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aidanjm

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Originally posted by: The Godfather
Originally posted by: HamSupLo
well, relative to the amount of time/money you spend in school, arch doesn't pay that much. it was listed as one of the important, but low paid jobs in a CNN Money article.

Hmm Then what does pay good? I was thinking about looking into those guys that work in the stock market. I hear they get good pay.

it's only 3 to 5 years in school. that isn't that long, you know.

seeing as you are into 3D artwork, you must have a creative side. are you really going to be happy in stockbroking? at least in architecture you would be designing, creating cool stuff.
 

dym

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Originally posted by: The Godfather
Is Architecture a nice paying career? I'm thinking about attending college in Architecture, but i need a little more information. Any advice?

I heard a lot of architects make more money than some attorneys. I've seen some statistics that many senior architects make like $140 per hour.

Thanks for any help.

Yes!!! But it's not an easy job.
 

morkus64

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If you want to be an architect, be one, if not, don't, otherwise you'll find out that you made a bad choice a few years and several tens of thousands of dollars down the line. I work about 50-70 hours per week (depending on deadlines) on my scenic design degree, and what i design doesn't have to stand for more than a few months.

And drafting sucks.
 

illusion88

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Oct 2, 2001
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I'm told that structural geology is a really high payinf field. It pays high because of the demand, there are only so many places on the world to build, and people want the closest/safest spots first. You tell them wehre those are.
 
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Originally posted by: The Godfather
Originally posted by: HamSupLo
well, relative to the amount of time/money you spend in school, arch doesn't pay that much. it was listed as one of the important, but low paid jobs in a CNN Money article.

Hmm Then what does pay good? I was thinking about looking into those guys that work in the stock market. I hear they get good pay.

Yes, they kill themselves till 40, then retire. Most dideicate their lives to work and retire at 40 quite wealthy. Teh whole "living life" thing kinda is forgotten though.
 
Sep 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: The Godfather
Is Architecture a nice paying career? I'm thinking about attending college in Architecture, but i need a little more information. Any advice?

I heard a lot of architects make more money than some attorneys. I've seen some statistics that many senior architects make like $140 per hour.

Thanks for any help.

Most attorney's make jack sh!t as most do nothing more than real estate clsoings. A price compettive things. And public defenders also get paid nothing.

Very few lawyers make alot of money.

<== father in alw is a divorce attourney (laguh everyone) and he makes a good buck.

Bottom lione though, you need to own your own busienss to make alot of money in this world. Otherwise, your just another working stiff.

I'm a working stiff, but also have 3x as much going on outside of my life as a software engineer. It should be funny. I figure I can have a$1M house at 40 if I desire it. Most people in my field jsut want to climb the career ladder ... in other words ... dpeend on others for their success.

Be your own success. If you don't hae th edrive to work and make money, you are screwed already. Personal success is not gaurenteed unless you have a life plan. Plan your life and career, opnly then will you succeeed.

PS: Not doing spell check
 

The Godfather

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Thanks guys. Well, opening a business of my own has always been my desire, but that will be a long time from now. I want to know what kind of money i can make out of college.

I'm considering stock brokers.

Question: If i get a business degree, what line of work will i be in to get a good pay? I'm not very familiar with what jobs are offered with a business degree.
 

EmperorIQ

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Originally posted by: The Godfather
Originally posted by: DEMO24
skill, design, and previous work means a lot more than a piece of paper saying your good. Admitted the piece of paper is needed to a degree, mostly so that customers know the building will stand

Yes, see what i wonder is. Lets say i graduate, will i be able to find a nice paying job once i get out of college? I've seen people spend years after they come out of college looking for a job.

I want to go into a nice paying field and have insurance that i will be able to find jobs.

in that case, if you want a decent paying job, that is gauranteed to be stable, go engineering and work for defense, (raytheon, boeing, northrop, lockheed, etc.)

