Arkham Knight

[Fingolfin269]

You guys who are returning and then buying the console version need to stop. That's just reinforcing the bad behavior.

With that said... I've only recently returned to PC gaming after recently building my first rig in years. I was warned that this is basically what PC gaming has become but didn't realize it was this bad. The good news is I have a nice backlog of PC games I still need to play so thankfully get to avoid being a beta tester, at least for awhile.

 

[Anomaly1964]

So are you guys returning the game, waiting for a patch, or what?

 

[Fire&Blood]

Man, what a complete disaster! :biggrin:

 

[sze5003]

You guys who are returning and then buying the console version need to stop. That's just reinforcing the bad behavior.

With that said... I've only recently returned to PC gaming after recently building my first rig in years. I was warned that this is basically what PC gaming has become but didn't realize it was this bad. The good news is I have a nice backlog of PC games I still need to play so thankfully get to avoid being a beta tester, at least for awhile.

Why? They are still getting the money and they are working on fixing the PC version. If someone wants to play it now the console is the most stable. I don't want to upgrade to 16gb just yet and buying a new gpu has now been moved to wait status but I do want to play the game. I don't feel like I'm missing out, looks like all the others I have played.

 

[Anomaly1964]

Why? They are still getting the money and they are working on fixing the PC version. If someone wants to play it now the console is the most stable. I don't want to upgrade to 16gb just yet and buying a new gpu has now been moved to wait status but I do want to play the game. I don't feel like I'm missing out, looks like all the others I have played.

I think even PC gamers say this game plays better with a controller...right?

 

[AMD64Blondie]

Waiting on a patch myself.

(I have the Steam version,which I bought at GreenManGaming.com since they had it for $35.99 US).

Seems wild that Warner Brothers Games had to completely stop selling the game,while they work to fix the issues it's having.

 

[sze5003]

I think even PC gamers say this game plays better with a controller...right?

Most of them do anyway, at least third person games I have played.

 

[Anomaly1964]

Waiting on a patch myself.

(I have the Steam version,which I bought at GreenManGaming.com since they had it for $35.99 US).

Seems wild that Warner Brothers Games had to completely stop selling the game,while they work to fix the issues it's having.

Same here...

 

[ChairShot]

Well,

games runs almost perfect on my machine (in sig). Only did the Nvidia driver updates which got trid of the horrendous lag. Since then, no problems.

 

[TeknoBug]

Huh, can't remember the last time I've seen something like this done.

SimCity 2013 and another game last fall I forget which one it was.

 

[AdamK47]

Huh, can't remember the last time I've seen something like this done.

That... is... awesome!

That will send a message to developers to not pull a stunt like this again.

 

[Dahak]

Waiting on a patch myself.

(I have the Steam version,which I bought at GreenManGaming.com since they had it for $35.99 US).

Seems wild that Warner Brothers Games had to completely stop selling the game,while they work to fix the issues it's having.

Same here as well, got it at greenmangaming, which they will not allow the refund/return until the patch is out.

Although not sure if its a good or bad thing, what if the patch does not fix everything and it still has major issues ... what then

This has been by far the worst release for myself personally. even as bad as the AC:unity was, i had not had experienced as much of that when it was out as i am with AK

 

[gorcorps]

You guys who are returning and then buying the console version need to stop. That's just reinforcing the bad behavior.

What? If anything it shows that the PC gamers will not accept these broken games any longer. Now that we have the ability to get refunded on digital games it's more important to get it right. Some devs may take that to mean it's not worth making a PC version... so be it. Their port would most likely be trash anyway if they're that worried about it.

 

[Dahak]

This has got me thinking, how the hell had this major of a screwup get through not 1 but 3 rounds of QA?

There is the porter, ironworks games(?),
Then Rocksteady, if anything they should have caught it at some point, unless they where totally out of the loop for it
Then WB Games, most likely they wanted to get this out so they probably did not care

Also as the totalbiscuit video that was posted, how the ********ng hell do they screw up the U3 engine so bad today, its like the engine that most devs should be familiar with by now

 

[CPA]

I think even PC gamers say this game plays better with a controller...right?

Same here, except with Deluxe version. Will take GMG's refund offer, however, if the first patch doesn't make things significantly better.

 

[thehotsung8701A]

This is my biggest concern moving forward with most games being console port. I don't want to be treated as a second class citizen.

 

[mmntech]

That... is... awesome!

