Assassin's Creed Unity thread

[tential]

I love how people tell you how good the game is like its their opinion, too. IMO Unity has great gameplay, One of the best third person graphics out and yes it does perform terribly. Worse than watch dogs.

Not sure why people seem to confuse gameplay with graphics performance in this thread.

Just because the graphics performance isn't up to par doesn't mean the actual game isn't good itself.

I am VERY annoyed about the graphics performance of the game, but once that's fixed, I may actually play it.

I've read so many posts in this thread defending this game's graphics performance in which the poster references the gameplay and how fun the game is. Dark Souls was "fun" too (I didn't think so but whatever), and had issues with its PC Port.

 

[Erenhardt]

There apparently was a patch that fixed Nvidia performance according to Erenhardt's new GPU performance charts on AC Unity that is posted on post #141.

not a patch... It was a release date review (we have releases later than the rest of the world)

Not sure why people seem to confuse gameplay with graphics performance in this thread.

Just because the graphics performance isn't up to par doesn't mean the actual game isn't good itself.

I am VERY annoyed about the graphics performance of the game, but once that's fixed, I may actually play it.

I've read so many posts in this thread defending this game's graphics performance in which the poster references the gameplay and how fun the game is. Dark Souls was "fun" too (I didn't think so but whatever), and had issues with its PC Port.

From what I gather the gameplay is worst than in Black flag by far. Its push counter-to-win kind of bs. AI is dumb, and its more of the same AC...

 

[AdamK47]

People, please stop pre-ordering. Please stop. Stop it! The publisher is playing thier money grab game on you while you wait for the actual game to be developed. Turn your head away as they dangle their chintzy pre-order DLC in front of you. Don't fall for the trap. Being able to say "I have my copy pre-ordered!" on word of a new installment of any franchise only serves to identify the fool. Buy the game after it has been released. This is 2014. You won't be getting it any slower compared to pre-ordering.

 

[Fire&Blood]

People, please stop pre-ordering. Please stop. Stop it! The publisher is playing thier money grab game on you while you wait for the actual game to be developed. Turn your head away as they dangle their chintzy pre-order DLC in front of you. Don't fall for the trap. Being able to say "I have my copy pre-ordered!" on word of a new installment of any franchise only serves to identify the fool. Buy the game after it has been released. This is 2014. You won't be getting it any slower compared to pre-ordering.

I've been making this argument everywhere, I don't even know how many times I linked to this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm4JCFONptk

 

[cbrunny]

From what I gather the gameplay is worst than in Black flag by far. Its push counter-to-win kind of bs. AI is dumb, and its more of the same AC...

You haven't played? Your opinion on gameplay is useless then. Please keep it to yourself.

Gameplay is vastly improved over Black Flag.

 

[Erenhardt]

You haven't played? Your opinion on gameplay is useless then. Please keep it to yourself.

Gameplay is vastly improved over Black Flag.

You like it? Its boring, bugged and game successfully de-attaches you from game world even without crashes, and obivous bugs.

Your opinion is not more useful than mine.

 

[cbrunny]

You like it? Its boring, bugged and game successfully de-attaches you from game world even without crashes, and obivous bugs.

Your opinion is not more useful than mine.

So you have played it then? If so, please say so. Then your opinion matters. If you haven't, I don't care at all what your thoughts on gameplay are.

I made an earlier post with some thoughts about the gameplay. Generally I'm impressed with the improvements and pleased with the gameplay. It's what I expected it to be with some refinements and improvements where I wasn't expecting them too.

 

[chimaxi83]

So you have played it then? If so, please say so. Then your opinion matters. If you haven't, I don't care at all what your thoughts on gameplay are.

I made an earlier post with some thoughts about the gameplay. Generally I'm impressed with the improvements and pleased with the gameplay. It's what I expected it to be with some refinements and improvements where I wasn't expecting them too.

So is this thread only about game play, and only people who are playing this turd can comment? Do you run this thread? This forum? Do you only ever make comments and observations on things that you personally experience. Your opinion is just as valid as anyone else's. Jeez the defending is just plain silly. Stfu already



Oops, I've just realized the OP set rules for this thread, that criticism of the game and or Ubisoft isn't allowed.

This game is due out in only three days, so here's a thread for those that are interested in the game or have already pre-ordered it or thinking about buying it. Ubisoft haters can GTFO. If you just want to bash Ubisoft, go elsewhere..

