 episodes!

David Chase said Paulie lives....I don't buy the thing w AJ and the NY crew but some of it might be true.

 

[KLin]

Blue Comet Summary from titantv.com:

Loyalty to Tony reaches a critical stage for those within his sphere of influence; a case of mistaken identity has grave consequences.

Spoiler thread posted on alt.tv.sopranos

 

[Yreka]

Originally posted by: KLin

Originally posted by: energydan

Originally posted by: KLin

Originally posted by: energydan

Originally posted by: KLin
Real Soprano Spoilers!

Don't read if you don't want to know what happens in the last 2 episodes!

Holy Sh!t, thanks for that. I don't know what to make from that if it is real, but I sure as hell like it a lot more than the previous spoilers that were posted. Still, I'm not so sure that is real either. It seems a bit out there.

Looking at it again, they were pretty off about the 3rd to last episode. I doubt any of it is accurate.

According to a google search there are still 3 episodes so it could be accurate. But I don't know, I'm trying to get clarification. The website I looked at said the last episode is on June 10th. Unless there is a week off that I'm unaware of..

EDIT - I've found multiple sources saying the last episode is June 10th.

No episode next weekend

Only 2 left.

Thats kinda depressing.. Im really enjoying this season.. "The Soprano's" and "The Shield" are about all I look forward to watching anymore.

( Except A's baseball of course )

 

[ultimatebob]

Holy crap... They got a whole mob war going on there!

 

[ramuman]

Finally a lot going on, but for all that happened this episode, I felt the vast majority of the current season was wasted getting to this point. They wasted many episodes, then in one Johnny Sacks gets and dies of cancer and in another there is a full blown NY vs. NJ war? Well at least I won't complain about this episode.

 

[Yossarian]

who was that Ukrainian they got? just some random guy?

 

[GRIFFIN1]

Originally posted by: Yossarian
who was that Ukrainian they got? just some random guy?

That was the father of the girl that was also killed at the same time. The girl was Phil Leotardo's girlfriend. The girls father looked like Leotardo, so that's why there was some confusion.