Looking at an 02 land rover with a 96K on it. The thing has every gadget, bell, and whistle you could get in 02. Other than being loaded with extraneous crap waiting to break, are they reliable? I don't know the first thing about them.
They're widely regarded as one of the least reliable brands in the world.
And, since they're a premium brand, they're obscenely expensive to fix. Even the later LR3, which profited from Ford's involvement with slightly better reliability, isn't a good vehicle for someone who doesn't want to spend money on repairs.
Personally, the only Land Rover I'd be interested in is a Defender. The other models are very nice, but not really reliable.
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Bad news.
Are they made in the UK?
Looking at an 02 land rover with a 96K on it. The thing has every gadget, bell, and whistle you could get in 02. Other than being loaded with extraneous crap waiting to break, are they reliable? I don't know the first thing about them.
Looking at an 02 land rover with a 96K on it. The thing has every gadget, bell, and whistle you could get in 02. Other than being loaded with extraneous crap waiting to break, are they reliable? I don't know the first thing about them.
Man how did Land Rover fuck this up so much. Their vehicles are astonishing pieces of engineering, but they just don't work 70% of the time. What did they do wrong! So much potential! Someone should make a company that re-hauls Land Rovers and makes them reliable.
Oh and btw, if you are DIY kinda person and want a nice project vehicle, you can get a fully loaded early 2000s Discovery HSE for less than 5k with under 100k miles. These things are a bargain for a DIY person.
Only if you know what you're doing. Given that you're asking these sorts of questions, I'm thinking no.
At like $10K, there's probably a ton of value for a gearhead/DIY guy.
Land Rover went the way of the Hummer and the Jeep. The 1948-1967 was a workhorse and cemented the brand name. Zero features, just a simple, tough machine. You won't see a movie or a documentary about Africa without one in it. The legend grew, just like the WW2 jeep and the Desert storm Hummer.
Then the yuppies attacked. The hummer went from the ultimate off road machine to a crappy body mounted on a Chevy Blazer chassis. The jeep went to hell too. So did the Land Rover, turned it into a luxury car and lost all of the stuff that made it reliable and simple.
I can fix anything, I rebuilt my first engine 40 years ago. The issue is that I don't like doing it, at all. I still work on cars because I'm cheap, not because I enjoy it.
This was a deal that just popped up, a good looking ride in excellent condition that I could probably get a good deal on. But I'm sure as hell not going to buy something that requires me to spend my weekends covered with grease and grime. This was going to be a collage beater for my daughter, having read the opinions here, I'll do a bit more research, but I'll almost certainly pass on the deal.
Thanks for the info.
Land Rover went the way of the Hummer and the Jeep. The 1948-1967 was a workhorse and cemented the brand name. Zero features, just a simple, tough machine. You won't see a movie or a documentary about Africa without one in it. The legend grew, just like the WW2 jeep and the Desert storm Hummer.
Then the yuppies attacked. The hummer went from the ultimate off road machine to a crappy body mounted on a Chevy Blazer chassis. The jeep went to hell too. So did the Land Rover, turned it into a luxury car and lost all of the stuff that made it reliable and simple.
I can fix anything, I rebuilt my first engine 40 years ago. The issue is that I don't like doing it, at all. I still work on cars because I'm cheap, not because I enjoy it.
This was a deal that just popped up, a good looking ride in excellent condition that I could probably get a good deal on. But I'm sure as hell not going to buy something that requires me to spend my weekends covered with grease and grime. This was going to be a collage beater for my daughter, having read the opinions here, I'll do a bit more research, but I'll almost certainly pass on the deal.
Thanks for the info.
FYI, the brand new one that the US Top Gear had was had a leaky moonroof.
The Hummer H3 was an excellent offroad vehicle and the current Wrangler JK is the best Jeep yet.
The good news is that I returned the Jaguar this morning and picked up my perfectly repaired Range Rover, which now has a new horn set and horn fuses. The total cost for this repair was $229.74 ("a really nice microwave"), of which CarMax picked up all but my $50 deductible. For those of you eagerly keeping track, my $3,899 warranty has now covered $4,870.26 in repairs — and it's only 28 percent complete. And while the car's seven trips to the dealer in 20 months might seem like an inconvenience, I suspect my attitude to this whole thing is largely the same as yours: I can't wait to see what breaks next.
No Jeep has gone to hell, as you say. I agree with the rest of what you said, but the Jeep has always been solid, moreso than ever. Argue brand dilution all you want, every product with the Jeep badge on it is a worthy machine. Even the Patriot and Compass are decent vehicles for what they are. The Wrangler has been the same solid good vehicle for so long it has become horribly outdated due to a lack of molestation on the part of Jeep who have preserved it amazingly well over the years given the pressure to make changes in the industry. People love it for what it is and they've managed to not mess with it, maybe even to a fault.