 

[cbrunny]

So is this thread only about game play, and only people who are playing this turd can comment? Do you run this thread? This forum? Do you only ever make comments and observations on things that you personally experience. Your opinion is just as valid as anyone else's. Jeez the defending is just plain silly. Stfu already

If you're going to comment on the quality of gameplay, it should be expected that you have actually played the game. That is more than rational. This thread can be about whatever you want. Makes no difference to me.

If you're able to comment on gameplay for a game you've never played, I'm allowed to tell you that your comment makes no sense, has no relevance, is irrational, and you shouldn't comment until you actually play the game.

 

[Blanky]

If you're going to comment on the quality of gameplay, it should be expected that you have actually played the game. That is more than rational. This thread can be about whatever you want. Makes no difference to me.

If you're able to comment on gameplay for a game you've never played, I'm allowed to tell you that your comment makes no sense, has no relevance, is irrational, and you shouldn't comment until you actually play the game.

A person cannot become wiser through consumption of others' opinions? You're trying to give an opinion yourself now, which is intended to change his view on the game. In this vein, he has read the opinions of others who are also trying to influence his view. In essence you're arguing others' opinions, which he has formed his from, are worthless and he should only listen to yours.

 

[cbrunny]

A person cannot become wiser through consumption of others' opinions? You're trying to give an opinion yourself now, which is intended to change his view on the game. In this vein, he has read the opinions of others who are also trying to influence his view. In essence you're arguing others' opinions, which he has formed his from, are worthless and he should only listen to yours.

I'm not trying to influence his opinion in any way. I'm merely stating that his opinion and the way in which it is framed - having not experienced the exact thing he is presenting his opinion on as fact - is not useful.

Further, "becoming wiser through consumption of others' opinions" is more than rational. It is the reason we have reviews. It is also the reason why presenting a personal opinion about gameplay for a game that has not been played is not rational, especially when framed to make others believe the game has been played.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

A person cannot become wiser through consumption of others' opinions? You're trying to give an opinion yourself now, which is intended to change his view on the game. In this vein, he has read the opinions of others who are also trying to influence his view. In essence you're arguing others' opinions, which he has formed his from, are worthless and he should only listen to yours.

Not quite. There's a reason hearsay isn't allowed in court. He isn't sharing his opinion of the gameplay as he experienced it, because he hasn't experienced it; he's sharing someone else's opinion. And someone else's opinion, informed though it may be, doesn't do much to drive a conversation forward here because we can't get further details about their experience. So, yeah, everyone's entitled to their opinion, but when it comes to gameplay, we tend to lend more weight to people who have actually played something versus someone who just read about it and is repeating what they heard.

 

[Blanky]

Not quite. There's a reason hearsay isn't allowed in court. He isn't sharing his opinion of the gameplay as he experienced it, because he hasn't experienced it; he's sharing someone else's opinion. And someone else's opinion, informed though it may be, doesn't do much to drive a conversation forward here because we can't get further details about their experience. So, yeah, everyone's entitled to their opinion, but when it comes to gameplay, we tend to lend more weight to people who have actually played something versus someone who just read about it and is repeating what they heard.

I guess my only response here is we're not in court :biggrin: Just because something's not admissible in court doesn't mean it isn't real or happened; it just means it's not admissible in court. First hand experience is generally better though agreed.

 

[tential]

not a patch... It was a release date review (we have releases later than the rest of the world)

Then your review is probably one that had the patch with it... either way the comment stands that the review is clearly not on the same patch the other reviews are.

Those benchmarks are the most "recent" ones we have so far.

 

[cbrunny]

1.2 patch is released apparently. 800mb or so, fairly hefty. Saw somewhere that it doesn't actually fix the performance issues though. Perhaps that will come in AMD driver fixes...

 

[JeffMD]

Ive spent a few hours with it on my new 970 and it has been doing surprisingly well. I havn't hit a truly impressive crowd count yet and my AA is more aggressive then I should use (fx 6300 cpu) so i'm still tweaking things. Popup is kind of bad though, the 5000 man armies come at such a considerable cost that they turn into featureless drones not so far away.

 

[RussianSensation]

http://www.gamepur.com/news/16952-w...ps-issues-ps4-and-pc-discovered-put-your.html

As it turns out, UPlay may be responsible for some of the performance issues. Some users report doubling of FPS when playing the game in offline mode on the PC. Also, Ubisoft is working on Patch 2 to resolve some performance issues. Sad that gamers paid $50-60 to be beta testers for Ubisoft's incompetence.

