Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
A satanist by definition is one who warships lucifer or the devil or satan. The devil is gods fallen angel and enemy who rejects everything that god and in this case christianity stands for. By default a follower of Lucifer, the devil or satan must also reject Christian virtues and Christ and god. This is not difficult logic to follow.
What possible benefit could there be to worshiping Satan?
Why would someone worship a deity who only wants them so they can torture their soul for eternity?
It IS difficult logic to follow.
I never said Satanist were smart did I?
But to expand satan promises powers and pleasures while on earth in exchange for the soul. Others are weak minded or have mental disorders so are easy prey for manipulation.
Who'd you hear from that Satan grants powers and pleasures? A satanist?
No its all a con don't you get it....I never said he GRANTS powers and pleasures I said he PROMISES. BUT HE LIES! don't you see? Its a con game to win more souls.
Originally posted by: bobdole369
Who told you that?
Nobody. Its a simple statistic. A majority of those who responded to a survey that indicated they were "satanist" also indicated they do not believe in any deity.
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: bobdole369
Who told you that?
Nobody. Its a simple statistic. A majority of those who responded to a survey that indicated they were "satanist" also indicated they do not believe in any deity.
Awesome......satanists have to lie because truth and honesty are christian virtues. We've been over this. :roll:
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: bobdole369
"A satanist by definition is one who warships lucifer or the devil or satan."
Absolutely false. Satanists typically do NOT worship any deity at all.
You are mistaken friend. Oh and NO I'm not a Satanist. I'm Buddhist if you must know.
Who told you that? People that don't worship any deity are FUCKING ATHEISTS!
And... now stay with me... if some of those atheists want to call themselves "Satanists" to rile people like you up (and reap the tax benefits associated with churches), are they now automatically Satan worshipers?
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
A satanist by definition is one who warships lucifer or the devil or satan. The devil is gods fallen angel and enemy who rejects everything that god and in this case christianity stands for. By default a follower of Lucifer, the devil or satan must also reject Christian virtues and Christ and god. This is not difficult logic to follow.
What possible benefit could there be to worshiping Satan?
Why would someone worship a deity who only wants them so they can torture their soul for eternity?
It IS difficult logic to follow.
I never said Satanist were smart did I?
But to expand satan promises powers and pleasures while on earth in exchange for the soul. Others are weak minded or have mental disorders so are easy prey for manipulation.
Who'd you hear from that Satan grants powers and pleasures? A satanist?
No its all a con don't you get it....I never said he GRANTS powers and pleasures I said he PROMISES. BUT HE LIES! don't you see? Its a con game to win more souls.
Who'd you hear he promises from?
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Its in the bible. Remember the snake?
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Again why are you taking the word of a confessed satanist? And where did I say anythign about satanic rituals or are you just making stuff up to make it appear I'm a crackpot. Are you a satanist is that why you are defending them and their cover story?
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Again why are you taking the word of a confessed satanist? And where did I say anythign about satanic rituals or are you just making stuff up to make it appear I'm a crackpot. Are you a satanist is that why you are defending them and their cover story?
Since you seem to be to much of an idiot I'll put everything destrekor in plain english for your simple mind.
LaVey's Satanism is an [/b]ATHEIST[/b] group that somehow got labeled as satanists.
Now will you kindly shut the fuck up, or do we have to futher pwn you?
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
I never said Satanist were smart did I?
But to expand satan promises powers and pleasures while on earth in exchange for the soul. Others are weak minded or have mental disorders so are easy prey for manipulation.
Who'd you hear from that Satan grants powers and pleasures? A satanist?
No its all a con don't you get it....I never said he GRANTS powers and pleasures I said he PROMISES. BUT HE LIES! don't you see? Its a con game to win more souls.
Who'd you hear he promises from?
Its in the bible. Remember the snake?
Originally posted by: bobdole369
I'll agree to disagree and leave it at that. Go live in your small-minded crap filled god-loving world. I'll go see Buddha when I'm done with it all.
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Now will you kindly shut the fuck up, or do we have to futher pwn you?
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
I never said Satanist were smart did I?
But to expand satan promises powers and pleasures while on earth in exchange for the soul. Others are weak minded or have mental disorders so are easy prey for manipulation.
Who'd you hear from that Satan grants powers and pleasures? A satanist?
No its all a con don't you get it....I never said he GRANTS powers and pleasures I said he PROMISES. BUT HE LIES! don't you see? Its a con game to win more souls.
Who'd you hear he promises from?
Its in the bible. Remember the snake?
But how do you know specifically that's the Satanists' deal with Satan?
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: bobdole369
"A satanist by definition is one who warships lucifer or the devil or satan."