Edit:
Alright, i read some of your replies and seriously dude, what the heck are you thinking of? "What will get me the most money??" You shouldn't think of it that way. Find something you like and stick with it. If you're not passionate about it to begin with then you're going to suck at it anways.

Oh and also, i'm not too sure on this, but getting a business degree won't get you a job easily unless you have great social skills and your gpa is at least 3.8, then you'll get a gauranteed job. (At least that's what I've seen at my school, i'm not in business though.) This may be from bias, but go engineering.
 

The Godfather

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Originally posted by: EmperorIQ
Originally posted by: The Godfather
Originally posted by: DEMO24
skill, design, and previous work means a lot more than a piece of paper saying your good. Admitted the piece of paper is needed to a degree, mostly so that customers know the building will stand

Yes, see what i wonder is. Lets say i graduate, will i be able to find a nice paying job once i get out of college? I've seen people spend years after they come out of college looking for a job.

I want to go into a nice paying field and have insurance that i will be able to find jobs.

in that case, if you want a decent paying job, that is gauranteed to be stable, go engineering and work for defense, (raytheon, boeing, northrop, lockheed, etc.)

Edit:
Alright, i read some of your replies and seriously dude, what the heck are you thinking of? "What will get me the most money??" You shouldn't think of it that way. Find something you like and stick with it. If you're not passionate about it to begin with then you're going to suck at it anways.

You dont have to be passionate to be good at it. I'm good at business but i'm passionate about art. Well, business will get me cash while art will get me broke.
 

quentinterintino

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Originally posted by: The Godfather
Originally posted by: EmperorIQ
Originally posted by: The Godfather
Originally posted by: DEMO24
skill, design, and previous work means a lot more than a piece of paper saying your good. Admitted the piece of paper is needed to a degree, mostly so that customers know the building will stand

Yes, see what i wonder is. Lets say i graduate, will i be able to find a nice paying job once i get out of college? I've seen people spend years after they come out of college looking for a job.

I want to go into a nice paying field and have insurance that i will be able to find jobs.

in that case, if you want a decent paying job, that is gauranteed to be stable, go engineering and work for defense, (raytheon, boeing, northrop, lockheed, etc.)

Edit:
Alright, i read some of your replies and seriously dude, what the heck are you thinking of? "What will get me the most money??" You shouldn't think of it that way. Find something you like and stick with it. If you're not passionate about it to begin with then you're going to suck at it anways.

You dont have to be passionate to be good at it. I'm good at business but i'm passionate about art. Well, business will get me cash while art will get me broke.



wow, this is from the same guy that started the "What's wrong with the South thread".... how can someone be so daft
 

The Godfather

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Originally posted by: quentinterintino
Originally posted by: The Godfather
Originally posted by: EmperorIQ
Originally posted by: The Godfather
Originally posted by: DEMO24
skill, design, and previous work means a lot more than a piece of paper saying your good. Admitted the piece of paper is needed to a degree, mostly so that customers know the building will stand

Yes, see what i wonder is. Lets say i graduate, will i be able to find a nice paying job once i get out of college? I've seen people spend years after they come out of college looking for a job.

I want to go into a nice paying field and have insurance that i will be able to find jobs.

in that case, if you want a decent paying job, that is gauranteed to be stable, go engineering and work for defense, (raytheon, boeing, northrop, lockheed, etc.)

Edit:
Alright, i read some of your replies and seriously dude, what the heck are you thinking of? "What will get me the most money??" You shouldn't think of it that way. Find something you like and stick with it. If you're not passionate about it to begin with then you're going to suck at it anways.

You dont have to be passionate to be good at it. I'm good at business but i'm passionate about art. Well, business will get me cash while art will get me broke.



wow, this is from the same guy that started the "What's wrong with the South thread".... how can someone be so daft


Shhh.. this is important to me.
 