 

[RussianSensation]

DP

 

[tential]

http://www.gamepur.com/news/16952-w...ps-issues-ps4-and-pc-discovered-put-your.html

As it turns out, UPlay may be responsible for some of the performance issues. Some users report doubling of FPS when playing the game in offline mode on the PC. Also, Ubisoft is working on Patch 2 to resolve some performance issues. Sad that gamers paid $50-60 to be beta testers for Ubisoft's incompetence.

What about Steam Users?

 

[BSim500]

People, please stop pre-ordering. Please stop. Stop it! The publisher is playing thier money grab game on you while you wait for the actual game to be developed. Turn your head away as they dangle their chintzy pre-order DLC in front of you. Don't fall for the trap. Being able to say "I have my copy pre-ordered!" on word of a new installment of any franchise only serves to identify the fool. Buy the game after it has been released. This is 2014. You won't be getting it any slower compared to pre-ordering.

^ I cannot vote this post up enough. The two main advantages of pre-ordering (get it on release day without delays in the post and fear of boxed copies selling out at local store) are no longer relevant with digital distribution. The third ("pre-order bonuses") is nothing more than a trashy bribe to encourage uninformed "before review" purchases that only seems to be 'needed' on half-broken AAA games (usually the same ones that 'require' a "review embargo"). At worst, it involves overpowered "booster packs" which are glorified "pay to win" gimmicks.

As it turns out, UPlay may be responsible for some of the performance issues. Some users report doubling of FPS when playing the game in offline mode on the PC.

LOL. So Ubisoft says their biggest problem is piracy. Meanwhile, the pirates continue to play with less stutter and server-outage immunity vs paying customers. "Business as usual"...

 

[Fire&Blood]

If you do the armor side mission, to get to the final switch, you'll have to do a bit of timed jumping, it's like a stealthy QTE. One of the jumps has you leaping to the opposite wall. Remember to hold shift and mash space (on default layout) to get it done. I just tabbed out to share this and so that I don't break stuff...

 

[Carfax83]

http://www.gamepur.com/news/16952-w...ps-issues-ps4-and-pc-discovered-put-your.html

As it turns out, UPlay may be responsible for some of the performance issues. Some users report doubling of FPS when playing the game in offline mode on the PC. Also, Ubisoft is working on Patch 2 to resolve some performance issues. Sad that gamers paid $50-60 to be beta testers for Ubisoft's incompetence.

That's a load of nonsense. UPlay has zero impact on frame rate, and playing offline has no impact either.

Eurogamer did a comparison before and after and found no difference..

 

[BSim500]

That's a load of nonsense. UPlay has zero impact on frame rate, and playing offline has no impact either.

Some people are finding the opposite though, especially with the "chat" feature:-
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.ph...mprovement?p=10339329&viewfull=1#post10339329
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/773128-New-Uplay-uses-a-lot-of-cpu-sometimes-Forums
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.ph...-of-the-CPU-while-in-game-in-Far-Cry-3-Forums

 

[futurefields]

Ive spent a few hours with it on my new 970 and it has been doing surprisingly well. I havn't hit a truly impressive crowd count yet and my AA is more aggressive then I should use (fx 6300 cpu) so i'm still tweaking things. Popup is kind of bad though, the 5000 man armies come at such a considerable cost that they turn into featureless drones not so far away.

does the CPU affect AA?

 

[RussianSensation]

That's a load of nonsense. UPlay has zero impact on frame rate, and playing offline has no impact either.

Eurogamer did a comparison before and after and found no difference..

Did you actually read the article I linked? You are saying all those gamers just made it up that playing in offline mode improces their performance? I guess it's similar to you denying all reports of 970/980 SLI users having issues because you don't...

You know if it wasn't for the honest media reviewed and gamer feedback, and if we all listened to you, Unity sounds like a great game to spend $50 on:

"Assassin’s Creed Unity buckles in other ways, making for the least stable, worst-performing major release I’ve played this year. Its moment-to-moment performance varies between acceptable and abysmal”
Source: Polygon

This game is in a much worse state than the already hated WD.

I seriously have to ask:

1) Do you work in the gaming industry?
2) Are you directly or indirectly affiliated with NV, Ubisoft or any other game developer/publisher?
3) Do you own NV or Ubisoft stock?

You have defended this game to no end despite 99.9% of the world seeing how awful this title was on release and still is now. Unity is such a monumental reputation failure / lesson for Ubisoft that this game single-handily is changing Ubisoft's PR and business/development/testing practices (hopefully for the better).