Are people seriously Wiccan?

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I identify as neo-pagan on religious identity tests, and I have a nice pentacle on the wall, but I don't actually practice anything. When I was younger I went to a few meetings/study sessions.

This exact one pentacle, actually
The outer ring says "I am the beauty of the green earth and the white moon among the stars."

To address my question: Do you believe that there are actual supernatural pagan deities, or is it just a philosophical thing?

More of a philosophical thing, I suppose, I don't seem to have it in me to be devout
I tend to think of it more as a conceptualization, a frame of understanding.

This I can see -- I can't say that I agree with what I perceive to be the "wiccan" philosophy, but I can understand the logic behind it.

The core is essentially the Golden Rule in a patchouli-scented wrapper.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: ggnl
I've met a couple people that were into it. In a nut shell, they didn't believe in the religion literally, it was more of a spiritual way for them to exercise their philosophical beliefs.

Also it provides a sort of counter-culture to the Christian status quo (i.e. Anton LaVey's Satanists).

how are you comparing satanism and pagans.....really?

It's not an invalid comparison.

sure it is since paganism is essentially anything that falls outside of montheism(christianit, islam, judaism) of which satanist believe that lucifer is the one true god making it a monotheistic religion. Do you know anything about this or you just guessing?

:laugh:
You know nothing about LaVeyan Satanism, that's clear. Google it and get back to me.

 

[Ika]

Originally posted by: EGGO
Head on over to Bryn Mawr College. Yes, there are PLENTY.

Haha, I have a bunch of friends at Bryn Mawr. Maybe I'll inquire about it next time I visit...

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: ggnl
I've met a couple people that were into it. In a nut shell, they didn't believe in the religion literally, it was more of a spiritual way for them to exercise their philosophical beliefs.

Also it provides a sort of counter-culture to the Christian status quo (i.e. Anton LaVey's Satanists).

how are you comparing satanism and pagans.....really?

It's not an invalid comparison.

sure it is since paganism is essentially anything that falls outside of montheism(christianit, islam, judaism) of which satanist believe that lucifer is the one true god making it a monotheistic religion. Do you know anything about this or you just guessing?

:laugh:
You know nothing about LaVeyan Satanism, that's clear. Google it and get back to me.

I know what satanism is thanks.

 

[queenrobot]

I find it amusing that people often think of Wiccans as Satan worshipers. Growing up in the Bible Belt, you get a lot of that. My Wiccan father doesn't believe in God (in the Christian sense) so therefore, it would be kind of hard for him to believe in Satan.

 

[pontifex]

sorry, but how is this any less practical or whatever than the "big" religions. because more people believe in it makes it true?

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: ggnl
I've met a couple people that were into it. In a nut shell, they didn't believe in the religion literally, it was more of a spiritual way for them to exercise their philosophical beliefs.

Also it provides a sort of counter-culture to the Christian status quo (i.e. Anton LaVey's Satanists).

how are you comparing satanism and pagans.....really?

It's not an invalid comparison.

sure it is since paganism is essentially anything that falls outside of montheism(christianit, islam, judaism) of which satanist believe that lucifer is the one true god making it a monotheistic religion. Do you know anything about this or you just guessing?

:laugh:
You know nothing about LaVeyan Satanism, that's clear. Google it and get back to me.

I know what satanism is thanks.

You don't know what LaVeyan Satanism is, and that's specifically what ggnl was comparing. You're thinking of TV/movie "satanism", which does not exist in any organized form that I'm aware of.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

So people who believe in the catholic or Jewish invisible man in the sky are somehow more reasonable than people who believe in the pagan invisible man in the sky? Nope, not getting your logic.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
So people who believe in the catholic or Jewish invisible man in the sky are somehow more reasonable than people who believe in the pagan invisible man in the sky? Nope, not getting your logic.

Not really, but I can understand how they believe such things for other reasons.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog


You don't know what LaVeyan Satanism is, and that's specifically what ggnl was comparing. You're thinking of TV/movie "satanism", which does not exist in any organized form that I'm aware of.

Devil worshipping and satanism exist outside of tv and movies I'm sorry to inform you of that and it has been around since the beginning.

Tell me what or why a Laveyan is different

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

How are the pagan religions any more or less ridiculous than christianity?

 

[So]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
How are the pagan religions any more or less ridiculous than christianity?

check two posts up.

 

[Drako]

I know a group of people who consider themselves Druids. I'm not really sure what the differentiation between Druidry and Wicca, but if you mention Wicca to these guys they get pissed off .

