Apple OS X vs Vista

[Rottie]

Yesterday I was chatting with my long distance friend via webcam he gave up his Dell m600 laptop to new Apple MacPro (I think) laptop he fell in love so much he loves how OS X has to offer than Windows XP lacks. I was starting to think that Vista is trying to catch up with OS X but I don't know what Vista does not have what OS X have? He mentioned about X have some kind of word dictionary built in you won't need a CD to look up for word. He also said that the GUI looks so great He collects pictures from his digital camera and installed on his laptop the digital pictures look great.
I asked him if I should give up my current system for Apple G5? He said Apple is not for me. In that case you might not know me I am deaf and my hobby is digital photographiy and not a big time artist.

 

[ProviaFan]

If you're comfortable with Windows, and your current PC hardware doesn't get in the way of what you need to do, then there's no reason to either upgrade to a newer PC or switch to a Mac. Photoshop, Bridge, and [soon] Lightroom run equally well on OS X and Windows, so your digital photography wouldn't be a reason to switch. I know some people who switched to Mac solely for Apple's Aperture (which the cross-platform Lightroom will soon compete with), but they had very particular needs. If you just need a photo processing application with decent "asset management," then Lightroom will do the job at no additional hardware cost.

Windows Vista is a good upgrade from Windows XP (though for you I'd recommend going upgrading to 2GB or more RAM). If you use Firefox for browsing and GAIM for instant messaging, you can have spell checking in each of those areas, which for me is all that really matters (for you it might not be enough, but consider if an OS-wide spell checker is really a good reason to switch platforms at a great expense).

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Rottie
Yesterday I was chatting with my long distance friend via webcam he gave up his Dell m600 laptop to new Apple MacPro (I think) laptop he fell in love so much he loves how OS X has to offer than Windows XP lacks. I was starting to think that Vista is trying to catch up with OS X but I don't know what Vista does not have what OS X have? He mentioned about X have some kind of word dictionary built in you won't need a CD to look up for word. He also said that the GUI looks so great He collects pictures from his digital camera and installed on his laptop the digital pictures look great.
I asked him if I should give up my current system for Apple G5? He said Apple is not for me. In that case you might not know me I am deaf and my hobby is digital photographiy and not a big time artist.

So he says OS X is better than Windows because it's got a system-wide spell check, the GUI looks great, and his digital pics look great on it?

1. As ProviaFan said, if you've got Firefox installed you'll have spell checking built-in. Also, the Office suite has spell check built-in as well (and it doesn't require a CDROM in it to work).

2. I think the Mac launcher bar is slick but IMO the rest of the GUI looks cartoonish and I don't like the interface (and yes, I've used a Mac before).

3. Unless your friend had a very crappy Windows system or it was configured wrong pictures are going to look the same on either one.

 

[Rottie]

Originally posted by: ProviaFan
If you're comfortable with Windows, and your current PC hardware doesn't get in the way of what you need to do, then there's no reason to either upgrade to a newer PC or switch to a Mac. Photoshop, Bridge, and [soon] Lightroom run equally well on OS X and Windows, so your digital photography wouldn't be a reason to switch. I know some people who switched to Mac solely for Apple's Aperture (which the cross-platform Lightroom will soon compete with), but they had very particular needs. If you just need a photo processing application with decent "asset management," then Lightroom will do the job at no additional hardware cost.

Windows Vista is a good upgrade from Windows XP (though for you I'd recommend going upgrading to 2GB or more RAM). If you use Firefox for browsing and GAIM for instant messaging, you can have spell checking in each of those areas, which for me is all that really matters (for you it might not be enough, but consider if an OS-wide spell checker is really a good reason to switch platforms at a great expense).

Right now I am comfortable with Windows. But if I want to switch to Vista I have to give up two devices Intel HaM data/fax/voice modem and ATI TV Wonder VE card because they are not support with Vista. Upgrade price plus modem and tv tuner add up more cost. It is not so fair.

 

[Rottie]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Rottie
Yesterday I was chatting with my long distance friend via webcam he gave up his Dell m600 laptop to new Apple MacPro (I think) laptop he fell in love so much he loves how OS X has to offer than Windows XP lacks. I was starting to think that Vista is trying to catch up with OS X but I don't know what Vista does not have what OS X have? He mentioned about X have some kind of word dictionary built in you won't need a CD to look up for word. He also said that the GUI looks so great He collects pictures from his digital camera and installed on his laptop the digital pictures look great.
I asked him if I should give up my current system for Apple G5? He said Apple is not for me. In that case you might not know me I am deaf and my hobby is digital photographiy and not a big time artist.

So he says OS X is better than Windows because it's got a system-wide spell check, the GUI looks great, and his digital pics look great on it?

1. As ProviaFan said, if you've got Firefox installed you'll have spell checking built-in. Also, the Office suite has spell check built-in as well (and it doesn't require a CDROM in it to work).

2. I think the Mac launcher bar is slick but IMO the rest of the GUI looks cartoonish and I don't like the interface (and yes, I've used a Mac before).

3. Unless your friend had a very crappy Windows system or it was configured wrong pictures are going to look the same on either one.