Absolutely false. Satanists typically do NOT worship any deity at all.
You are mistaken friend. Oh and NO I'm not a Satanist. I'm Buddhist if you must know.
Who told you that? People that don't worship any deity are FUCKING ATHEISTS!
And... now stay with me... if some of those atheists want to call themselves "Satanists" to rile people like you up (and reap the tax benefits associated with churches), are they now automatically Satan worshipers?
So your telling me they Do everything a satanist does EXCEPT warship satan and i'm supposed to buy that? riiiiiiiiiight. If it looks like shit and smells like shit its shit dude.
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Again why are you taking the word of a confessed satanist? And where did I say anythign about satanic rituals or are you just making stuff up to make it appear I'm a crackpot. Are you a satanist is that why you are defending them and their cover story?
Since you seem to be to much of an idiot I'll put everything destrekor in plain english for your simple mind.
LaVey's Satanism is an [/b]ATHEIST[/b] group that somehow got labeled as satanists.
Now will you kindly shut the fuck up, or do we have to futher pwn you?
well know if its an atheist group then its still not paganism so therefore the orginal argument I made is correct. Thanks.
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
So your telling me they Do everything a satanist does EXCEPT warship satan and i'm supposed to buy that? riiiiiiiiiight. If it looks like shit and smells like shit its shit dude.
No, that's not what I'm telling you at all, that's what you're telling me
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Again why are you taking the word of a confessed satanist? And where did I say anythign about satanic rituals or are you just making stuff up to make it appear I'm a crackpot. Are you a satanist is that why you are defending them and their cover story?
Since you seem to be to much of an idiot I'll put everything destrekor in plain english for your simple mind.
LaVey's Satanism is an [/b]ATHEIST[/b] group that somehow got labeled as satanists.
Now will you kindly shut the fuck up, or do we have to futher pwn you?
well know if its an atheist group then its still not paganism so therefore the orginal argument I made is correct. Thanks.
WTF was your original argument? All I see is a bunch of nonsense about how LaVey's Satanists worship a satan.
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
I never said Satanist were smart did I?
But to expand satan promises powers and pleasures while on earth in exchange for the soul. Others are weak minded or have mental disorders so are easy prey for manipulation.
Who'd you hear from that Satan grants powers and pleasures? A satanist?
No its all a con don't you get it....I never said he GRANTS powers and pleasures I said he PROMISES. BUT HE LIES! don't you see? Its a con game to win more souls.
Who'd you hear he promises from?
Its in the bible. Remember the snake?
But how do you know specifically that's the Satanists' deal with Satan?
Thats how the word is defined in our language. Now if they changed the definition then ok I could be wrong but what your asking is akin to how do we know that an apple eater really eats apples?
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
I never said Satanist were smart did I?
But to expand satan promises powers and pleasures while on earth in exchange for the soul. Others are weak minded or have mental disorders so are easy prey for manipulation.
Who'd you hear from that Satan grants powers and pleasures? A satanist?
No its all a con don't you get it....I never said he GRANTS powers and pleasures I said he PROMISES. BUT HE LIES! don't you see? Its a con game to win more souls.
Who'd you hear he promises from?
Its in the bible. Remember the snake?
But how do you know specifically that's the Satanists' deal with Satan?
Thats how the word is defined in our language. Now if they changed the definition then ok I could be wrong but what your asking is akin to how do we know that an apple eater really eats apples?
Who defined it? Some guy who had deep experience with actual Satanism, or just some schmuck that decided Satanism was what he thought it was.
Because if it's someone who had deep experience with actual Satanism, we can't trust a word he says anyway according to you.
But if it's some guy who made the definition up, then he would only be making assumptions about what Satanists actually do, with no real knowledge of Satanism and Satanists, and we shouldn't listen to him anyway.
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
I never said Satanist were smart did I?
But to expand satan promises powers and pleasures while on earth in exchange for the soul. Others are weak minded or have mental disorders so are easy prey for manipulation.
Who'd you hear from that Satan grants powers and pleasures? A satanist?
No its all a con don't you get it....I never said he GRANTS powers and pleasures I said he PROMISES. BUT HE LIES! don't you see? Its a con game to win more souls.
Who'd you hear he promises from?
Its in the bible. Remember the snake?
But how do you know specifically that's the Satanists' deal with Satan?
Thats how the word is defined in our language. Now if they changed the definition then ok I could be wrong but what your asking is akin to how do we know that an apple eater really eats apples?
Who defined it? Some guy who had deep experience with actual Satanism, or just some schmuck that decided Satanism was what he thought it was.
