Asus 680 "TOP" Or 7970 OC

_Hayabusa_

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I've read so many conflicting reviews and opinions regarding which card is faster now the 680 TOP Edition is clocked @ 1200mhz and the 7970 clocked @ 1000mhz or 1100mhz which card is the best performer when overclocked with stability for 24/7 use at full potential

Sorry for this question lol my money is waiting on a 7970 or gtx 680
 

UNhooked

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I would get the 7970. I currently have mine set at 1100 and memory at 1575 without any voltage increase.

Also if you want physx, I would pick up a used GTS 450 or a new GTX 650.

That's my plan anyways
 

Elfear

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A 680@1200 and a 7970@1050 will be pretty dang close performance wise. I'd get whichever is cheaper. 7970 has more options for overclocking (voltage control) so that's a bonus as well.
 

cmdrdredd

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I think the 7970 is better overall for a single card config unless you need cuda or physx.
 

RussianSensation

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You can now find a 1Ghz Sapphire Dual-X 7970 for $388 with Sleeping Dogs and the Asus DCUII goes for $518 on Newegg. Alternatively, the Gigabyte Windforce 3x 7970 is $428. Obviously from price/performance, HD7970 wins right away.

But I think you should revise your decision between HD7970 and GTX670 Asus DCUII for $380. GTX680 is terrible value against that Asus 670 card since it costs $128 more for 7-8% more performance than the Asus DCUII 670.

Can you please list your system specifications, monitor resolution and the types of games you like to play? Do you care for PhysX? Do you care for MSAA? Do you care for texture mods? That would help to see if GTX680 is worth nearly $100 more over the 7970.

If you want to go all out and spend $520+ on a high-end single-GPU despite this being the tail end of a generation, might as well wait a couple weeks as Asus should launch the Matrix 7970 and that card could very well overclock to 1250mhz.
 
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The_Golden_Man

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ASUS GTX 680 TOP is pretty pointless in my opinion. There are two reasons for this: 1: It has a oversized 3-slot cooler (Really not needed for Kepler. You cannot up the voltage anyway. Also, they use the same DC II cooler they did for ASUS GTX 580, only that on the 680 not all the heatpipes are in contact with the core because of the smaller Kepler core. Making the cooler even more pointless.

2: ASUS GTX 670 DC II TOP is almost as fast as the 680 (In some cases almost the same speed due to the Kepler Boost) and has the 2-slot variant, instead of the useless 3-slot variant of the DC II, which is very silent and good for that card.
 

RussianSensation

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Besides 1Ghz Sapphire HD7970 and Asus DCUII 670 making Asus DCUII 680 horrendously overpriced, even if one wanted top performing 680, the Asus 680 still fails. At that point might as well get the 1267mhz Galaxy SOC White Edition.

As far as pure performance goes, above 1165mhz HD7970 beats Asus GTX680 TOP OC (1212mhz GPU / 1290mhz GPU Boosted).

Of course it's impossible to guarantee that any HD7970 will hit 1165mhz and that any GTX680 TOP will hit 1290mhz, but it gives an idea that above 1165mhz, 7970 will become a faster card and without voltage control I can't see 680 hitting more than 1300mhz. It also comes down to the games. If the OP plays a lot of games that favour NV architecture, 670/680 are better but those gaps are closing fast. With Catalyst 12.8, 680 and 7970 1050mhz are trading blows in Crysis 2 and BF3, the 2 games where NV had a huge lead in March.
 
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_Hayabusa_

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Ok my system specs are as follows

I7 3820
Asus p9x79 pro
Corsair h1000
2x 60gbb intel 520 raid0
16gb corsair vengeance
27" asus monitor 1920x1200

Right now I'm playing BF3, Crysis 2, sleeping dogs, skyrim, witcher 2.

I need a card that is futures proof
 

_Hayabusa_

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You can now find a 1Ghz Sapphire Dual-X 7970 for $388 with Sleeping Dogs and the Asus DCUII goes for $518 on Newegg. Alternatively, the Gigabyte Windforce 3x 7970 is $428. Obviously from price/performance, HD7970 wins right away.

But I think you should revise your decision between HD7970 and GTX670 Asus DCUII for $380. GTX680 is terrible value against that Asus 670 card since it costs $128 more for 7-8% more performance than the Asus DCUII 670.

Can you please list your system specifications, monitor resolution and the types of games you like to play? Do you care for PhysX? Do you care for MSAA? Do you care for texture mods? That would help to see if GTX680 is worth nearly $100 more over the 7970.

If you want to go all out and spend $520+ on a high-end single-GPU despite this being the tail end of a generation, might as well wait a couple weeks as Asus should launch the Matrix 7970 and that card could very well overclock to 1250mhz.

Do you have an idea how much the 7970 matrix version would cost
 

The_Golden_Man

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Please remember that AMD cards does not support PhysX without a secondary Nvidia card and a driver hack.

I know many people think PhysX is hyped, but some people like to have it.

Most big titles supporting PhysX like Batman AC and Borderlands 2 does not play well with PhysX on high if you don't have a second card to handle PhysX anyway so...

I have GTX 670 SLI and can run PhysX on high in both Batman AC and Borderlands 2.

But as I've said, with the addition of a secondary Nvidia brand card you can run PhysX with AMD card as primary via a software hack.
 

RussianSensation

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Do you have an idea how much the 7970 matrix version would cost

In the games you listed, HD7970 1100mhz will be faster in 3 out of 5 of them (excluding BF3 where NV will be slightly faster and Crysis 2 goes to either camp depending on the review). If you want to future proof, you are better off getting a GTX670 for $380 and getting a 2nd one later. Buying a $500+ GPU to future-proof is almost never a good strategy as within 3 years it's pretty slow. I also personally think that we'll see a significant growth in PC graphics in 2014 and 2015 as next generation consoles are released. I don't think GTX680/7970 will be able to play those games smoothly.

Alternatively you could just buy a $380 670/7970 and sell either next year and get a next generation card than buying a $500 GPU and holding on to it for 4 years. I believe the Matrix will start at $490. The thing is you be spending $450-500 on a 10-months old HD7970 series. That doesn't sound that great when HD8000/GTX700 series is probably less than 6 months away.
 

_Hayabusa_

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So just want to confirm that a 7970hd at 1100-1200mhz would be better then an Gtx 680 at 1200-1300mhz @ 1920x1200
 
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