Question Are all software/scheduling issues with e-cores fixed on Intel 12th to 14th Gen

[Wolverine2349]

I have heard so many say e-cores are good and help in games yet I also read reports that they cause stuttering in some games like Star Citizen Elden Ring and even Cyberpunk??

Well I will give a pass for Star Citizen as it is a bad buggy beta game, but 2 year old Elden Ring and what Cyberpunk which is supposed to be good with them? That gives me pause as well.

Are the issues popping up just FUD and anti e-core propaganda ( I will admit my own fears and skepticism and preference for more P cores has had me biased against e-cores a lot but I am willing to give them a chance now) and easy work arounds or are they real?

And can you you effectively use WIN10 with 12-14th Gen or is WIN11 actually required to not have those issues. Cause I hate WIN11.

I would prefer more than 8 P cores on a single ring/CCD, but none exists, so have thought of getting a 14700K or 14900K/138900K and disabling HT and just using e-cores for extra threads and seeing how it goes. Will things work smoother in games than just a good 8 core 16 thread CPU with HT on from either intel or AMD Zen4 and Raptor Cove or newer for today's most threaded games and tomorrow's as well? Or not really?

Yes AMD has Zen 5 coming and supposedly better IPC, but still the dual CCD severe latency issues and Intel is much better in that regard even with e-cores it seems as thread director 2 likely works very well and all e-cores and P cores are on the same ring bus unlike AMD's extra P cores.

 

[Markfw]

I have not heard that all the issues are fixed with Intel e-cores. Also, AMD for gaming is faster than ANY Intel chip(the X3D ones), and since your goal appears to be gaming, that would be the way to go.

 

[Wolverine2349]

I have not heard that all the issues are fixed with Intel e-cores. Also, AMD for gaming is faster than ANY Intel chip(the X3D ones), and since your goal appears to be gaming, that would be the way to go.

Thats true though are 8 cores still more thn enough for high end gaming for all games? Cause there are no CPUs with more than 8 cores of same type on single node. AMD has 8 core dual CCDs. Intel has those powerful P cores and less powerful e-0coires Gracemont though they are on same ring and thus no latency issue.

Cause I keep hearing games are getting more and more threaded and 8 cores could be short for a 4090 and some of the most heavy threaded CPU demanding games.

Yes there is the 7950X3D, but that is dual CCD and scheduling and latency issues crossing CCDs where n such issue on Intel though their e-cores are weaker but thread director is supposed to mask that?

 

[Markfw]

Thats true though are 8 cores still more thn enough for high end gaming for all games? Cause there are no CPUs with more than 8 cores of same type on single node. AMD has 8 core dual CCDs. Intel has those powerful P cores and less powerful e-0coires Gracemont though they are on same ring and thus no latency issue.

Cause I keep hearing games are getting more and more threaded and 8 cores could be short for a 4090 and some of the most heavy threaded CPU demanding games.

Yes there is the 7950X3D, but that is dual CCD and scheduling and latency issues crossing CCDs where n such issue on Intel though their e-cores are weaker but thread director is supposed to mask that?

Have you seen any chip beat either a 7800X3d or a 7950X3D ? in any game benchmark ( OK, maybe one)