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Greenman

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The polls have shown basically no change after his ‘vindication’. Probably just natural variation.
I wouldn't have expected a big swing. The folks that like trump are happy and the folks that don't like him are unhappy. Pretty much describes the last two years.
 

UberNeuman

Lifer
Nov 4, 1999
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Some people dislike the dead kids at the border jail and some people like the dead kids at the border jail. Some people dislike Nazis, Racists, Homophobes, and Misogynists and some people like Nazis, Racists, Homophobes, and Misogynists.



Who knew!?!
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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The polls have shown basically no change after his ‘vindication’. Probably just natural variation.

The Faithful will remain un-moved & un-reachable. Fortunately there aren't enough of them to carry Trump in 2020, maybe not even that far.
 

brandonbull

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That's fine....

remember it wasn't too long ago that Romney was Hawkish toward Russia and President Obama suggested Romney had an 80's view toward Russia.
As such Russia preferred the Democratic Candidate.

Hillary was more hawkish on Russia than Trump was and because of that Russia preferred that Trump won in 2016.

Putin is a person who goes around ordering murders/assassinations (allegedly). He is however rational in the CIA world view sense of how they evaluate foreign governments. So it's fairly logical that he would prefer a President who says the least hawkish things about Russia.

some may call this whataboutism it's not it'a just context... every major power has and probably will continue to interfere in other countries politics in ways both subtle and painfully blatant....

https://ccisf.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/201612201405.pdf scans of the Time July 16, 1996 issue detailing how Yeltsin accepted help from U.S. advisors to win an election. Obviously that benefited us.
and if Mueller's report came back with a conclusion that Russia and Trump conspired to win Trump 2016 we'd know where Putin got the idea....


My suggestion is to secure our elections as Mike Figuerra suggested in the video I linked (I guess you didn't watch it... I'd recommend it)... going to paper ballots and eliminating electronic voting machines which caused a bit of a stir in the 2004 election. Tulsi Gabbard introduced such a bill and where is it now?
If one is worried about election interference then why not support measures that would in some way mitigate those concerns like Gabbard's bill would have it taken up and passed.

Isn't it odd that given the concern about the another nation interfering with our elections no real measures to help secure our elections were championed by the ones who thought collusion would be proven without a doubt? If that is one's concern then introduce measures that would mitigate foreign interference in our elections...

Or maybe they did and I just didn't really notice.


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That's silly because the policies of the Democrats would allow Russia to control access to several different types of energy sources. Drill baby, fracking, and clean coal make uranium and oil less valuable. Plus, Obama and his administration were push overs for Russia, Iran, China, and NK.
 

brandonbull

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Some people dislike the dead kids at the border jail and some people like the dead kids at the border jail. Some people dislike Nazis, Racists, Homophobes, and Misogynists and some people like Nazis, Racists, Homophobes, and Misogynists.

View attachment 4764

Who knew!?!

So why do Democrats support dead border kids, racists, homophobes and misogynists?
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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So why do Democrats support dead border kids, racists, homophobes and misogynists?

Dont forget they also support hoax crimes!

Chicago police are organizing a protest against the prosecutor who dropped the charges and famed democract Jesse Jackson comming to her aid.
 

Jhhnn

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Dont forget they also support hoax crimes!

Chicago police are organizing a protest against the prosecutor who dropped the charges and famed democract Jesse Jackson comming to her aid.

Gee.. There's a whole thread for that. In this thread it's just the usual desperate attempt at duh-version. You already know that, I'm sure.
 
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