Because if it's someone who had deep experience with actual Satanism, we can't trust a word he says anyway according to you.
But if it's some guy who made the definition up, then he would only be making assumptions about what Satanists actually do, with no real knowledge of Satanism and Satanists, and we shouldn't listen to him anyway.
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
I never said Satanist were smart did I?
But to expand satan promises powers and pleasures while on earth in exchange for the soul. Others are weak minded or have mental disorders so are easy prey for manipulation.
Who'd you hear from that Satan grants powers and pleasures? A satanist?
No its all a con don't you get it....I never said he GRANTS powers and pleasures I said he PROMISES. BUT HE LIES! don't you see? Its a con game to win more souls.
Who'd you hear he promises from?
Its in the bible. Remember the snake?
But how do you know specifically that's the Satanists' deal with Satan?
Thats how the word is defined in our language. Now if they changed the definition then ok I could be wrong but what your asking is akin to how do we know that an apple eater really eats apples?
Who defined it? Some guy who had deep experience with actual Satanism, or just some schmuck that decided Satanism was what he thought it was.
Because if it's someone who had deep experience with actual Satanism, we can't trust a word he says anyway according to you.
But if it's some guy who made the definition up, then he would only be making assumptions about what Satanists actually do, with no real knowledge of Satanism and Satanists, and we shouldn't listen to him anyway.
But we know what satanists due. We know what devil worshipping is. We know the symbolism and rituals. This is in history books for hundreds of years so I mean....I can see what your getting at if this wasn't documented well and was something as abstract and imaginary as you are implying but unfortunately its very real.
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Again why are you taking the word of a confessed satanist? And where did I say anythign about satanic rituals or are you just making stuff up to make it appear I'm a crackpot. Are you a satanist is that why you are defending them and their cover story?
Since you seem to be to much of an idiot I'll put everything destrekor in plain english for your simple mind.
LaVey's Satanism is an [/b]ATHEIST[/b] group that somehow got labeled as satanists.
Now will you kindly shut the fuck up, or do we have to futher pwn you?
well know if its an atheist group then its still not paganism so therefore the orginal argument I made is correct. Thanks.
WTF was your original argument? All I see is a bunch of nonsense about how LaVey's Satanists worship a satan.
Go all teh way back to the beginning........he was comparing pagans to lavey stanism.
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
I never said Satanist were smart did I?
But to expand satan promises powers and pleasures while on earth in exchange for the soul. Others are weak minded or have mental disorders so are easy prey for manipulation.
Who'd you hear from that Satan grants powers and pleasures? A satanist?
No its all a con don't you get it....I never said he GRANTS powers and pleasures I said he PROMISES. BUT HE LIES! don't you see? Its a con game to win more souls.
Who'd you hear he promises from?
Its in the bible. Remember the snake?
But how do you know specifically that's the Satanists' deal with Satan?
Thats how the word is defined in our language. Now if they changed the definition then ok I could be wrong but what your asking is akin to how do we know that an apple eater really eats apples?
Who defined it? Some guy who had deep experience with actual Satanism, or just some schmuck that decided Satanism was what he thought it was.
Because if it's someone who had deep experience with actual Satanism, we can't trust a word he says anyway according to you.
But if it's some guy who made the definition up, then he would only be making assumptions about what Satanists actually do, with no real knowledge of Satanism and Satanists, and we shouldn't listen to him anyway.
But we know what satanists due. We know what devil worshipping is. We know the symbolism and rituals. This is in history books for hundreds of years so I mean....I can see what your getting at if this wasn't documented well and was something as abstract and imaginary as you are implying but unfortunately its very real.
Originally posted by: BigJ
But if people are observing Satanists, and Satanists lie, then how the hell do we know they're not faking the performances put on that people observe and document?
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Again why are you taking the word of a confessed satanist? And where did I say anythign about satanic rituals or are you just making stuff up to make it appear I'm a crackpot. Are you a satanist is that why you are defending them and their cover story?
Since you seem to be to much of an idiot I'll put everything destrekor in plain english for your simple mind.
LaVey's Satanism is an [/b]ATHEIST[/b] group that somehow got labeled as satanists.
Now will you kindly shut the fuck up, or do we have to futher pwn you?
well know if its an atheist group then its still not paganism so therefore the orginal argument I made is correct. Thanks.
WTF was your original argument? All I see is a bunch of nonsense about how LaVey's Satanists worship a satan.
Go all teh way back to the beginning........he was comparing pagans to lavey stanism.
And it is a valid comparison for what he was saying, The LaVey's Satanists are a cult movement that acts as a christian counter culture (perhaps that is how they got labeled satanists to begin with). Some neo-pagans groups are similar.