I am ok with new IE 7 and Office 2003. GUI looks cartoonish and but it makes you feel young at heart.

He is fair good with windows xp on his 1 and half year old Dell 600m laptop.

He has a long way to learn with OS X I can't help him anymore because I don't know much with X.

 

[Rottie]

I forgot to add...I have to replace 1GB memory to 2GB I check some top brand names cost more than 160.00 or more. My system requires dual channel.

No wonder Billy Gates have a better system than me. I am sure he is running Vista Ultimate with several Raptor HDs and 4GB memory and Quad core Intel cpu (possibly OC) and 8800 GPU card in SLI mode.

 

[masteraleph]

Originally posted by: Rottie
I forgot to add...I have to replace 1GB memory to 2GB I check some top brand names cost more than 160.00 or more. My system requires dual channel.

No wonder Billy Gates have a better system than me. I am sure he is running Vista Ultimate with several Raptor HDs and 4GB memory and Quad core Intel cpu (possibly OC) and 8800 GPU card in SLI mode.

You do realize that you can run perfectly well with 2 unmatched sticks, and that you don't need a kit, right?

 

[stevem326]

Originally posted by: Rottie
I forgot to add...I have to replace 1GB memory to 2GB I check some top brand names cost more than 160.00 or more. My system requires dual channel.

No wonder Billy Gates have a better system than me. I am sure he is running Vista Ultimate with several Raptor HDs and 4GB memory and Quad core Intel cpu (possibly OC) and 8800 GPU card in SLI mode.

I don't know if this is true or not but I've read on a few websites that he just has a high-end Dell system but it's not decked out with Raptors, dual SLI cards, or other stuff like that. I think one of the websites was CNET and the person was one of their technical writers who actually interviewed Gates and saw his PC.

Sorry I don't have any links but I know I've seen this at least two or three times on the web from reputable sites.

 

[Piuc2020]

There are a few things OSX has that Vista doesn't... but I've been using Mac OS X for 6 years, Windows XP for 4 years and Windows Vista for a few months and I can tell you, unless you need OSX for a specific reason (say you want Aperture for professional work or something) Windows Vista will be fine for you, OSX is a great system but I wouldn't buy a Mac unless I had a reason to, in my own personal case, I own 4 Macs but not because I really need to, I could do fine with Windows PCs instead, its just I am a big Mac fan and I can't deny I love OSX but I wouldn't recommend someone switching to Mac just for the heck of it.

 

[tatteredpotato]

Originally posted by: Rottie

Originally posted by: ProviaFan
If you're comfortable with Windows, and your current PC hardware doesn't get in the way of what you need to do, then there's no reason to either upgrade to a newer PC or switch to a Mac. Photoshop, Bridge, and [soon] Lightroom run equally well on OS X and Windows, so your digital photography wouldn't be a reason to switch. I know some people who switched to Mac solely for Apple's Aperture (which the cross-platform Lightroom will soon compete with), but they had very particular needs. If you just need a photo processing application with decent "asset management," then Lightroom will do the job at no additional hardware cost.

Windows Vista is a good upgrade from Windows XP (though for you I'd recommend going upgrading to 2GB or more RAM). If you use Firefox for browsing and GAIM for instant messaging, you can have spell checking in each of those areas, which for me is all that really matters (for you it might not be enough, but consider if an OS-wide spell checker is really a good reason to switch platforms at a great expense).

Right now I am comfortable with Windows. But if I want to switch to Vista I have to give up two devices Intel HaM data/fax/voice modem and ATI TV Wonder VE card because they are not support with Vista. Upgrade price plus modem and tv tuner add up more cost. It is not so fair.

You'll give up those plus more if you go to a mac. I'd consider a Macbook, but unless your really into photo/video/audio stuff the desktops aren't much use.

 

[Rottie]

Originally posted by: masteraleph

Originally posted by: Rottie
I forgot to add...I have to replace 1GB memory to 2GB I check some top brand names cost more than 160.00 or more. My system requires dual channel.

No wonder Billy Gates have a better system than me. I am sure he is running Vista Ultimate with several Raptor HDs and 4GB memory and Quad core Intel cpu (possibly OC) and 8800 GPU card in SLI mode.

You do realize that you can run perfectly well with 2 unmatched sticks, and that you don't need a kit, right?

No I did not know that. Unmatched sticks lose any performance?

 

[Arkaign]

Mac OS X vs Vista? It's like choosing between having your left or your right nut being fed to a meat grinder.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: Rottie

Originally posted by: masteraleph

Originally posted by: Rottie
I forgot to add...I have to replace 1GB memory to 2GB I check some top brand names cost more than 160.00 or more. My system requires dual channel.

No wonder Billy Gates have a better system than me. I am sure he is running Vista Ultimate with several Raptor HDs and 4GB memory and Quad core Intel cpu (possibly OC) and 8800 GPU card in SLI mode.

You do realize that you can run perfectly well with 2 unmatched sticks, and that you don't need a kit, right?

No I did not know that. Unmatched sticks lose any performance?