That will send a message to developers to not pull a stunt like this again.

Having worked closely with software development teams in the past, it's hard to place the blame squarely on the developers. They're usually subject to hard deadlines set by the publisher.

If the game is not done when the deadline rolls around, the publisher then has two choices: delay the game or release it as is.

Delaying the game threatens to derail the marketing hype train. By the time it actually gets pushed out, reception is lukewarm. So many opt for pushing it out the door with little to no proper QA testing. This is because games make most of their revenue in the first few weeks after launch. It's pretty easy to pull this off with established IPs because people gravitate to familiar brands. Especially the hordes of clueless gamers who don't follow the news.

Developers screw themselves by overpromising. Which again is largely due to industry pressure to make bigger games each year. The bigger the game, the longer it takes, the higher the risk of not meeting its deadline. I think lot of the budget today gets eaten up for art assets, leaving little for proper coding and QA.

It's always been an issue to some extent. Especially on the PC platform. Though consoles haven't proven immune. Largely due to Microsoft and Sony removing patch size restrictions.

I'd be curious to see though how many refund requests Steam has processed for Arkham Knight. I suspect it's making a difference in this case.

 

[cmdrdredd]

You guys who are returning and then buying the console version need to stop. That's just reinforcing the bad behavior.

With that said... I've only recently returned to PC gaming after recently building my first rig in years. I was warned that this is basically what PC gaming has become but didn't realize it was this bad. The good news is I have a nice backlog of PC games I still need to play so thankfully get to avoid being a beta tester, at least for awhile.

No the game is good but they messed up the PC port. I still want the game. What it says is we want these types of games but not broken versions.

 

[TechBoyJK]

I got a free code when I bought my 970. Going to wait a few weeks and then spin it up. Many people with similar configs as mine are saying it runs fine. I'm excited to play it, but I have a few titles I can work on to give it some time.

 

[darckhart]

Let's face it, pc gamers are going to get the shaft any time the game wasn't specifically geared to pc from the start. And this particular game was going to have issues: exclusive versions specific to different retailers, straight up telling us more of the game releases thru season pass, patches and DLCs. There's gaps all over the place. And with teams that are fragmented working on their own little parts across 3 platforms, it's no wonder this isn't polished. As a pc gamer, I've simply learned to not buy these games until 3-5 months down the line when the product is where it ought to have been at launch. And what's the harm to WB now? They already made the cash grab. Smart move on their part.

 

[Fingolfin269]

No the game is good but they messed up the PC port. I still want the game. What it says is we want these types of games but not broken versions.

It's just my opinion. If you prefer to play on PC then that's probably what you bought first. Having to go through the hassle of screwing with it, returning it, and then just turning around and dropping cash on the console version doesn't really hurt them at all for making a shitty port.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

It's just my opinion. If you prefer to play on PC then that's probably what you bought first. Having to go through the hassle of screwing with it, returning it, and then just turning around and dropping cash on the console version doesn't really hurt them at all for making a shitty port.

WB / RockSteady don't necessarily deserve to be hurt by this. After all, the game runs like a champ on PS4 (not sure about Xbone, but I haven't seen complaints). Iron Galaxy, the people responsible for the atrocious PC port, deserve to be hurt financially. If people get refunds on the PC version and buy the PS4 version, it doesn't affect WB, sure, but it hurts their numbers on PC sales and hopefully convinces them to go with a different company next time they're porting a game to PC.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

Sources are saying we might not get a PC-release until August/September.

 

[Fingolfin269]

WB / RockSteady don't necessarily deserve to be hurt by this. After all, the game runs like a champ on PS4 (not sure about Xbone, but I haven't seen complaints). Iron Galaxy, the people responsible for the atrocious PC port, deserve to be hurt financially. If people get refunds on the PC version and buy the PS4 version, it doesn't affect WB, sure, but it hurts their numbers on PC sales and hopefully convinces them to go with a different company next time they're porting a game to PC.

On one hand I agree but on the other they are the ones who made the decision to give this responsibility to a 3rd party. As far as I'm concerned everything rolls back up to the top so if this shitty port is traced back to their business decision to outsource the work then that's still on them. Any time you outsource that is a risk that always comes back on the parent company. Maybe going forward they will either stop being cheap or just cut ties with the PC market altogether.

 

[CPA]

Sources are saying we might not get a PC-release until August/September.

Sources or rumors? I'm going with rumors based on wording in yesterday's apology from WB.