DaWhim

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my friend is in architecture, you know what they call it? "Architorture"

retention rate for the arcitecture major in my school:
beginning - 200ish students
50% of them will drop after the first year
usually 50ish students will remain to graduate.
 

kami333

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Dec 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: The Godfather
Originally posted by: HamSupLo
well, relative to the amount of time/money you spend in school, arch doesn't pay that much. it was listed as one of the important, but low paid jobs in a CNN Money article.

Hmm Then what does pay good? I was thinking about looking into those guys that work in the stock market. I hear they get good pay.

Half of my friends from high school are working for IBs now, it's a crazy life. 90+hrs/week. Most only plan on doing it for a few years before they move on to other things, or they will burn out.

Becoming an architect isn't easy either, I've worked with a couple and you'll be 30 before you are doing anything worthwhile, most likely 40 before you start seeing any real money. Plus unless you have the right aesthetics it won't matter how hard you work. Engineers (structural, etc) is less of a crap shoot but still its going to take hard work.
 

The Godfather

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Hm i'll look into a business degree and employment opportunities in that field. I guess architecture is off.
 

JDrake

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Dec 27, 2005
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Originally posted by: PhilsPhan
Originally posted by: joedrake
I heard they make decent... my brother is going to UPenn for architecture

I hope it is graduate school...if not Sucks to be Him...U Penn doesn't offer a degree in Architeture only liberal arts to undergrads. Penn Programs Compare this to a real architecture degree see Philadelphia University
Hmmmm.. I dunno, but tuition(sp?) was free for him, he just has to pay for room/board. And its udnergraduate, yes...
I'll ask him.
 

SaturnX

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Jul 16, 2000
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If you're interested in architecture, but not too artistic, there's always Civil Engineering, a friend of mine transferred from Arch to Civ. Eng. Sure it's more mathematical / theoretical but still if you're actually interested it could be another option.

--Mark
 

AmericanRebel

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Unless you really like architecture do NOT choose that as a carreer, it requires too much dedication to just "do it for the money". The same goes for engineers, while it may be easier to get a degree, to go anywhere you still have to like what you do and be good at it.
 

Descartes

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A colleague sitting right next to me is an ex-architect, and he tells me he was making ~$30k fresh out of school in the late 80s. Certainly the better architects are highly compensated, but it's like this in any industry. It looks like your average 9-5 architect makes barely a decent salary.
 

UglyCasanova

Lifer
Mar 25, 2001
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You are setting yourself up for failure and to absolutely hate your life. Pick something that you are interested in, not what pays. The money will come, and hopefully one day you will realize there is so much more than money. It's easy to talk yourself into something when blinded by the dollar signs, but once you are actually in it it's a whole different story. There is no point in making money if you are spending your time doing something that you don't enjoy. You can take all the money you make and invest it in bottles of antidepressants for when you realize your life is empty and in the end you have accomplished nothing.
 

SaturnX

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Originally posted by: AmericanRebel
Unless you really like architecture do NOT choose that as a carreer, it requires too much dedication to just "do it for the money". The same goes for engineers, while it may be easier to get a degree, to go anywhere you still have to like what you do and be good at it.

Very, very true. It definately takes a certain kind of person to do architecture, hell at our Architecture workshop, some of the students setup hammocks and they'd sleep there overnight, they were VERY hardcore.

Same with Engineering, namely, you don't go into Engineering for the money, you go into it because you have a passion for it. You'll often find out the people who went into for the money failing out after 1st/2nd year.

--Mark
 

BlueWeasel

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I'm a civil engineer who focused on structural design in college and did 4 years of structural design with architects. I'd say most of them don't make a killing right out of school, but working in a rural area in the South, salaries are relatively low.

I switched from doing structural engineering work to general civil design (sewer projects, subdivision development, earthwork, roads) and the difference in projects fees is huge. While my salary stayed about the same, the stress level went way down, and I think the potential for future personal earnings is greater than if I stayed in structural design.
 
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