You could possibly lose a small amount of performance if they don't run in dual channel. Every time I've mixed sticks they've worked fine with each other, but I've heard that they sometimes don't. You wouldn't be losing much in any case. If you need the extra ram but don't want to spend big $ then just buy another stick. The performance increase you'll gain by adding more ram will far out weigh the slight performance drop that could occur if they don't run in dual channel.

Oh, btw I doubt your system requires dual channel. If it does then it works differently than any I have seen.

 

[Rottie]

I will look at the KV2 mobo manual book

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: Rottie

Originally posted by: masteraleph

Originally posted by: Rottie
I forgot to add...I have to replace 1GB memory to 2GB I check some top brand names cost more than 160.00 or more. My system requires dual channel.

No wonder Billy Gates have a better system than me. I am sure he is running Vista Ultimate with several Raptor HDs and 4GB memory and Quad core Intel cpu (possibly OC) and 8800 GPU card in SLI mode.

You do realize that you can run perfectly well with 2 unmatched sticks, and that you don't need a kit, right?

No I did not know that. Unmatched sticks lose any performance?

It will no longer run dual channel memory. This will cost a bit of memory performance, yes but for the system as a whole you'll need a benchmark to really tell the difference.

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Mac OS X vs Vista? It's like choosing between having your left or your right nut being fed to a meat grinder.

You know I haven't really heard from greylica or quinton since I noticed you posting. Your english isn't horrible which eliminates greylica.

Quinton is that you??

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: Smilin

Originally posted by: Rottie

Originally posted by: masteraleph

Originally posted by: Rottie
I forgot to add...I have to replace 1GB memory to 2GB I check some top brand names cost more than 160.00 or more. My system requires dual channel.

No wonder Billy Gates have a better system than me. I am sure he is running Vista Ultimate with several Raptor HDs and 4GB memory and Quad core Intel cpu (possibly OC) and 8800 GPU card in SLI mode.

You do realize that you can run perfectly well with 2 unmatched sticks, and that you don't need a kit, right?

No I did not know that. Unmatched sticks lose any performance?

It will no longer run dual channel memory. This will cost a bit of memory performance, yes but for the system as a whole you'll need a benchmark to really tell the difference.

That's not even always a given. Every time I've mixed sticks they've run dual channel, but they were always generally the same type. I've never mixed speeds or anything.

 

[dclive]

As long as all sticks can run at the spec set in the BIOS of the machine (or the SPD, if it's auto), then you'll get DC, and everything will work fine. Do people believe this "kit" mythology still? (Assuming same RAM size per channel, obviously.)

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: Smilin

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Mac OS X vs Vista? It's like choosing between having your left or your right nut being fed to a meat grinder.

You know I haven't really heard from greylica or quinton since I noticed you posting. Your english isn't horrible which eliminates greylica.

Quinton is that you??

Hehe, nope, I'm my own man Cheers :beer:

Btw, I have nothing against anyone that likes Vista or MacOS, so it's not personal. I just hate both of them somewhat equally.

 

[Solema]

I've used my wife's iBook plenty of times, and while OSX is a nice OS, I also just don't see enough of a compelling reason to switch.

See, the biggest issue is that "switching" doesn't just involve the OS. Switching involves buying an entirely new PC, and there simply isn't enough reason to do that. Now if Apple released OSX for ANY Intel hardware, that would be a different story.

 

[Rottie]

thx for all nice replies I will stay with windows because my A64 4800+ X2 is only 6 months old. Now my friend wants me to ask you about how good apple battery last longer with simple basic task or nothing? He said when he was not using laptop for about a hour or so the battery went down to 83% is that normal?

 

[Rottie]

bump

 

[lxskllr]

Hard to say. Batteries don't last forever. When they start getting old they'll drain faster, even when not in use.

 

[Rottie]

I see. my old laptop with new battery I unplug AC and the battery down to 90% in about like 15 minutes of use. I guess it might be same thing for my friend's Apple laptop.

 

[Cadaver]

Originally posted by: stevem326

Originally posted by: Rottie
I forgot to add...I have to replace 1GB memory to 2GB I check some top brand names cost more than 160.00 or more. My system requires dual channel.

No wonder Billy Gates have a better system than me. I am sure he is running Vista Ultimate with several Raptor HDs and 4GB memory and Quad core Intel cpu (possibly OC) and 8800 GPU card in SLI mode.

I don't know if this is true or not but I've read on a few websites that he just has a high-end Dell system but it's not decked out with Raptors, dual SLI cards, or other stuff like that. I think one of the websites was CNET and the person was one of their technical writers who actually interviewed Gates and saw his PC.

Sorry I don't have any links but I know I've seen this at least two or three times on the web from reputable sites.

Yeah. I've read the same thing. The biggest deal with his computer was that he had three 20" (4:3) displays on it. One he said he keeps Outlook up on at all times. The other two he uses for IE (I expect he's not a Firefox user), Word, Excel and other various applications.

He was interviewed (with pics) showing his office at Microsoft. Not nearly as fancy an office as one might expect for a man of his wealth. It did appear he was running Windows XP (this was about a year ago).