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Drako
I know a group of people who consider themselves Druids. I'm not really sure what the differentiation between Druidry and Wicca, but if you mention Wicca to these guys they get pissed off .

just another form of paganism probably with more authenticity than your run of the mill wiccan believer.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: nakedfrog


You don't know what LaVeyan Satanism is, and that's specifically what ggnl was comparing. You're thinking of TV/movie "satanism", which does not exist in any organized form that I'm aware of.

Devil worshipping and satanism exist outside of tv and movies I'm sorry to inform you of that and it has been around since the beginning.

Tell me what or why a Laveyan is different

Okay, Mister Intellectually-Lazy. LaVeyan Satanists do not believe in Satan, nor worship him. No God, either. They basically believe this life is all we've got, so live it up, and flip the bird to Christians.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
How are the pagan religions any more or less ridiculous than christianity?

check two posts up.

What are your "other reasons"?

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Drako
I know a group of people who consider themselves Druids. I'm not really sure what the differentiation between Druidry and Wicca, but if you mention Wicca to these guys they get pissed off .

Probably different books and robes

 

[So]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
How are the pagan religions any more or less ridiculous than christianity?

check two posts up.

What are your "other reasons"?

YGPM

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: nakedfrog


You don't know what LaVeyan Satanism is, and that's specifically what ggnl was comparing. You're thinking of TV/movie "satanism", which does not exist in any organized form that I'm aware of.

Devil worshipping and satanism exist outside of tv and movies I'm sorry to inform you of that and it has been around since the beginning.

Tell me what or why a Laveyan is different

Okay, Mister Intellectually-Lazy. LaVeyan Satanists do not believe in Satan, nor worship him. No God, either. They basically believe this life is all we've got, so live it up, and flip the bird to Christians.

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Wow.....ok

Truth and Honesty is a Christian Virtue. Satanists automatically have to hate and reject all christian virtues by nature....as you said "flip the bird to christians"

Therefore taking a confessed satanist at his word that he doesn't "worship satan" is absurd at best. Get it?

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
How are the pagan religions any more or less ridiculous than christianity?

check two posts up.

What are your "other reasons"?

Various reasons. Duh.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: nakedfrog


You don't know what LaVeyan Satanism is, and that's specifically what ggnl was comparing. You're thinking of TV/movie "satanism", which does not exist in any organized form that I'm aware of.

Devil worshipping and satanism exist outside of tv and movies I'm sorry to inform you of that and it has been around since the beginning.

Tell me what or why a Laveyan is different

Okay, Mister Intellectually-Lazy. LaVeyan Satanists do not believe in Satan, nor worship him. No God, either. They basically believe this life is all we've got, so live it up, and flip the bird to Christians.

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Wow.....ok

Truth and Honesty is a Christian Virtue. Satanists automatically have to hate and reject all christian virtues by nature....as you said "flip the bird to christians"

Therefore taking a confessed satanist at his word that he doesn't "worship satan" is absurd at best. Get it?

ROFL. Truth and honesty are not the exclusive domain of Christians. Did you seriously just imply that every Jew in the world is a pathological liar?

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: So


ROFL. Truth and honesty are not the exclusive domain of Christians. Did you seriously just imply that every Jew in the world is a pathological liar?

no we aren't even talking about jews go away.

 

[bobdole369]

Are people seriously Christian, or Buddhist, or Muslim, or Hindi, or Jewish? Seriously?? Really??!! People really think that God sent his son down and we fucking killed him, and that God still loves us? And his sons name is Jesus? Really?

And some people really think none of that happened and we are still waiting on God's son??!!
People really think that Mohammed was his name, not Jesus.
Or that there exists only one purpose - to float your corpse down the Ganges, and that you keep coming back to life.

Same question here. Wiccans are the same as any other group, I'm sure there are posers as well as true believers.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: So


ROFL. Truth and honesty are not the exclusive domain of Christians. Did you seriously just imply that every Jew in the world is a pathological liar?

no we aren't even talking about jews go away.

<taps sarcasm meter>

 

[bobdole369]

LOFL - "Truth and Honesty is a Christian Virtue. Satanists automatically have to hate and reject all christian virtues by nature....as you said "flip the bird to christians" "

Truth and Honesty are Satanic virtues, when and if a Satanist deems it beneficial to his cause and pursuit of pleasure. If it behooves him to hang out with Christians all day saving puppies and not drowning babies, then said "confessed satanist" will do just that.