AP: Elisabeth Smart Found Alive

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HOWITIS

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if we have a news flash for every abduction case there would be no TV. only way money comes into this is the ability for the family to hold news confrences. but i also wonder how you knew of the girl in michigan if it isn't covered.


anyway, i actually was abducted as a child, alot younger than her. and it was years before i stopped being afraid of it happening again.
 

Grasshopper27

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Originally posted by: Beau
I know if I was her father, I wouldn't be able to control myself if I ever saw the kidnapper. It would take an army to keep me from beating his ass to sh!t.
That should be our new punishment, we should turn these scumbags over to the parents of the kids.

If this happened to me, there wouldn't be enough left to hold a funeral...

Oh well, I guess it's good enough to know that this guy's gonna spend the rest of his life in a federal "pound me in the ass" prison.
That is the second best choice... He will not enjoy prison, murders are more respected there...

: ) Hopper
 

Storm

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Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Hurting a kid is, to me, just about the worst thing a person can do. People who do that should be executed by the most painful manner possible and then they can rot in hell for eternity for all I care.
Amen...

I've been listening to Elizabeth's aunt talking on MSNBC and I've been crying... It is just so heartbreaking and heartwarming... I can't imagine the emotions that they are feeling today!

I'm so glad she was found alive. Now put that scumbag into prison with a bunch of murderers. They do NOT like child molsters...

Hopper

You are too eager to jump to the conclusions. We do not know what else if anything he did to the girl. We do not know if in Utah the deathpenalty is a form of punishment for kidnapping.

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: HOWITIS
if we have a news flash for every abduction case there would be no TV. only way money comes into this is the ability for the family to hold news confrences. but i also wonder how you knew of the girl in michigan if it isn't covered.


anyway, i actually was abducted as a child, alot younger than her. and it was years before i stopped being afraid of it happening again.
Did Religious Fanatics Kidnap you too?


 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: HOWITIS
if we have a news flash for every abduction case there would be no TV. only way money comes into this is the ability for the family to hold news confrences. but i also wonder how you knew of the girl in michigan if it isn't covered.


anyway, i actually was abducted as a child, alot younger than her. and it was years before i stopped being afraid of it happening again.


If I may ask, what were the circumstances of your abduction?
 

Sepen

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From what they are saying, sounds like she was with them willingly. In trench coats and duffles bags? 3 of them, like vagrants. WTF?
 

Grasshopper27

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Originally posted by: Storm
You are too eager to jump to the conclusions. We do not know what else if anything he did to the girl. We do not know if in Utah the deathpenalty is a form of punishment for kidnapping.
He took a 14 year old girl against her will at gunpoint in the middle of the night and held her for 9 months.

Maybe we can borrow a metal press from an iron works and use it to crush him... :|

Grasshopper
 

Storm

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Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Originally posted by: Storm
You are too eager to jump to the conclusions. We do not know what else if anything he did to the girl. We do not know if in Utah the deathpenalty is a form of punishment for kidnapping.
He took a 14 year old girl against her will at gunpoint in the middle of the night and held her for 9 months.

Maybe we can borrow a metal press from an iron works and use it to crush him... :|

Grasshopper

Dood you are getting too emotional, I don't want to even imagine how emotional you got on your other account while you were posting about 9/11.
 

HOWITIS

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If I may ask, what were the circumstances of your abduction?


lets just say a mentally ill family member came into my house (which was unlocked, now i still have a phobia of locked doors), took me to one of their friends house for about two days. i refused to eat or drink anything, which i later found out is common for traumatised children. just to hammer home the point of how far gone this family member was, there were plans to go back the next day and get my brother before we all took off to another state.





i was about 5 and remember all of this vividly
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: HOWITIS
If I may ask, what were the circumstances of your abduction?


lets just say a mentally ill family member came into my house (which was unlocked, now i still have a phobia of locked doors), took me to one of their friends house for about two days. i refused to eat or drink anything, which i later found out is common for traumatised children. just to hammer home the point of how far gone this family member was, there were plans to go back the next day and get my brother before we all took off to another state.





i was about 5 and remember all of this vividly
Most Child abductions are done by Family members, usually a non custodial divorced Parent

 

Storm

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Originally posted by: HOWITIS
If I may ask, what were the circumstances of your abduction?

lets just say a mentally ill family member came into my house (which was unlocked, now i still have a phobia of locked doors), took me to one of their friends house for about two days. i refused to eat or drink anything, which i later found out is common for traumatised children. just to hammer home the point of how far gone this family member was, there were plans to go back the next day and get my brother before we all took off to another state.


i was about 5 and remember all of this vividly


Im glad nothing worse came from it. You got guts for posting this.
 

tec699

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I can not imagine what she went through. Was she raped? tortured? made to eat poop?

who knows...
 

Grasshopper27

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Originally posted by: Storm
Dood you are getting too emotional, I don't want to even imagine how emotional you got on your other account while you were posting about 9/11.
I've been thinking about kids a lot recently, since Thumper and I have been talking about them...

I can't imagine how the Smart family must be feeling. How horrible, and now how wonderful this must be...

Grasshopper
 

tec699

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Originally posted by: cHeeZeFacTory
what was the motive again?

This perve wanted some hot young tail. He wanted to get his rocks off.

Why else would he rape her.



:Q
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Storm
Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Hurting a kid is, to me, just about the worst thing a person can do. People who do that should be executed by the most painful manner possible and then they can rot in hell for eternity for all I care.
Amen...

I've been listening to Elizabeth's aunt talking on MSNBC and I've been crying... It is just so heartbreaking and heartwarming... I can't imagine the emotions that they are feeling today!

I'm so glad she was found alive. Now put that scumbag into prison with a bunch of murderers. They do NOT like child molsters...

Hopper

You are too eager to jump to the conclusions. We do not know what else if anything he did to the girl. We do not know if in Utah the deathpenalty is a form of punishment for kidnapping.

Utah will not be trying this case. The Feds will have jurisdiction. Neither the feds nor Utah have a death penalty punishment for kidnapping... UNLESS the victim or someone else dies during the crime.
 

sean2002

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Originally posted by: tec699
I can not imagine what she went through. Was she raped? tortured? made to eat poop?

who knows...

She was found wearing a a hat and sun glasses, she ran away from home, of had the kidnapping setup
 
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Originally posted by: weezergirl
can someone keep us updated on the press conference, some of us are at work!

i just turned it off...they arent saying anything...yes its her...yes we are saying she was kidnapped...sorry we cant say anything about that...its a great day for Utah...etc...

 

Aceshigh

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I definitely believe there is more to this than meets the eye. It isn't like this girl is a 4 or 5 year old child. This was a 14 year old girl. There is no way you could kidnap a 14 year old and hold them this long without completely isolating them in a dark hole somewhere, tied and bound. 14-15 year olds are young adults, they have cognitive reasoning. If she were kidnapped it's a pretty safe bet she would not have been found out in the open like she was. It looks very much like she was willingly in his company.
 
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